Economy of ba 4ltr v 5.4ltr.

[jlef5]

After some time I've decided on buying a ba falcon ute to replace my current Nissan patrol ute. I'm looking at spending about 10 to 15 grand on a ute. Will want tray back so I can make my own tool box/ fridge box and dog cage on it. Just after some rough ideas of the fuel economy from the 4ltr 6 with 4 speed auto compared to the 5.4ltr v8 with 4 auto. I will be doing about 50km a week city driving 50 a week highway to and from work. Plus an 900 km trip every 3 or 6 weeks. My old Ef I used to have around town was about 14ltr per hundred and about 10 ltr per hundred on the highway was a 5 ltr v8 with 4 speed auto. How big is the difference between the never 6 to the 8 on fuel.
Cheers

[Windsor342ci]

Hi there mate, I can confidently give feed back on the auto 4Lt as thats my Mrs car. Not the best thing in the world on fuel in town. Looking at around mid to high 13L to every 100kms but on the highway its something else. I bought it for her from QLD and drove it back down to Sydney and obviously a long long drive but I managed to get the thing down to 8.9L to every 100kms. Wasnt easy but I was proud of myself...

Depending how you drive aswel, it is not impossible for the thing to break into the 14s and even 15 something to every 100kms. Just got to be gentle...

In my experience aswel. I dont know how much this means to you, but stock for stock, there actually isnt a sensational amount of difference in performance between the 6 & 8 in the 4 spd Autos. I though this was just the ones I have driven but only a few weeks ago a beautiful Force 8 was beside us and at the lights gave it a little squirt and it didnt get away to far. And mind you there the 6 spd I think..... But if you not fussed about performance then go the 8 if anything, for the meer sound of it!

[glavas]

Originally Posted by ELIIXR8

Hi there mate, I can confidently give feed back on the auto 4Lt as thats my Mrs car. Not the best thing in the world on fuel in town. Looking at around mid to high 13L to every 100kms but on the highway its something else. I bought it for her from QLD and drove it back down to Sydney and obviously a long long drive but I managed to get the thing down to 8.9L to every 100kms. Wasnt easy but I was proud of myself...

Depending how you drive aswel, it is not impossible for the thing to break into the 14s and even 15 something to every 100kms. Just got to be gentle...

In my experience aswel. I dont know how much this means to you, but stock for stock, there actually isnt a sensational amount of difference in performance between the 6 & 8 in the 4 spd Autos. I though this was just the ones I have driven but only a few weeks ago a beautiful Force 8 was beside us and at the lights gave it a little squirt and it didnt get away to far. And mind you there the 6 spd I think..... But if you not fussed about performance then go the 8 if anything, for the meer sound of it!

after owning v8's all my life 14-15l per 100 km is good economy.

[Windsor342ci]

Originally Posted by glavas

after owning v8's all my life 14-15l per 100 km is good economy.

Im yet to Sus out how my XR8 goes...

[kennyboy]

was getting 13 litres per hundred average, 80% highway, 20% city on petrol, before getting gas fitted

[dylancox]

Originally Posted by jlef5

After some time I've decided on buying a ba falcon ute to replace my current Nissan patrol ute. I'm looking at spending about 10 to 15 grand on a ute. Will want tray back so I can make my own tool box/ fridge box and dog cage on it. Just after some rough ideas of the fuel economy from the 4ltr 6 with 4 speed auto compared to the 5.4ltr v8 with 4 auto. I will be doing about 50km a week city driving 50 a week highway to and from work. Plus an 900 km trip every 3 or 6 weeks. My old Ef I used to have around town was about 14ltr per hundred and about 10 ltr per hundred on the highway was a 5 ltr v8 with 4 speed auto. How big is the difference between the never 6 to the 8 on fuel.
Cheers

You old Ef used to do 14 around town and 10 on the highway? A BA XR6T will return those figures easily, and a SY Territory NA 6 returns around the same (in fact the highway figure will be lower in the BA N/A or Turbo). If you budget can allow, get a BF as they are a bit better on fuel, but not all that much, maybe 12 to 13L/100 around town

[MexicanBatman]

Coming from a patrol I wouldn't be worried.... If your petrol sorry patrol is a petrol model, what ever you buy will be like a hybrid in comparison

[V8 Man]

I get about 21.5 lt/100km out of my RTV with the quad cam in it (almost identical to the 3 valve fitted previously) thats pretty much all stop start city driving, fully loaded, (and driving for economy is against my religion).
As a comparision one of my employees drives a BA one tonner straight 6 on petrol, carrying similar weight (with a similar driving style) and gets 22 lt/100km. Why the hell anyone bothers with a 6 is beyond me :-)

[SSD-85]

Originally Posted by V8 Man

Why the hell anyone bothers with a 6 is beyond me :-)

I agree, whilst mine is the ol' 5L id have to say my 9L/100km is enough to render the I6 redundant.

