License restrictions in SA

[sgt_doofey]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/s...-1225886885470

Looks like we're getting restrictions on what cars new drivers can drive.
It says all non-diesel turbo charged engines. I wonder if this will include the new EcoBoost 4cyl soon to be released in the Falcon?

[Kryton]

Originally Posted by sgt_doofey

I wonder if this will include the new EcoBoost 4cyl soon to be released in the Falcon?

What part of NO TURBOS except diesel doesnt the Ecoboost fall into?

[smally289]

"Vehicles that have been modified to increase engine performance" ... that is a big can of worms right there!

[sgt_doofey]

Excemptions: http://www.mylicence.sa.gov.au/__dat...mance_list.pdf

Originally Posted by davway

What part of NO TURBOS except diesel doesnt the Ecoboost fall into?

Originally Posted by My License Web Site

View the list of excluded vehicles (PDF 65Kb) including those vehicles where manufacturers have used turbo charged or supercharged engines for fuel efficiency improvements, but are not classified as high performance vehicles.

I wonder how often the list will be revised to add new cars? I.e. EcoBoost being released.

[Jason[98.EL]]

They cant even get the facts right Vic has had this for years and yet you are the third state to get it after nsw and qld

It only affects those who get their license after the 4th sept anyway

Jason

[FrogInASock]

One wonders if old mate's 100kw V8 Range Rover will be banned while his neighbour's 190+kW Falcon will be allowed. I recall that took place when NSW introduced these laws.

[pottery beige]

i survived 351 cubic inches of death....

[prydey]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

i survived 351 cubic inches of death....

i often wonder how previous generations survived, being allowed to drive such death machines!!

everyone knows you can't kill yourself in a slow car!! that must be true.. right?

non turbo cars can't hit a tree at 60km/h

non v8 cars can't veer onto the wrong side of the road

non modified cars are safe as houses!!

apparently, with the introduction of these laws, we are only 4 years behind the east coast now

in reality, i'm looking forward to the year 2000. s.a is really closing in!

[Iggypoppin']

Glad I already have a licence!
And we all thought SA was safe(except for the speed cameras!!)

[Franco Cozzo]

Welcome to 2007.

[FrogInASock]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

i survived 351 cubic inches of death....

You are an environmental vandal and surely a danger to society, and should be forever restricted to driving a Toyota Echo 1.3 litre.

Seriously, however, I am somewhat in two minds. My first car was a Mini Clubman GT which topped out at about 140km/h but simply didn't have to slow down in corners. Just a couple of drops of well placed leaking oil from the car in front and I'd be well and truly wrapped around the big tree near Woonona High School. So there's the "smaller/slower cars can kill, too" side.

However, IMHO it seems to be the turbocharged Jap imports (Skylines, normally) and Commodores that are always in the news, normally wrapped around something that got in their road. Is this a news conspiracy, that only turboed Skylines and Commodores have big car crashes?

[WASP]

Originally Posted by prydey

i often wonder how previous generations survived, being allowed to drive such death machines!!

everyone knows you can't kill yourself in a slow car!! that must be true.. right?

non turbo cars can't hit a tree at 60km/h

non v8 cars can't veer onto the wrong side of the road

non modified cars are safe as houses!!

lol..very true, but on a more serious note look at it this way. You can give someone a gun without bullets and they can still find a way to do themselves in with it, or hurt someone else if they do not possess the appropriate skills, or mental maturity to handle the gun correctly. Giving a known inexperienced and possibly adolescent driver a high powered vehicle is just like loading that same gun with bullets before handing it over. The smart one's will know not to pull the trigger, but for some the temptation will be too great now they have the power.

Sure anyone can kill themselves or hurt others using any form of mobile transport, but that’s not a reason to provide them with all the necessary tools to increase the chances of this happening. I do agree that those P platers that are giving the undeserving ones a bad reputation will still no doubt find a way to make a nascence of themselves regardless of vehicle. As mentioned before I just don’t think we should be making it easier by providing access to vehicles that are more desirable to them to use irresponsibly.

I can appreciate that this is a bitter pill to swallow for those young P plater drivers that love their car and do the right thing.

As mentioned in another thread I to remember my P plater days. I was 17, owned a modified 351 V8. To this day I have no idea how I didn’t kill myself, or hurt anyone else at the time but see this as pure luck more than anything else.

****, I’m sounding old!!.

[svo supporter]

I think it's a bit of a farsical. (Spelling). A modern 4 banger, ala a toyota camry has more power and torque than an old XA 6 banger.

Geez, we drove V8's, with 4 wheel drum brakes that'd take half a mile to stop from 100KPH.

It's not power that kills people. It's the loose nut behind the wheel.

[pottery beige]

make all P platers drive HT holdens with stuffed tail shafts and bent rims.. anything over 75kmh eyeballs begin to blur.. you and the car will begin to fall apart.. thats how i made it through.. the 351 caper was pure luck and chance and **** knows how i made it...

[smally289]

What did Dick Johnson say years ago ..... "Ban low performance drivers, not high performance cars".

How about teaching the kids how to drive properly?? Nah, lets just wait until they turn 25 and then, magically, overnight they will gain the skills needed to drive a more powerful car.

[Franco Cozzo]

Civic Type R is a 4 cylinder FWD car, but you don't need to slow for corners in that thing.

[Bucknaked]

There will be power to weight restrictions. Like bikes.

[SLO AU XR8]

Originally Posted by smally351

What did Dick Johnson say years ago ..... "Ban low performance drivers, not high performance cars".

Best quote from any Driver EVER!

[pottery beige]

when your 18yo you dont think you can die.... a $500 POS VN in the wet is a death machine.. driver training or not you either make it or you dont.. if your just that little bit loose in the head bye bye...

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Bucknaked

There will be power to weight restrictions. Like bikes.

There USED to be in Victoria, as of 2007 there isn't, just a blanket ban on turbo and V8s.

Except turbos now have an exemption for things like VW's 1.4 TSI engines and diesel turbos.

[prydey]

anyone would think young kids wanting to go fast is a new thing. ask your grandparents some of the things they got up to as young 'uns and it'll make todays kids look like church boys.

[michaelstockton]

That track at Gillman.

But oh no, it's too logical, huh ?