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Hi FF.
As part of big clean up yesterday (which made me go a bit mental) when moving dishwasher I bent the metal pipe accidentally and water everywhere. I turned off the main so it's stopped as nowhere else seemed to work but does anyone know what best way to fix? Sure could get a plumber but I think I can do.it with right products as only very small split. I'm guessing a Selleys product of some sort? |
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let me start with the disclosure that im not a plumber
but in my qualified profession i am able to and have the equipment to solder copper joints (and have done in the past) but with these on the market https://www.bunnings.com.au/smartex-...pling_p4700312 anyone can now days do it with basic tools , i usually use the spanner up ones with the olive inside that clamps to the pipe like http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/281157...-1/s-l1000.jpg just trim the pipe up each end with no burs and fit how ever id also suggest while the mains are off fit a tap in there also so if you ever have to change the dishwasher you dont have to turn the mains of just this one like doing a toilet tank , they now sell small 1/4 turn taps for this type of application
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Right thanks mate.
Taken all on board. Will investigate. I'm selling so I just need a cheap cover up to stop it (it's a useless tap anyway....) so you are suggesting Selleys glues/foam etc and tape over not good enough? (no probs if so) I just want to stop it leaking. Nothing more. |
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As an ex fridgey, I'd say there's no easy fixing that. It's way too close to the bottom solder join for any off the shelf DIY compression fittings like wodahs suggested to fit and seal.
You're going to have to get someone to solder some copper in there I think. |
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I was hoping just to block it up (it's not used.....probably 5 years since tap used. Even if blocks it completely I don't care). I just the water to stop!!! |
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Not Selleys!
Is it a half inch copper line? Go to Bunnies. I/N: 4700159 Kinetic 15 x 150mm Brass Plain All Thread I/N: 4720058 Kinetic 15mm Brass Compres Nylon Olives Pack Of 5 I/N: 4700101 Kinetic 15mm Brass Compression Nut X2 Then it’s just wet Meccano. Cut the original pipe neatly to engage about 20mm each end of the brass, and clean it to nice and smooth with scotchbrite. Put on the nuts, then the olives. Start with your fingers, making sure the brass piece stays centred. Hold the threaded “patch tube” with multis or vise-grips while you firm up the olive nuts. |
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And OEL might be right about difficult access. The picture is hard to get perspective from.
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Extremely informative. I can't do any of that.......literally no idea. |
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All suggestions greatly appreciated.
I should have said I just want the water to stop. I've sold the and was hidden so I literally just want it to stop leaking. If it ruins the tap access to water I don't care at all. Last edited by MercuryT; 23-05-2020 at 07:55 PM. |
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All I know is even if tap off the water still sprays. I can't find anywhere else to stop it. I just want the gap closed on pipe to tap as cheaply as possible. Hence I've had to turn off mains otherwise it sprays everywhere. Yesterday was a complete disaster (hence 300K thread) |
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Post a picture saying what you want. I'm sure a local plumber could do that quite cheaply on their way home from work. Airtasker?
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Here's how to fit an olive fitting to a copper pipe. You should be able to cap it off with a tap or something...
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I'm thinking a Stop Gap glue type product then wrapped in heavy duty tape might stop it....... |
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Remember all the tap is in a stupid spot.
My fault for not explaining. It's not about fixing it properly, just to stop water spraying everywhere and if blocks the tap so be it. |
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Was an outside Dishwasher (yeah....i know) so hasn't been used for years.
So when went to remove this crack happened......the new buyer won't care as heaps of taps close etc |
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No glue or sealer will stop mains water pressure.
If you had an oxy torch then replacing the section of pipe is easy. Sweat the pipe out of the old solder join, solder in a tiny bit of copper - cheap as - if you had the copper and oxy... If you do not, then cut the copper away from the solder elbow join, play mechano with compression fittings and an end cap or valve. Nothing else is going to fix it, don't waste your time with glues, tape and sealants. |
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My suggestion is: Cut the pipe off square as close to the wall as you can. Bear in mind it seems there is a bit of distortion and what looks like a sleeve / join close to the cut. Try and have the exposed pipe as round as possible. If this means some tapping with a small hammer so be it. Buy a regular copper pipe end stop. Put it over the hole but don't bash it in. If there is resistance try and find the part of the pipe that is fouling and tap it in or file down. Get to a stage where the cap end can go on and off freely and can rotate and be removed. Now, rough up inside the pipe, outside the pipe and inside the cap with some course sand paper. Try to plug up the hole 1/2 inch under the opening. Perhaps you can press a school style eraser over the pipe and it will cut through and then lightly tap it down trying to not rotate it. Get the strongest glue / epoxy you can (not gap filler / silicone stuff real strong adhesive - liquid nails??) and fill the end of the pipe flush with the opening. Clean the excess. Allow to cure as per instructions - probably overnight. Using the same epoxy / glue, half fill the pipe end fitting and push it on. Slightly rotating as you put it on will spread it evenly. Make sure you push it all the way down. Wipe up the mess as best you can. Allow to cure. This will probably hold for quite a while - and it will externally appear to be professionally done. If you want to cover it better find some old paint or texta and colour over any bright copper. Now, I know the plumbing and DIY purists will jump on this suggestion and say it's not right and it should be done properly but clearly the OP wants a cheap and easy DIY fix that can be done without help and specialised tools. Oh, and I wouldn't be using the water at any time during this process and as long as you can afterwards.
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If I knew what an Oxy Torch was I'd use it. Mate I'm completely useless and extremely ****ed off this has happened. Thank you. Just shows how stupid I am I guess. |
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My suggestion above is unorthodox but should work.
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If you want to try fitting a capillary cap without heat, Loxeal might do it. Can’t be certain, though.
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ring a mate , surely you know someone who knows someone thatll do it for a box of beer? or just dont be a tightarse and get it fixed /capped properly , atleast get a quote , it not a big job. . your time mucking about on the internet looking for a $3 fix , is surely more than the cost of the fix, thus far
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This is an end cap:
https://www.bunnings.com.au/kinetic-...d-cap_p4880053 Loxeal is a type of glue: https://www.bunnings.com.au/loxeal-5...esive_p4920450 Following on from my suggestion he said this glue may work. Which is why I suggested plugging and sealing the opening first as a preliminary step.
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Wrap with what? There is a reason water pipes are made of copper and joined with solder, or thick plastic and crimped together under great force - because water pressure is very strong and and weak point will leak. Will look like crap of you are suggesting wrapping it with tape or similar. Besides, there is nothing solid actually holding back the water. My suggestion will be a short term fix and if you use the right glue and prep well it will probably hold for several years.
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Seriously mate, for all the messing around, and the fact it will let go while you’re out of the house causing how many thousands of $ damage, call a plumber, it will cost you at least $100, take them 2 mins, and you know it will work.
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