Are Storm-damaged vehicles hitting the Auctions (Vic)

[dylancox]

Anyone been watching the auctions lately and can tell me if the storm/flood affected cars being sold off yet?

[kenz]

Yea Pickles in Brisbane have already had 2 auctions. They are doing it every 2 weeks. I think the next one is next weekend. Click on the damaged vehicles link on the website and there is a list with photos of them all. Apparently they have been selling for as little as $200

[dylancox]

What does it take to get them registered if there is no physical damage? The only thing I can think of is getting all fluids replaced and replacing any looms that have corroded.. the smell I can live with until I chase up the trim out of another wreck.

[Jim Goose]

If the cars are written off... good luck!

[dylancox]

Originally Posted by Jim Goose

If the cars are written off... good luck!

I am referring to a repairable-write off. If there is no physical damage, how do they inspect that the damage has been repaired?

[DRM ON]

Would depend on what state you are in as to getting them rerego'd

Last I heard as of some time last yr you could no longer re register any sort of write off be it repairable or not in nsw

[buggerlugs]

In Qld they still have to go thru Qld Inspection Sevices which costs $500.00. Once inspected you can then register them. Last week there were some good buys and some not so good buys at Manheim Fowles in Brisbane..............

[dylancox]

Originally Posted by buggerlugs

In Qld they still have to go thru Qld Inspection Sevices which costs $500.00. Once inspected you can then register them. Last week there were some good buys and some not so good buys at Manheim Fowles in Brisbane..............

What does the inspection look for? I wonder if they fail the car if they smell fish when opening the door

[Pedro]

The biggest problem with flood damaged cars is if the engine was running when it encountered a flood. I saw a late model Holden V8 ute go for $6k last week. When it was delivered to the workshop, we pulled the plugs and 7 and 8 both had water in them. A strip down will show if the rods are bent.

[rocket67]

I think you would need to be very wary about buying flood damaged cars.

Mechanical problems are certainly an issue, but Electrical components would be the main worry. Unless you know a lot about these Electronics it would be wise to stear clear of these cars.

We bought, repaired and re registered a lot of hail damaged cars last year, but would definately NOT touch flood damaged cars.

I believe that in NSW you can no longer Register Repaired Write Offs?

In SA, cars require 2 inspections at a cost of $269 for the first ID Inspection, then $221 for the second ( Roadworthy ) Inspection. The waiting list for an ID Inspection is currently about 3 months. Too hard - Will give write offs a big miss from now on.

Rocket.

[colin0933]

Originally Posted by rocket67

I think you would need to be very wary about buying flood damaged cars.

Mechanical problems are certainly an issue, but Electrical components would be the main worry. Unless you know a lot about these Electronics it would be wise to stear clear of these cars.

We bought, repaired and re registered a lot of hail damaged cars last year, but would definately NOT touch flood damaged cars.

I believe that in NSW you can no longer Register Repaired Write Offs?

In SA, cars require 2 inspections at a cost of $269 for the first ID Inspection, then $221 for the second ( Roadworthy ) Inspection. The waiting list for an ID Inspection is currently about 3 months. Too hard - Will give write offs a big miss from now on.

Rocket.

Hail damage vehicles & classics are exempt from the new legislation in NSW. I am not sure about storm damage though, but I would not touch them with a barge pole. Massive electrical issues & possible rust down the track in particular if there is any salt or silt in the water. I hav ealso heard that if a car is over 15 years ol;d then it is exempt from the new legislation but need to confirm this as I am curious where I stand with my XF.

[au adam]

As you are in Vic you will need VIV check(look at vic roads site)A simple hail danaged car is simple,do nothing.If panels are replaced you will need the vin number from the wreck it came from.All reciepts need to be kept too.
A viv check makes sure it was repaired(if needed)correctly and legally.
If its been flood damaged you need to really check where the water has gone.Im not sure if Pickles in vic try and get some of them going but i think they do.My friend runs their workshop so i could find out for you as i need to ask him a about a particular car myself.

[tezxr8man]

i know a lot of car yards from down south buy flood cars from up here, dad has taken a lot from here in townsville to all over the place including tassie.Mostly they replace the wiring and take all the interior out, half the cases they clean inside and the interior. Other times they replace the interior depends how badly damaged it is

[Kryton]

A VIV is actually Vehicle Identification Validation.
Not only is the quality of the repairs being looked at, they are also looking at where the parts were sourced and if the cars identity is what your claiming it to be - not rebirthed or repaired with stolen parts.

