New HSV Backlash on TODAY SHOW

[Whitey-AMG]

Was watching the TODAY show on Channel 9 over breakfast this morning - segment with Neil Mitchell commentary.
Interesting to see this make the morning show agenda.....albeit in a negative way.

New Supercharged HSV GTS

Basically - backlash against the new performance HSV

• Waaaaay Too fast
• Pointless car for today's day and age
• 3-4 years down the track - will be priced squarely at young bogan Hoon affordability
• Do we really need / want these types of cars roaming our roads.

Sound familiar...echoes of the 70's super car scare campaign
How does that SKYHOOKS song go again...............
"I'm livin in the 70's"..........

[chevypower]

Only the elite are allowed to have power. So Ferraris are ok.

[Vesper Martini]

Mitchell has a point, have you noticed they way old Clubsports are driven, and they are not even that quick..

[XRtowcar]

Funny, Mercedes and BMW get no bad press for Turbo V8 or V10 powered cars but if its a Holden or Ford, than they are death machines.

[Road_Warrior]

Supercar scare V2.0 in 3, 2, 1...

[damo6]

a typical neil mitchell whinge, this fool will complain if his weetbix fall the wrong way into his bowl,

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by XRtowcar

Funny, Mercedes and BMW get no bad press for Turbo V8 or V10 powered cars but if its a Holden or Ford, than they are death machines.

Agreed, but the comments were most likely made because its an Australian made car & in only a few years will be affordable to young drivers.

[Brent]

Using Neil Mitchell's logic you'd immediately have to question the validity of every motorbike on today's roads outside of a Vespa. For far, far less than any HSV or FPV I can pop into a motorbike shop and come home with a 1,000cc missile.

[Resurrection]

Where are the tools in the media who criticised FPV in 2004 when the Typhoon was unveiled??? They are earily quiet.

[sico]

What a Nanna

[Streets]

dunno who Neil Mitchell is but lol @ him if those are his concerns

Originally Posted by ESP

• Waaaaay Too fast
• Pointless car for today's day and age
• 3-4 years down the track - will be priced squarely at young bogan Hoon affordability
• Do we really need / want these types of cars roaming our roads.

• it can only be driven at the speed limit of course, so unless the speed limit is "too fast", the car can't be
• there's a lot of pointless products on the market
• I don't think there are many "young bogan hoons" driving around in 2009 Typhoons or GTSs
• Yes

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http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/4...425-2igze.html

GEN F

[Black F6]

will be interesting to see once we see some rwkw figures from these cars, they probably wont be much different to the blown GT's just the badge says 100kw more

[Smoke Pursuit]

Who cares....


Cant wait to buy one second hand in 5 years time for 30 kay...

Kudos to HSV, anyone who thought they wouldn't do it was stupid.

[stazza]

Comment from that article

Holy cow! And with Walkinshaw able to get 480kW out of a 6.0 litre SS engine, you have to think they still have plenty up their sleeve. It certainly makes you wonder why Ford can only manage 335kW out of their supercharged V8. Even in terms of kw/litre it is no match for HSV.

See, this is the kind of uneducated douchebaggery we Ford drivers constantly face.

First thing this morning I log onto Facebook and some Dude has put that article on my timeline telling me to put that in ya pipe and smoke it.

[MattsDisturbed]

Has Neil Mitchell ever heard of a wonderful new invention called a track day? Where a racing track is opened to the public to drive their cars in any manner they want in a safe environment?
With this sort of outlook he must be either not into cars, or has been paid quite a lot of money to force his nanny state ideals on us.

[nb_351]

He forgets about all the Japanese hypo cars too, lots of p plates on evo loaders and wrx subarus not to mention skylines maybe he should just hop in the back of his chauffeur driven hybrid

[Polyal]

It just wouldnt (and shouldnt) happen in todays market, you could then argue that Australia is then not being made able to compete..then you have job losses etc...

Its like trying to compare athletes from different eras, sure they both have skills but the rules and regs, technology etc is all advanced... its close to impossible have apples vs apples.

[flappist]

Neil Mitchell is a shock jock just like Ray Hadley or Derryn Hinch.

His primary mission is to stir up dissent and keep himself in the spotlight.
If there is no reaction to his anti car blab he will go onto something else immediately.

If, on the other hand squillions of upset people go bezerk on the internet he will milk this for all he can get.

IGNORE EVERYTHING HE SAYS OR HE WILL JUST NEVER SHUT UP.

[RedHotGT]

So - let me get this straight:

HSV are going to do a limited run of an exclusive GTS-type car with the S/C V8 (430kw), and it's gonna be about $100k (though probably more like $120k).