[SSD-85]

Double Post

[xls3v]

3v between 13-17ish per 100

[v8 hurricane]

go the v8 unless insurance premium is stupid

[Scott]

Here's one I prepared earlier - yours with leather & 4A for a song... a cheap song:

[jlef5]

Originally Posted by GTP006

Here's one I prepared earlier - yours with leather & 4A for a song... a cheap song:

Something I wouldn't mind but how much.

[Scott]

As it sits - $13,500. Cheap.

[jlef5]

Originally Posted by MexicanBatman

Coming from a patrol I wouldn't be worried.... If your petrol sorry patrol is a petrol model, what ever you buy will be like a hybrid in comparison

It's a 4.2 turbo diesel with aftermarket intercooler don't know exact figures but best i've ever gotten highway is 12 ltrs per hundred round town is about 18 or higher.

[Elks]

I had a BA ute with a 3V 5.4 and 4 spd Auto.

It was a styleside with a hard-lid and never carried a load, (OK a spare tyre once LOL).

Anyway being use to the TS the thing was fantastic 12~14 around town, usually at the lower end of that and 10's on country running. Quick smooth and relatively frugal.

How it performs loaded I cant tell you, but the V8 gets my vote. A pic below for old times sake.

[jlef5]

is that a fairmont grill/front end

[Elks]

Originally Posted by jlef5

is that a fairmont grill/front end

Fairlane..

[jlef5]

looks a bit different i like it mate bit classy

[jlef5]

Originally Posted by GTP006

As it sits - $13,500. Cheap.

Can i get the rest of the details mate.

[04redxr8]

Originally Posted by jlef5

After some time I've decided on buying a ba falcon ute to replace my current Nissan patrol ute. I'm looking at spending about 10 to 15 grand on a ute. Will want tray back so I can make my own tool box/ fridge box and dog cage on it. Just after some rough ideas of the fuel economy from the 4ltr 6 with 4 speed auto compared to the 5.4ltr v8 with 4 auto. I will be doing about 50km a week city driving 50 a week highway to and from work. Plus an 900 km trip every 3 or 6 weeks. My old Ef I used to have around town was about 14ltr per hundred and about 10 ltr per hundred on the highway was a 5 ltr v8 with 4 speed auto. How big is the difference between the never 6 to the 8 on fuel.
Cheers

Buy a 6. As soon as you mention economy, you dont belong in an 8. The V8 is about 3-4 litres/ 100kms more thirsty.

[Turboconvert]

Originally Posted by 04redxr8

Buy a 6. As soon as you mention economy, you dont belong in an 8. The V8 is about 3-4 litres/ 100kms more thirsty.

Absolutely. Coming from a ba 6 n/a to a bf 8, economy was substantially worse. To get economy from an 8, well you might as well..... Drive it the way it deserves to be driven. Get the 6 mate, I got good economy from that.

[aussie muscle]

i was getting 13.8 doing mostly highway, now i'm doing more shorter trips and town driving, it's now up to 14.6 (v8 boss styleside with hard tonneau) according to my trip computer.

[ltd]

6 is bullet proof, the 3 valve V8 is a mongrel when doing things like spark plugs; genuine ford are around 80 bucks each plug. Then there's the ones where you try to remove the old plugs only to find some of them snap and if you haven't got the right removal tool, you have to take the heads off.
Then there's the timing chain guides which chew up and are a costly repair if out of warranty. Then there's those getting higher in the mileage which haven't been maintained properly and end up with heat problems, knocks and other miscellaneous things to annoy.
Don't take my word for it though, speak to anyone who regularly works on them.

My advice, go the 6 or at the very least, get a 4 valve Boss motor which atleast gets you away from the stupid plug design.

[290v]

My BA GT is at this moment around town 14.6 open Rd 10s to 11s

[Cav]

V8 and economy should not be used in the same sentence.

It's all about the driving.....

Anyway let's do some maths.

Assumptions..

difference between the I6 and V8 is 4l/100kms.
you do 1,000kms a month, 12,000kms a year.
petrol is $1.20 a litre

Your increase in fuel cost of the V8 over the I6 over 12 months is $576, or about $10 a week.

Harden up, grab the V8

[xls3v]

Originally Posted by Cav

Your increase in fuel cost of the V8 over the I6 over 12 months is $576, or about $10 a week.

Harden up, grab the V8

2nd that

[jlef5]

Stuff it you can't beat the sound of a good v8. XR8 ute here i come.

[jlef5]

Is it the xr8s that have the 4v heads and the xl utes that have the 3v heads. Or is the 4v head v8 an option in all utes.