Global New Ranger Raptor reveal

[Franco Cozzo]

What a beast!

Sign me up for the 4x2 povvo pack with drum brakes, alloy tray, 5sp manual, 16" Chinese all terrain tyres and the 3.0L V6 Ecoboost with 292KW/583NM.

Everyone on AFF is invited to my wake

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Of course and many would support a project like that but the floor collapsed when the
Americans couldn’t justify it for Bronco, CAFE and real world fuel economy were just
something they couldn’t reconcile. Without their support, a factory V8 is out of reach.

On the up side, the 3.0 V6 EB is going to reach a lot of buyers (and so would an Everest EB)
That little 3.0 will probably get tuned within an inch of its life, how much HP will we see..

On the other side, who’s gonna put twin turbos on the diesel V6 and wind the wick up…
I can’t wait to see some of the more out there people testing the limits of these engines…

Herrod have already alluded to a power upgrade here.

https://www.whichcar.com.au/a-faster...ptor-is-coming

[Hulsty]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

What a beast!

Sign me up for the 4x2 povvo pack with drum brakes, alloy tray, 5sp manual, 16" Chinese all terrain tyres and the 3.0L V6 Ecoboost with 292KW/583NM.

Everyone on AFF is invited to my wake

Sounds like you would have enjoyed our work Hilux, 4.0L petty V6, 4x2 povo, alloy tray, nick names "the bullet"

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Hulsty

Sounds like you would have enjoyed our work Hilux, 4.0L petty V6, 4x2 povo, alloy tray, nick names "the bullet"

Hell yeah, the 4.0L V6 Hilux made no sense when the Falcon ute was around, but these days I make romantic heart eyes emojis at it

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by FPV8U

Ford and Ford Performance have done a great job with this thing, while obviously fuel is dear at the moment and likely to get worse, I have to chuckle about the fuel economy chat, yes the diesel will flog it in this area but really that’s not what the Raptor is all about is it.

I’d be almost sure there will be a V6 Diesel FX4 Max not too far away for those that want that style of vehicle.

Side note.. Ford if you could drop this engine into the XLT I’d be very thankful..

The same flogs that sooked about the 2 litre will now sook about fuel economy of the 3 litre. They are usually the most povo blokes that could never afford one anyway. Utter tossers.

I bloke spending near 100k for a car isn't going to give 2 ****s if the extra fuel use costs him an extra $20-30 bucks a week is he? Jesus christ these whingers are pathetic.

People buying Ram and Silverado V8's don't give a damn about fuel costs, neither will Raptor buyers.

What will these einsteins claim next, that Putin will stop his invasion cause it's going to cost extra to fill his tanks up?

[FPV8U]

Ford and Ford Performance have done a great job with this thing, while obviously fuel is dear at the moment and likely to get worse, I have to chuckle about the fuel economy chat, yes the diesel will flog it in this area but really that’s not what the Raptor is all about is it.

I’d be almost sure there will be a V6 Diesel FX4 Max not too far away for those that want that style of vehicle.

Side note.. Ford if you could drop this engine into the XLT I’d be very thankful..

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by FPV8U

Ford and Ford Performance have done a great job with this thing, while obviously fuel is dear at the moment and likely to get worse, I have to chuckle about the fuel economy chat, yes the diesel will flog it in this area but really that’s not what the Raptor is all about is it.

I’d be almost sure there will be a V6 Diesel FX4 Max not too far away for those that want that style of vehicle.

Side note.. Ford if you could drop this engine into the XLT I’d be very thankful..

If Ford has gone to the trouble of fitting a EcoBoost V6 into the Raptor, I would think the smaller 2.7 would be an easy option to offer on say XLT and Wildtrack. The 2.7 is about 300hp, I'd be happy with that.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

If Ford has gone to the trouble of fitting a EcoBoost V6 into the Raptor, I would think the smaller 2.7 would be an easy option to offer on say XLT and Wildtrack. The 2.7 is about 300hp, I'd be happy with that.

