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Thailand Specials
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
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Hey guys, probably not the right forum to ask this in, but a good friend of mine is interested in converting his 70s Valiant ute to a 5sp manual, people have told him Supra 5sp gearbox , but he said it probably doesn't need to be that strong (which isn't all that too strong in the first place), as its just a standard car with a 350 holley on it.
I mentioned T5 (Castlemaine rod shop sells kits), and T5s are easy to find because they were on Falcons/Commodore, but someone told him its not strong enough, but I doubt that? If it can stand up to an E series XR6 from the 90s, wouldn't it be able to stand up to a standard carby 6 from the 70s? He thinks he could get a Hilux 5sp to work, as he is assuming the Supra 5sp box and the Hilux box are the same but I really doubt that they are, they would have to be different gearboxes. If anyone here can help us with our predicament, that would be great, thanks much. |
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Regular Member
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: nz
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had a toyota celica 5 speed in my charger was a w55 gearbox i think from memory and ran a hilux clutch and had no probs i think 5th gear is the weakest link,just change down when passing
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Fixing Ford's **** ups
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: In a house
Posts: 4,759
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Supra 5 speed will handle the power output....I think they're rated to 400HP (or there abouts)
To do the change requires floor pan mods and I think the torsion bar area too.... Get your mate to join http://www.moparmarketforum.com/forum/index.php...He'll get all the necessary info he needs on the conversion
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A wheel alignment fixes everything, when it comes to front end issues. This includes any little noises. Please read the manual carefully, as the these manufacturers spent millions of dollars making sure it is perfect.....Now why are there so many problems with my car, when I follow the instructions to the letter?....Answer, majority rules round here Lock me up and throw away the key because I'm a hoon....I got caught doing 59 in a 60 zone |
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Thailand Specials
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
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Landau Tragic
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Sydney
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The valiants used pretty much the same 4 speed single rail as we do with our Fords. I'm guessing he can do the same as what we do and drill a couple of holes to line it up to the 4 speed bell housing, and that's it. Use the standard val clutch set up, and get the t5 yoke fitted to his driveshaft. Modified gearbox mount too i think, due to different length.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,633
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Checkout "www.moparmarketforum.com" .. a quick search reveals a plethora of information .. for example ..
http://www.moparmarketforum.com/foru...=supra#p301088 http://www.moparmarketforum.com/foru...53&hilit=supra If your mate is in central Vic then send him to Jeff @ Kyneton Auto Spares to discuss .. it is the home of Valiants! ![]() |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: On The Footplate.
Posts: 5,086
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A "standard" 265 2 barrel hemi will put out 205hp. Do a little work as I did to mine in the Charger I had when I was 18 (and still miss every damn day), and you are looking at 270 to 300hp easily with masses of torque. They were simply the best six cylinder ever made in those days. The Ford and Holden six cylinders couldn't come near it for power in standard form, and it took a hell of a lot of work to get up anywhere near a Hemi's output.
A Supra five speed (if you can still find one) will be fine, but yes, watch fifth gear if it has some work done. Dellow used to make all the kits for them. I've been out of the loop for quite a while now with Valiants so not sure who does them now. Hemi Performance in Victoria used to be the go-to guys for perfomance bits too. |
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SY TS AWD LPG TEZZA
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Perth
Posts: 2,383
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If Chrysler had kept going in Australia and had kept developing the I6 like Ford have, I wonder where it could have gone. Imagine a 265 with 4 valves per cylinder, twin overhead cams and VCT and EFI. The current Ford I6 would have to be (dare I say it) the best 6 cylinder in the world now, but my second favourite engine behind the Ford 6 would have to be the Chrysler Hemi 6's of Australia. They demoralised V8's of the day. ![]()
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1st car 75 XB Fairmont wagon 302C converted to 351C. 2nd car 82 ZK Fairlane 351C 4spd AOD LPG/Avgas 3rd car 97 EL Falcon police car 4L auto dual fuel 4th car 90 XF ute (work car) 5th car 06 SY TS AWD Territory Orbital LPi 6th car 95 XG ute 7th car 2014 SZ Territory TX Petrol Fords all my life. |
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Trev
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Was Perth, now country Vic
Posts: 8,017
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If you think a single carb one had torque, you should try one with Triple Webers. I remember when Brocky did that supercar comparison years ago in Motor I think it was. Said the E49 had the most torque of all and they had Phase III HO there etc, said it was 'like turning on a tap', he had never driven one before and couldn't believe the grunt.
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