MD Mondeo Diesel gearbox

Martyvan · 03-04-2017, 06:46 AM

I was in a dealer on Saturday talking about a few vehicles (fitting the kids in them!) when i asked about the gearbox in the diesel wagon they mentioned it was now a conventional torque converter auto rather than dual clutch, now i dont know if that is the case as i havnt seen info, but i have seen a couple of cars being advertised as MY17.5 and i dont know if there has been a change? Anyone know?
I really want a ecoboost trend wagon.... guess thats a pipedream... haha

ope126 · 03-04-2017, 07:41 AM

Car Sales still list them (MY17.5) as a 6 speed Sports Automatic Dual Clutch. They get their info from Redbook.

NZ XR6 · 03-04-2017, 09:33 AM

The UK Mondeo diesel still has the Powershift.

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gsd112 · 03-04-2017, 03:46 PM

The diesels have the dual clutch. Get the trend diesel wagon you wont be disappointed the ecoboost is a bit quicker but you can flog the diesel all day and still get high 6 litres per 100kms, drive a ecoboost like that and you will be in the 10-11 litres per 100. Never thought I would say it but the diesel is the way to go.

NX74205 · 03-04-2017, 04:22 PM

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drive a ecoboost like that and you will be in the 10-11 litres per 100.

... and I can vouch for that.

But if that doesn't bother you, I'd rather an Ecoboost over a diesel, to be honest. It's quicker and smoother - that's all that matters :P

Also, as far as I'm aware, the only petrol wagon is the Ambiente. If you want a Trend or Titanium wagon, they're diesel only, unfortunately.

Martyvan · 03-04-2017, 08:09 PM

Thanks guys. I dont mind the dual clutch, but would really like an ecoboost for smooth/quietness our current my14 pajero and my old VW jetta were both noisy!!!...... im in a unique position where my mrs is going for a new job, and ive sold my car already......so if she gets the job it comes with a company car (small) and i get a ranger/everest or if she doesnt get it, i will get a mondeo hahaha. Cant wait to find out so i can order something!!!

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gsd112 · 03-04-2017, 09:08 PM

I find it really quiet from inside the car. My diesel is incredibly smooth. As I said I never thought I would say it. I also have a 2011 G6ET and I find the MD smoother and quieter. I know people say the ecoboost is quicker but the difference is minimal in my opinion its not like the diesel to my G6ET know that you really notice.

Martyvan · 03-04-2017, 09:30 PM

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I find it really quiet from inside the car. My diesel is incredibly smooth. As I said I never thought I would say it. I also have a 2011 G6ET and I find the MD smoother and quieter. I know people say the ecoboost is quicker but the difference is minimal in my opinion its not like the diesel to my G6ET know that you really notice.

Im borrowing a falcon (BF2) at the moment.... it feels like it has no grunt down low compared to small diesel spoilt....

Does diesel Mondeo have DPF?
I didnt drive quite far enough on normal trips to activate burn off on the jetta... long way home fixed it...

Really appreciate feedback. Its hard to find out stuff on quick test drives

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Mondaveo · 05-04-2017, 02:52 PM

Yeah, diesel Mondeos are fitted with a DPF. The regen process is handled invisibly (or tries to be) with the driver having little control and receiving no direct feedback of when it's occurring. How did you know when a burn off was and was not occurring in the Jetta?

Martyvan · 05-04-2017, 03:38 PM

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Yeah, diesel Mondeos are fitted with a DPF. The regen process is handled invisibly (or tries to be) with the driver having little control and receiving no direct feedback of when it's occurring. How did you know when a burn off was and was not occurring in the Jetta?

A few ways....
Idle speed was up a few hundred rpm
Instant fuel use idling was up 0.3l/hr on normal
Wouldnt drop into 6th gear until 75kph (would only just make 5th at 60kph)
You could smell the exhaust change while warming up and putting something in the boot as well....

If i did a bunch of short trips and it kept going to too long (a few days) i would take the long way home and it sorted it out.

Most dpf burnoffs need a longer run time... most week days i wont run more than 12 mins before shutting down again....

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Mondaveo · 05-04-2017, 04:02 PM

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A few ways....
Idle speed was up a few hundred rpm
Instant fuel use idling was up 0.3l/hr on normal
Wouldnt drop into 6th gear until 75kph (would only just make 5th at 60kph)
You could smell the exhaust change while warming up and putting something in the boot as well....

Ah, okay. Sounds like exactly how you'd detect that your Mondeo was doing a regen too (short of reading DPF soot load numbers in Forscan or the like). I was curious whether other marques provided more direct feedback (like an indicator on the dashboard).

I usually never notice when my MC is doing a regen, I think it may be due to the driving we usually do, which around Canberra typically offers plenty of opportunity to do it under cruising conditions.

NZ XR6 · 05-04-2017, 05:56 PM

I can tell because the radiator fan comes on. But they don't happen often, even during city driving.

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bundybear75 · 05-04-2017, 08:41 PM

Does anyone know how often the Mondeo does a burn? I have done 40,000 km in the last 12 months and have never noticed it once.

I recently brought a 200 series Land Cruiser and it has a basic gauge on the odometer and it seems to burn about every 80km or so.

rondeo · 06-04-2017, 08:04 AM

Maybe around 300km

NZ XR6 · 06-04-2017, 06:16 PM

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Maybe around 300km

Maybe every 1,000 km, if that.

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bundybear75 · 06-04-2017, 06:30 PM

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Maybe every 1,000 km, if that.

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Thats about what I expected from my previous life driving an Isuzu truck.

The 'Cruiser has a basic gauge that indicates DPF 1 , DPF 2, DPF 3 then DPF 0. This would happen at least once on my 95km commute and sometimes twice. Seems excessive to me.

It also has a fairly sooty tailpipe which would indicate the DPF isnt working very well, I will have to get it checked next service.

NZ XR6 · 06-04-2017, 06:52 PM

The Mondeo diesel uses a Peugeot engine, which seems to be have one of the better DPF systems. The only thing I notice is sometimes a DPF cycle starts during city driving, which isn't ideal when you stop and turn the engine off. But then it has no way of knowing what your going to do!

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Martyvan · 08-04-2017, 08:00 PM

Well. The gearbox feela smoother than my VW dsg. I finally got to drive titanium wagon today. Its far smoother/quieter than i was anticipating.... now to work out which to order.

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Martyvan · 28-05-2017, 08:45 AM

Well. I should be receiving this week a 2017 build Trend wagon. Couldn't justify the extra expense of the Titanium even though some of the tricks are great! Its an MY17... i originally ordered a MY17.5 but they told me they wouldn't arrive until September. So they were able to find an MY17. Only real difference is the wheels. Much prefer the 17" wheels on appearance even though they will be a bugger to clean! Cant wait to get it. Have been driving my old mans LZ Focus and it really likes a drink.

Thanks for your input.

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BigJamo · 28-05-2017, 12:22 PM

Thats sounds awesome.
Enjoy your new ride.