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Like if I want to go forced induction, and the cost is about the same as the vehicle's total worth, would that be overcapitalising? We all value things differently - how many non-enthusiasts see value in any of the mods we do? |
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$$ spent = $$ lost unfortunately. The more you spent the more lost ![]() But in saying that, if you spend $155k on a wd40 HSV or if you spent $90k on a supercharged VE GTS, $90k, you have lost less on the Supercharged GTS (and you get more performance). As time goes on, the WD40 car wont maintain the $65k premium over the regular GTS. So not only will it depreciate but at a much much faster rate than the GTS as well. Would you buy a three year old W427 with 30,000km at $90,000 or a brand new E3 GTS for $80k?? Or better yet a equal performing Coyote GT at $80k? Last edited by RAPID_BA; 20-08-2012 at 01:35 PM. |
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You want to see money go West at an alarming rate , start playing with BMW, MB or Jaguar... |
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je-zusus.......................
Hulk BA A W427 is a W427, its the epitome of HSV engineering. Just bolting a charger onto a GTS wont maketh the same car, faster, yes, but it misses out on the authenticity of a factory rocket. Using your theory, a BA2 XR8 with a supercharger is a FG Coyote. Now, you keep on questioning the price of a W427. So, here are some more facts. HSV (Just like FPV) spend millions developing there cars, this does just mean the slap a crate engine in, some new wheels, stand back light a cig and marvel there creation. No. After reading an article on the depths they go to, the cars sound more special. HSV develop there own ESC, which means Millions on spent on prototypes, world wide testing, programing etc. The W427 would have its own TCS and ESC, as the LS7's characteristics are different to the LS3. You don't get that in a modded car. Don't get me wrong, Modified cars a fun (Why do think i spent more the the cars worth on turbo kits, suspension etc)...but they don't have the awesomeness of knowing that its factory... Thats why cars like the Fairlane thunder bolt are held in high regard...Factory built weapon...factory installed big block. If your mindset is limited to thinking the value of one car is only determined buy the value of another car + its aftermarket part...then you should just give up...
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Personally, I think the W427 will become the most collectible Aussie car ever.
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Can argue all you want HSV delivered the goods in a market that was shrinking. A car that didnt 'just have a blower strapped on it', a car that was engineered all over with better suspension, brakes and a monster dry sumped donk plain and simple.
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A BA2 XR8 with supercharger has nothing to do with this thread so im not sure why you bring it up? But as you do, ill let you know something. I could have bought a new FG GT cash, a WD40 HSV as well. But I decided to invest my money in assets that appreciate. Further, the guy who pays me rent coincidently drives a F6 FG (better than my lowly Supercharged XR8). I wonder how he enjoys the payments on his F6 as well as paying off my mortgage. In a few years time my tenant will have an old clunker FG F6 to show for his hard work and he will still be paying me rent. When he has helped me accumulated enough wealth, Ill go get a brand new GT.... maybe he can pay it off for me too ![]() |
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I can agree, if the choice came, RS4/GTR/W427 i know it wouldnt be an aussie car id buy.
But the 427 is Australian and a major achievement here in OZ. A factory built powerhouse having a crack at the Euros. Well done HSV.
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One of the problems with telling lies on the internet and pretending to be someone, do something or own something that you do not is that all of your fantasies and fairy stories are there for anyone with access to google to find.
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![]() OVER PRICED , OVER RATED and over here. Watch this modified RS4 get smoked by a $80k Stock ZR1 Corvette. Watch Lambo genie's best get smoked also........ ![]() Also the corvette outbrakes outhandles any of euros suposed greats.. ![]() http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLXjPc9An84 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXsKEbBxzls
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I'm not sure if this thread makes me laugh or cry...... it's so sad in lots of ways!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZlGMX8G3B4 OH yeh i am a ford man but that is the LS9 Motor holden wants to put in there Dunnydoor
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Collectible yes, the most collectible no way. Well certainly not if you work out what a genuine phase 3 or 4 or even Monaro if you love Holden or Charge cost new compared to know in % terms anyway. Even with inflation i cant see a W427 been worth 10 million in 35 years |
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[QUOTE=HULK_BA]Hmmmm. Yes a W427 is a w427 but at the same price a RS4 is also a RS4, c63 is a c63, GTR is a GTR, (you get the point.) I didnt say the wd40 was no good, just too pricey for what it is and not a match for other marques in that price point. Do you really believe that the HSV is a worthy opponent for these highly acclaimed cars in all facets??
A BA2 XR8 with supercharger has nothing to do with this thread so im not sure why you bring it up? But as you do, ill let you know something. I could have bought a new FG GT cash, a WD40 HSV as well. But I decided to invest my money in assets that appreciate. Further, the guy who pays me rent coincidently drives a F6 FG (better than my lowly Supercharged XR8). I wonder how he enjoys the payments on his F6 as well as paying off my mortgage. In a few years time my tenant will have an old clunker FG F6 to show for his hard work and he will still be paying me rent. When he has helped me accumulated enough wealth, Ill go get a brand new GT.... maybe he can pay it off for me too :yelrotfl Very, very sad . That post would eclipse all of your others , your all class hulk if I was your tenant and read that I'd be spitting in your dinner. As others have said if you can afford it why not. There aren't too many later cars that are value for money NOW ( just ask the fella tryng to sell a GTE at the moment) , but down the track these things are going to be worth a LOT more than a GTS with mods . End of story. |
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A bit of reverse logic,
If FPV decided to do a big capacity 7.0 litre Falcon, they get a Hurricane 6.2 V8 and take it out to 427 CID, it has twin plug, hemi heads with ports like sewer pipes, so they dry sump it and give it 550 hp, then stick it in something like an R-Spec GT Falcon, how much would you pay? |
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I think the limit is 120k, which is what HSV were projecting for the W427. I think thats part of the reason why it failed to sell as much as they planned, all the talk by them at the time was that it was going to be around that price, which got a lot of people interested.
Then they put it on sale at 155k and most of the buyers walked away. 155k was just laughable, especially after they had thrown around 120k projections. There's definately a limit someone will pay for a locally made car and I think anything north of 120k is just a step too far. Even anything over 100k is asking too much except for the most desirable, iconic legends ie potential GTHO. |
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And so the thread slowly draws to the end...
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