325 hp/400 lb ft, just over 240 kw/540 nm.
The 2.7 EB is a terrific engine and goes hard in F150.

There’s nothing in the plan for the baby six in our market, that’s a shame
but I understand why (more than a few won’t)

[FPV8U]

I’d be surprised if the majority of Ram or Raptor owners are cross shopping.

While I’d happily have either in the driveway, even at 1500 level the Ram is a V8 cruiser that’s built for towing a big boat or van and eating up km in comfort.

The Raptor is about taking the gravel road that’s twice as long as the highway, putting it in Baja mode and coming out the other side with a smile.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by FPV8U

The Raptor is about taking the gravel road that’s twice as long as the highway, putting it in Baja mode and coming out the other side with a smile.

Judging from what I've seen of Ranger drivers around here they'd be coming out the other side on a tow truck

[MITCHAY]

Wow Ford went all out and gave the people what they wanted short of a V8 and there are arguments over fuel economy. Really?

[au2000]

5 of our 7 cars have 8 cylinders... btw.. whats this thing called fuel economy we speak of?
Im one of the "tossers" that bagged the 2 litre raptor.. and still do.. but this new one id be glad to own.

[383hq]

Worlds gone mad. 390 hp lifted 4wd ute turned into a BSFC discussion.
Driving to it's capability could be a long walk back if you got it wrong, perhaps thats why? It can't be due to a lack of space for Jerry cans...

Should be talking about the adaptive damping shocks - they'd cost more then my FG2 (which doesn't handle getting airborne to well). Callibrated Adaptive damping has gotta be good.

[chookaradley]

Read a lot of reviews on not only the Raptor but the Ranger in general. Cant remember any mainstream vehicle so widely anticipated. Most comment pages are generally mixed when it comes to new vehicles, but in the case of the Raptor Ford have smashed it out of the park.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by chookaradley

Read a lot of reviews on not only the Raptor but the Ranger in general. Cant remember any mainstream vehicle so widely anticipated. Most comment pages are generally mixed when it comes to new vehicles, but in the case of the Raptor Ford have smashed it out of the park.

Until some bloke on here who would never buy one (or can’t afford one), complains about the fuel economy, and towing capacity.

[chookaradley]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

Until some bloke on here who would never buy one (or can’t afford one), complains about the fuel economy, and towing capacity.

That person can buy a v6 diesel Wildtrack..

[jgmdat]

Originally Posted by chookaradley

That person can buy a v6 diesel Wildtrack..

He can't afford that one either.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

Until some bloke on here who would never buy one (or can’t afford one), complains about the fuel economy, and towing capacity.

In a way, I’m guilty of giving them oxygen by actually discussing facts,
I should and do know better…

You have to wonder how some peoples minds work, obviously triggered
by a petrol engined Ute that’s not intended for Ute work….
Those wanting a more practical diesel based Ute have the rest of the Ford
Ranger range to choose from, what do they want?

As an Apex vehicle, Ranger Raptor has very few real competitors in the market
and unless Toyota or GM does something radical, it will have the field to itself
and that level of uniqueness has to add to the exclusivity of owning one, lucky buggers

[lra]

Mr Ford, I would like to replace my aging Holden Crewman with a new similar dual cab ute for personal and recreational use.

Can I please have a 3.0L 6 cylinder petrol engine, no turbo, RWD, a reasonable ground clearance for country roads, disc brakes all round, not many bells and whistles to annoy the actual driving experience, and a price not exceeding $60K.

I am sure that you could arrange this, as not everyone wants a diesel to lug trailers and caravans, or explore the great outdoor nothingness at high speed, jumping sand dunes and humps in the road.
Thank you.

[jpd80]

Ford doesn’t make a 3.0 non-turbo V6 anywhere, the closest it would have is the 3.3 V6 in F150.
American Rangers are expected to continue with 2.3 I-4 Ecoboost and 2.7 V6 Ecoboost but there’s
nothing like that is planned for our market……A Ranger XR6 Turbo would be nice but how many buyers?

