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Old 02-11-2007, 12:18 PM   #1
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Have just got word from the boss regarding the new 200series prices.

T/D:
GXL:$79'990
VX: $89'990
sahara: $104'990

Petrol's are 10g less then their turbo brothers.
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Old 02-11-2007, 12:23 PM   #2
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Whats an LC200? IS it a ford?
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Old 02-11-2007, 12:24 PM   #3
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Old 02-11-2007, 12:34 PM   #4
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so why is this on FOrd Forums, if iwant to know about toytoa price and specs i can go to www.toyota.com.au or contact a dealer.
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Just thought I'd let people know, we seem to do enough bagging about them, so heres somethin else for ya.
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Farrk. So, Mr. Toyota, are they really worth the extra $30,000 over the nearest equivalent Patrol?
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Thats kinda like a dead set holden fan if he buy a ford, but the Lc200 does have a fair few more standard features.
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Thats kinda like a dead set holden fan if he buy a ford, but the Lc200 does have a fair few more standard features.
Mate, I've Had a GU Patrol, but before I bought my Territory was going to get a LC100 Kakadu, so you can't really use that line on me. I am just a bit concerned that the LC200 won't be as capable off road as its predecessor, as it has more computers than a Space Shuttle in it. Not being one eyed, just asking.


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Well you get a fair bit more engine for the money too in the turbo diesel department.
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so 75 kay for a standard GXL V8?

I dont think sales will be as high as Toyota would like, the old model was mid 50's for a V8...

20 kay more?? I don't think people will pay that, specially not people wanting to lease as theres there implications for them over 57 kay.
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Farrk. So, Mr. Toyota, are they really worth the extra $30,000 over the nearest equivalent Patrol?
If buying new, For Off-road and touring I would take the Patrol they are just such a tough 4WD and even stock they are very capable, Thou now that Nissan have had to drop the 4.2Ltr diesel and the 3.0ltr should have been booted long ago, the Toyota is better that's talking Wagons thou, With the Utes it's a hard pick between the 79 and the Coil Cab patrols the Patrols have the more refined inside and look a bit nicer and are still tough as but only come with the 3.0Ltr diesel now as well, the Tojo utes have the Nice V8 diesel now and the inside is a little more rugged and durable too IMO.

Second-hand, I would take a Coil cab patrol with a 6.5 Intercooled supercharged Chev Diesel, :
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Old 02-11-2007, 02:20 PM   #12
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The Lc200 computer wise as you say is no different to the Lc100, though there is a new hydraulic suspension system called KDSS (Kinetic Dynamic Suspension System) developed over in WA, the new system is meant to optimally adjust Front and rear stabilizer bars for on and off road handling.

LSTG: Yes the current special on a v8 gxl is $56990 drive away, but before that retail was $63,274 + ORC. Yes its a price hike, but so far hasn't stopped us, we've pre sold our allocation to march next year.
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Have just got word from the boss regarding the new 200series prices.

T/D:
GXL:$79'990
VX: $89'990
sahara: $104'990

Petrol's are 10g less then their turbo brothers.
If that doesn't show there's room for a Turbodiesel Territory among the grey nomads then Ford are eyes wide shut. Easily carry a 5g premium and still sell.

They could sell a touring pack TDI AWD with HD tow TS>Ghia spec with Sports leather trim and Satnav DVD for 65-70 easy. I know that the natural competitor is the Prado not the LC but in the market they compete with used LCs everyday.

IMHO there is the need for the Terri update to offer 2 versions - 1 more citySUV oriented, versus Kluger & co. And 1 more touring oriented, TDI approach/dep angles retained version, versus Prado, LC etc. It's still no offroader in the true sense but could easily be tailored more to what is a growing market of See Ozzers, and serve them very well.
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Have just got word from the boss regarding the new 200series prices.

T/D:
GXL:$79'990
VX: $89'990
sahara: $104'990

Petrol's are 10g less then their turbo brothers.
I can't see how everyone is saying there has been a $20k increase in price, more like a $7k increase:

LC100 series prices from Redbook:

T/D:
GXL: $72,774 (LC200 $79,990)
VX: $80,974 (LC200 $89,990)
Sahara:$94,574 (LC200 $104,990)
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Old 02-11-2007, 03:23 PM   #15
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TTONKA, isn't the terror rivial the kluger.

BTW the price's I've listed for the LC200 includes Luxo car tax of about 8g.
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TTONKA, isn't the terror rivial the kluger.

