Top secret report reveals new-look Holden with no V8

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Originally Posted by Gadgetman

The govt don't decide on when or whether a business chooses to close. That's a fact. There may be an article published that suggests that. Matter of fact there is lots of crap written by the press daily. You don't need to keep stating them with such conviction that some may believe it's gospel. Keep up the great work Factman

so why r you here reading threads and posted articles which give us news and info. You and fte50 seem to know it all already....somehow.
And am I sposed to believe official articles.....or a car salesman

ive talked and quoted about things in official reviews and or articles.
You've said im making it up

I showed you the articles where I got the facts from.

You ignore the facts and belittle me instead.
Answer me....have I not supplied you with every article I read where u implied I was lieing or making it up.
Whether the articles end up being correct in six years is beside the point...they are FACT NOW.

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the other thing to consider is the fact that car markets all over the world have to reach ever tightening emissions and fuel consumption targets, GM WONT import 100000 holden built SS Chevy V8s because it will stuff up their average fleet consumption. Why do you think the Cruze comes with a 1.4lt turbo in the US, no one took a punt on the capacity, it was chosen solely on fuel consumption.
The traditional V8 guzzlers in the us are moving to niche status, with the volume sellers downsizing capacity-F150 Ecoboost anyone?
Europe has done this for years, other technology like Direct shift transmissions and electric power steering systems arent used for fun, they can each drop fuel use by several % each.