To get a flood damage car to pass a VIV, Vicroads will have a list of all parts that need to be repalced.
Last flood, it was a NEW ECU, certain engine sensors, a diagnostic report from the manufacturer and a few other items that had to be replaced - even if they werent damaged.
All of these parts had to be bought BRAND NEW from the manufacturer of the vehicle, with receipts, for it to pass.
Not a cheap excersize at all - not worth the time, money or effort of doing it.

Also, a vehicle that has been listed, is listed for LIFE.
Simply obtaining a VIV, RWC and Rego doesnt make the car 'clean' in any way shape or form.
By law now, when you go to sell the vehicle, you MUST tell every potential seller that it has been written off and that it has been repaired - even the Bill Of Sale has a check box for it now.
Failure to notify a potential owner is now a serious offense and the Fraud Squad will likely be knocking on your door.

So, unless you want a paddock basher or some cheap parts that are going to rust out quicker than others, dont waste your time or money with a flood damaged vehicle.

[JG65TE]

even hail damaged cars in vic need to be repaired, ie .. hail repaired in vic now afaik

[au adam]

Originally Posted by JG65TE

even hail damaged cars in vic need to be repaired, ie .. hail repaired in vic now afaik

Nup dont think so.Also depends on the ammount of damage,say if panels NEED to be replaced.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by colin0933

I hav ealso heard that if a car is over 15 years ol;d then it is exempt from the new legislation but need to confirm this as I am curious where I stand with my XF.

Have you tried here....http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registrati...s_1_oct_10.pdf

[RobVee]

purely by accident i found this out just recently while organising some collision repairs for my car. i asked the insurance guy assessor guy how busy its been with floods/storms/hail/etc and he said
that the guidelines that they had with the flood affected vehicle was if water entered the cabin of the vehicle it would be written off straight away in the instance of an insurance claim. becuase if water has entered the cabin the insurance company cannot and will not offer a guarantee on the repairs to the car becuase of the potential of damage to the electrical systems

[302 XC]

Isnt there varying states of written of ???
Up to sills,over sills ,up over doors or such ???
I certainly wouldnt touch a late model car thats had water up over the bonnet
It will be near scrap metal

[Kryton]

No, its either written off or its not.
Its a chance you take - the car may have wet carpet or it could have been fully submerged.

I mentioned before about the last flood vehicles needing new ECU's etc - that was actually for the fuel contamination that occurred last year - my mistake.
I still stand by what i said though - steer clear unless you want a paddock hak.

Just think about why they have been written off - if they could easily be repaired and be certain that everything would be fine in 5 years time, they wouldnt be written off in the first place.

[EFFalcon]

looking at the pickles website, next week

[jcxr]

Some of these cars would be a good cheap start for a dedicated drag car.

[LTDHO]

If water gets into the cabin or motor, then write off.

[The Yeti]

For driving I wouldnt look at a flood damaged write off, noting but trouble, its gets in to all the harnesses & Plugs, every where the bearings in things like steering columns, the bushes in the peddel pivots, the seat slides honustly they are nothing but trouble

if it wasnt running at the time it MIGHT be suitable as a doner car MIGHT, but other than that Steer well clear of them

[Bobman]

Originally Posted by au adam

As you are in Vic you will need VIV check(look at vic roads site)A simple hail danaged car is simple,do nothing.If panels are replaced you will need the vin number from the wreck it came from.All reciepts need to be kept too.

I bought a hail damaged BA in 2008 (before all the big storms). Got the dents repaired but then they rejected the VIV because of a small parking dent. The car had nudged someone's tow bar while parking I'm guessing.

VIV centres want a car to be in brand new condition, so in the end it's not worth it.

[au adam]

I did one a few years ago,went straight through a VIV with hail damage.
Friend of mine has just got a viv done on a VZ ute with hail damage,not repaired.

[stavros68]

How about if you just want the shell?? Would you have problems with it ?? Thinking about buying one.

[NudgE^SIKBRO]

Im considering one at the moment, but for parts only...

[Kryton]

Originally Posted by stavros68

How about if you just want the shell?? Would you have problems with it ?? Thinking about buying one.

The shell and chassis are still written off.
If you decide to use it for whatever and put it on the road, it will need a VIV.

[JG65TE]

viv changed in december didnt it ? . Of course you dont need a viv for 15+. They says viv n/a. But as for the rest , It says must be restored to manafacturers specs. All damage must be repaired. Will do more lookin into it ..