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by lra

Mr Ford, I would like to replace my aging Holden Crewman with a new similar dual cab ute for personal and recreational use.

Can I please have a 3.0L 6 cylinder petrol engine, no turbo, RWD, a reasonable ground clearance for country roads, disc brakes all round, not many bells and whistles to annoy the actual driving experience, and a price not exceeding $60K.

I am sure that you could arrange this, as not everyone wants a diesel to lug trailers and caravans, or explore the great outdoor nothingness at high speed, jumping sand dunes and humps in the road.
Thank you.

Twin cab utes are our biggest sellers there is plenty to choose from most are not used for lugging trailers or used for leaping sand dunes. and are available for under $60K they really dont need disc brakes on the rear most wouldn't even notice.
so its just the diesel thing to get your head around - drive one you might be surprised, they go better than if it had the V6 from the Crewman.

[jpd80]

In fairness to Bent, his position may have been misinterpreted as a dig at fuel consumption when in fact it was about a vehicle that requires 98 at a cost of say $2.30/litre being a much harder sell, something Ford couldn’t predict during development when prices were less than $1.60/litre.

I think at least one journo posed the same question about the cost of fuel but really, people who buy these vehicles go in eyes open, no one is making them do it. Those wanting bang for bucks, are not actually Ranger Raptor buyers, this is an apex vehicle for gotta have buyers with an exclusivity that can’t be had with any other product in the Ranger list.

Besides, if it bang for bucks you’re looking for, there are plenty of other choices in the range like 3.0 Powerstroke FX4 or Wildtrak, who knows, Ford might even offer a diesel version of the Raptor down the track…

And the price of fuel might actually ease later in the year….

[jpd80]

After all the bitching and moaning about a diesel in Ranger Raptor, the last thing anyone should be complaining about is the fuel economy of the 3.0 Ecoboost, it is hands down the best engine for this application and gives buyers exactly what they have been wanting.

[shewi6]

I think evryone should realise without the 2.0 raptor there likely would not have been one at all, and it's success has given ford reason to go all out for the new one.
I know in my hometown about 1 in 4 rangers i see is a raptor and don't see why a petrol version will not do as well.

[CyberWasp]

I want to give Kudos to Ford Oz.
They have to deliver a vehicle in LHD & RHD in many different model & engine configurations for the world market. I think I have heard about 3 different Raptor versions already with Oz, Europe & Asia for example.
I really hope they are being rewarded for their hard work.
Compare this to Ford USA who can't be a$$ed about RHD let alone other markets outside of the USA aka Maverick which would sell up a storm overseas.
Surely they are showing these guys up.

[Bossxr8]

The 3 litre Ecoboost has some solid tuning potential if this Explorer ST is anything to go by. Just some basic mods and it's making 657 rwhp on stock internals. And running 10's.

https://www.fordmuscle.com/features/...d-explorer-st/

[Wretched]

How long before someone fits a Ford GT V6 in there? Vroom Vroom

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Wretched

How long before someone fits a Ford GT V6 in there? Vroom Vroom

Might take a while to find one at a wreckers

[Trevor 57]

I talked to my son yesterday, he has put $2k down on one

He is selling his Y62, he reckons with all bits and bobs on it he won't have to dig into his pocket too far for the Raptor

He has decided that the twin cab ute is a better option for him, his girlfriend, their 2 little kids and 2 Healers. Whenever they go anywhere in the Y62 they have to leave the dogs behind, they would normally go camping with them

He was saying that all he really needs to do to it is a bullbar and winch, everything else on the new Raptor is bush ready


On the topic of fuel - if you own a Y62 you won't be too worried about the fuel economy of a Raptor - his words, not mine

[DoreSlamR]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

On the topic of fuel - if you own a Y62 you won't be too worried about the fuel economy of a Raptor - his words, not mine

Almost identical power and torque figures too.