The regular GTS will be available (at 340kw - just above the FPV GT) so really its pretty much even at the top of the range in power-for-money....

Um - what happened to the W427? That was like 375kw and in the $100k+ bracket.... Don't remember the 'go-slower' crowd screaming all that loudly when that one came out.

The 'power war' and the 'supercar scare' are going to come around full circle - as the media love getting a hold of this one - especially so they can run some of the file footage of VN's doing burnouts and bogans jumping around in the camera.... perfect for Today Tonight and ACA.

Must be a slow news day..........

[GQ_Smooth]

Originally Posted by RedHotGT

So - let me get this straight:

HSV are going to do a limited run of an exclusive GTS-type car with the S/C V8 (430kw), and it's gonna be about $100k (though probably more like $120k).

The regular GTS will be available (at 340kw - just above the FPV GT) so really its pretty much even at the top of the range in power-for-money....

Um - what happened to the W427? That was like 375kw and in the $100k+ bracket.... Don't remember the 'go-slower' crowd screaming all that loudly when that one came out.

The 'power war' and the 'supercar scare' are going to come around full circle - as the media love getting a hold of this one - especially so they can run some of the file footage of VN's doing burnouts and bogans jumping around in the camera.... perfect for Today Tonight and ACA.

Must be a slow news day..........

Love the VN footage, that guys must make a squillian on royalties, he's on every channel 2-3 times year for the past 10 years.

[jpd80]

And all the while the FPV GS and GT cars fly under the radar because they under-rate the engines..

HSV are on a hiding to nothing with this,

if they tell the truth about the real power of the engine, they will get hammered by the media,
if they understate the power like FPV does, the fans and buyers will be be upset and disappointed
because it's all about the Kw badge on the boot..

[tweeked]

For all we know HSV will rate the engine @ 350kw. They are just as clever as FPV, why poke the power bear? 350 is as good a number for them as 351 could be to FPV.
It is only the media reading up on what this motor makes in the States at the moment.

In fact I am more inclined to believe that 340 will be the SC engine, 5 up on the GT.

[jpd80]

They are not that clever, it's all about the maximum Kws going on the badge out back
HSV have a history of advertising the full power of the engine as part of bragging rights...

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by flappist

Neil Mitchell is a shock jock just like Ray Hadley or Derryn Hinch.

His primary mission is to stir up dissent and keep himself in the spotlight.
If there is no reaction to his anti car blab he will go onto something else immediately.

If, on the other hand squillions of upset people go bezerk on the internet he will milk this for all he can get.

IGNORE EVERYTHING HE SAYS OR HE WILL JUST NEVER SHUT UP.

As per your previous advice,
If people want to protest, send petitions to the show's sponsors, not to the shock jock.
The best way to silence a viper tongue is to cut the head off, boycotting sponsors products is the best way.

[Polyal]

As it stands they have the runs on the board, who are we to question how they go about it? Seems to work for them.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Polyal

As it stands they have the runs on the board, who are we to question how they go about it? Seems to work for them.

I have a feeling that HSV sales are hurting almost as badly as FPV, everyone is waiting for VF
Who can blame them with up to a 70 Kg weight reduction coming, that's a huge bonus.....

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by XRtowcar

Funny, Mercedes and BMW get no bad press for Turbo V8 or V10 powered cars but if its a Holden or Ford, than they are death machines.

Very true, but the Aussie performance sedans LOVE to brag about their power have stripes, scoops, massive spoilers, power figures plastered all over the car. Almost screams hoon (for want of a better word).

The euros by comparison are very conservative about it and Prius loving Joe Public probably has no idea what an M3, RS4 /RS6, C63/ E63 are capable of.

I've been waiting for the next super car scare, seems it's on its way. With the media fixation on Hoons it was only a matter of time.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Very true, but the Aussie performance sedans LOVE to brag about their power have stripes, scoops, massive spoilers, power figures plastered all over the car. Almost screams hoon (for want of a better word).

The euros by comparison are very conservative about it and Prius loving Joe Public probably has no idea what an M3, RS4 /RS6, C63/ E63 are capable of.

I've been waiting for the next super car scare, seems it's on its way. With the media fixation on Hoons it was only a matter of time.

In before the government lock then?

I would like to think we are better than that these days, I mean so many cars have big HP, what are they going to do..ban them aswell?

But then again their are some numbnuts making law these days...

[mr smith]

My first thought this morning was this sort of stuff will nail Ford and Holden shut. The average buying public and taxpayer are not interested in these cars and their association with bogan Australia.
Not a bright move from Holden when they have their hand out to the govt for survival. It would be better to have these cars fly under the radar for enthusiasts rather than shout from the roof tops.