BTW the price's I've listed for the LC200 includes Luxo car tax of about 8g.
kluger is only just starting to become a rival to Territory. The majority of Prado and Cruiser buyers are using their 4x4s to do the same work as Territories do - modern family car and tour or tow, occassional light bush run not bash. Suit everyone from couples - unsung modern panelvan, yummy mummies to grey nomads.
A diesel option would open up 25% more of the medium SUV market to Territory, factory LPG would help too. Diesel Prado gets plenty of sales where shopped against Territory purely because of no diesel option for touring range.
Vfacts would tell you that anyday, so would a trip to any school carpark around 3.30pm. Even Tom Gorman is on record saying as much.

BTW if you have 3 in car seats like us then Toyota can offer you the Tarago, Prado and kluger don't work - friends currently have that dilemma right now, 3rd bub, Subaru Outback too small, Prado too narrow, Kluger middle row has 2 anchors. He's a Toyo man, even drives a Prius
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My understanding is that the diesels don't have a sub tank anymore!!! Seems like one step forward in one direction but a big step back in another....
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yep just a 80litre main tank i think it is
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Yes one tank for VX and Sahara, 2 for the GXL,

Kluger has 3 anchor point in middle row.

Kluger missed out by out selling ther terror by 40 units in its first month. See how it goes once vfacts comes through this month.

Kluger 1510 inside width
Prado 1520 " " " "

I do agree with most of what your saying, and also explains why every 1 awd terror sold 2 2wd's are sold.
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$100,000 TDV8 Land Cruiser VX
$109,000 TDV8 Range Rover Sport
I think I know which I would prefer.
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Kluger = Teritory competitor/Pathfinder
Prado = Patrol
LC200 = its its own competitor.

patrol is same price as prado, offers the same off road ability as prado, and same engine sizes/spces as prado, nothing seems to pull its weight to compare to the LC200 either in engine/size or off road ability, even the suspention system was designed in WA to suit OUR conditions better, they are bigger and more competant off road, should have video footage when my GM gets back from the daintree as they are off for a week doing evaluations up there on the 200 series.
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Kluger = Teritory competitor/Pathfinder
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LC200 = its its own competitor.

patrol is same price as prado, offers the same off road ability as prado, and same engine sizes/spces as prado, nothing seems to pull its weight to compare to the LC200 either in engine/size or off road ability, even the suspention system was designed in WA to suit OUR conditions better, they are bigger and more competant off road, should have video footage when my GM gets back from the daintree as they are off for a week doing evaluations up there on the 200 series.
Yeah our DM's up there atm too, he's been txting us info all day.

Yeah as i said before about the KDSS was disigned in WA, not the full suspension system
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Have just got word from the boss regarding the new 200series prices.

T/D:
GXL:$79'990
VX: $89'990
sahara: $104'990

Petrol's are 10g less then their turbo brothers.
And the top of the line turbo diesels dont even have a secondary tank. It would have made them too heavy and put them into a different weight class and even more expensive ! :
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$100,000 TDV8 Land Cruiser VX
$109,000 TDV8 Range Rover Sport
I think I know which I would prefer.
TDV8 Landcruiser VX is $80,000, NOT $100,000
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TDV8 VX Landcruiser is $89'990, not $100,000 my mistake! still even at that price I would still go the Rangie Sport, oh and yeah I do realise that there is the cheaper GXL, but do you really want a near $80,000 base model car?
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Let me know what you get that makes it so basic? and I'm sure most people have seen how well the range rover sport performs off road in that top gear episode.
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In regards to Kluger sales amounts, it'll be hard to compare it. I'm not sure what the production capacity of the Territory is and whether or not they have plenty of free and available stock, but take it from a Toyota stock controller when I say that Kluger would sell a truckload more if Toyota could supply more. Unfortunately they cannot.
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The term base model is thrown around a lot... but it's hard to understand how you say it when the term 'base' model for a ve commodore and the term 'base' model for a 200 landcruiser would both indicate very different spec levels.

For starters, Toyota refers it as "entry level" for this very reason. The term 'base model' is too quick to pounce on the model as if it comes with nothing. I think you'll find you're way off with the spec that a 200 series GXL will come with.
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$100,000 TDV8 Land Cruiser VX
$109,000 TDV8 Range Rover Sport
I think I know which I would prefer.
Going from Toyota to Land Rover is like going from Reliability Heaven to Reliability Hell. I don't think you need 'Classy European Style' when you go off-road.
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