Holden Museum closing it’s doors

[kevino]

It’s the same engine as Zb which develops its maximum torque at 5500 rpm quite bizarre

[Citroënbender]

All the ironies of where this thread has ended up. It’s like a wake devolving into a discussion of the deceased’s favourite shoes. Or people going to see a musician just to hear one or two tunes from their repertory of 50 years ago.

A more apposite summary of the original topic might be: “Museum dedicated to discontinued car brand, closes due to lack of commercial sustainability as visitors diminish year on year.”

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by kevino

It’s the same engine as Zb which develops its maximum torque at 5500 rpm quite bizarre

I hate the way the VEII/VF/VFII V6 drives, it's got absolutely nothing sub 4500 RPM, then it really moves off, reminds me of the 5.4 4V in the BA/BF XR8 Falcons except even worse.

It's no good for a large heavy sedan and that's where if the Commodore had the Barra it's be the best car ever, as the rest of the VF is great

[Sprintey]

Recent driving of the SIDI one I actually liked it. Compared a late Barra on the same day which shifted early and choked itself (that would adapt over time and just be the driver software I guess). But the Holden V6 was fun to punt around an industrial area.

I remember the very strong meh on driving the HFV6 for the first time in a new VZ - told the old man to keep his VY.

Also, with the late SIDI ones they made a factory Australian E85 compatible flex fuel motor, those will be golden once missiles start flying in the SCS and our petrol and diesel ship imports get disrupted and the 12 days of reserve fuel is gone. GMH were very ahead of their time.

Looking at those brilliant pics DFB, we used to make all of that here. Now we make lattes.

[Sprintey]

186 was their best 6 imo.

Peak torque at 1600 revs, take that diesels.

[Sprintey]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

Recent driving of the SIDI one I actually liked it. Compared a late Barra on the same day which shifted early and choked itself (that would adapt over time and just be the driver software I guess). But the Holden V6 was fun to punt around an industrial area.

I remember the very strong meh on driving the HFV6 for the first time in a new VZ - told the old man to keep his VY.

Also, with the late SIDI ones they made a factory Australian E85 compatible flex fuel motor, those will be golden once missiles start flying in the SCS and our petrol and diesel ship imports get disrupted and the 12 days of reserve fuel is gone. GMH were very ahead of their time.

Looking at those brilliant pics DFB, we used to make all of that here. Now we make lattes.

Quoting myself lol

Just read Israel has begun to strike back at Iran... no geopol risk on that for E85 haha!

[Dr Terry]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I hate the way the VEII/VF/VFII V6 drives, it's got absolutely nothing sub 4500 RPM, then it really moves off, reminds me of the 5.4 4V in the BA/BF XR8 Falcons except even worse.

It's no good for a large heavy sedan and that's where if the Commodore had the Barra it's be the best car ever, as the rest of the VF is great

You must have driven "Friday build" cars Franco. Or maybe the VFs are better than the VE versions.

I have 2 VF V6s, my 3.6 SV6 sedan & the better half's 3.0 Berlina Sportwagon. Both good reliable daily drivers, both now nearing nearing 200,000 km on the clock.

The 3.0 wagon goes almost as well as the SV6, plus is very economical. We can drive Sydney metro to Melbourne metro without refuelling.

The main thing with both the Alloytecs & the SIDI version is regular oil changes with a quality oil.

Dr Terry

[roKWiz]

Sad to see, but one to watch, the bidding has started.

https://burnsandco.hibid.com/catalog...museum?apage=8





Sandman sitting at $48 000 so far 37 bids.



HSV Statesman $14 750 so far 43 bids



HJ Statesman Caprice Coupe ???? which I 've never heard of. $67 750 35 bids