mig welder is this ok

[trevor.d]

Hi guys is this mig good enough for car body work need a mig but not so rich
cheers Trev


http://www.justtools.com.au/prod6792.htm

[ebxr8240]

Yep.. .6 is nice if welding thin panel steel if wire wheel is supplied ??
Just require wheel and tips.. Ohh and wire..

[aussiblue]

Note that it needs a 15 amp power socket.

[trevor.d]

yes a 15 amp plug it is from what i see a 240 volt machine what is the idea of the 15 amp plug is it not possible to run these from a stand ed 240 volt power supply i suppose my question is why don't they just have a 10 amp plug ?
ignore my ignorance i am a bit puzzled nothing unusual lol
cheers Trev

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by trevor.d

yes a 15 amp plug it is from what i see a 240 volt machine what is the idea of the 15 amp plug is it not possible to run these from a stand ed 240 volt power supply i suppose my question is why don't they just have a 10 amp plug ?
ignore my ignorance i am a bit puzzled nothing unusual lol
cheers Trev

Volts and Amps are not the same thing. It has a 15amp plug because it can require up to 15amps of current at 240v(or 3600w).
If it trys to draw that much power from a standard 10amp power point, it can overload the circuit.

But if you are only going to use it for light panel work, then putting a 10amp plug on it probably wont be a problem.

[trevor.d]

Thanks that explains it i,mainly want it for my cars but would like to do a bit around the house as well fernery etc so maybe better to look for something that runs with a 10 amp plug i think i may have just learn t something thanks for that

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Volts and Amps are not the same thing. It has a 15amp plug because it can require up to 15amps of current at 240v(or 3600w).
If it trys to draw that much power from a standard 10amp power point, it can overload the circuit.

But if you are only going to use it for light panel work, then putting a 10amp plug on it probably wont be a problem.

yep this, just modify or change plug.. wont go anywhere near loading up 10 amp circuit doing panel work..

ive banged out nice fat fillets.. 10mm plate using 10amp plug..

[gtfpv]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

yep this, just modify or change plug.. wont go anywhere near loading up 10 amp circuit doing panel work..

ive banged out nice fat fillets.. 10mm plate using 10amp plug..

yes me too , but normally on industrial sites . in your home its a little different , however welding car panels will draw no where near 10 amps .

[Jim Goose]

Changing the plug will probably void your 1yr warranty...

It would be better to simply ask an electrician to wire in a 15amp outlet in your shed.

I have a portable mig welder with a 10amp plug and no dramas, but i also have an arc welder with a 10amp plug and it blows the circuitbreaker after 20 or so secs of continuous use!

The price is pretty good too! A lot cheaper then prices in Townsville, but then freight would bring it up to the same as the shop price im guessing.

[pottery beige]

modified extension cord gets around changing plugs on machine...

[FGII-XR6]

if you don't know what you are talking about please don't give advice on electrical matters do not under any circumstances put on a 10A plug the reason it has a 15 A plus is the welder can not run saqfely on a 10A outlet.

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Volts and Amps are not the same thing. It has a 15amp plug because it can require up to 15amps of current at 240v(or 3600w).
If it trys to draw that much power from a standard 10amp power point, it can overload the circuit.

But if you are only going to use it for light panel work, then putting a 10amp plug on it probably wont be a problem.

[Sprint]

I like my tig welders too much now, use that on almost everything.

[my67xr]

i use a patch lead with my Mig, has a 15amp socket on one end for the Mig to plug into,
500mm of 15 amp wiring and a standard 10 amp plug on the other end for the power point.
caravan shops sell these too, for powering your caravan short term off the mains power.
iirc bunning sell the individual components too

[Pub247]

I have a 10 amp wired onto my 250amp ac/dc tig welder never had an issue in fact my tafe teacher wired it on for me 4 or so years ago. I have had it trip circuit occasionally whilst welding alloy at 200+amps but other than that no probs.

Mine never came with a plug when i bought in fact it looked like it was set up to be hard wired or run 2 phase. But single phase 10amps works no problems. Note it is an invertor welder aswell

[gtfpv]

Originally Posted by au3xr6

if you don't know what you are talking about please don't give advice on electrical matters do not under any circumstances put on a 10A plug the reason it has a 15 A plus is the welder can not run saqfely on a 10A outlet.

not true at all . the reason the welder has a 15amp plug is because it will draw upto 15 amps . the wiring and circuitry in a HOUSE !!! is designed to share loads over multiple outlets , drawing too much current creates heat which can melt wiring .if this were to happen a fire could start . for this reason circuit breakers are fitted to trip before this occurs 15 amp sockets usually have upgraded thicker wiring from the source to the outlet ,and then a higher circuit breaker also, nothng to do with the welder really .

you can always buy a welder with a 10 amp plug , which will run lower amps , ideally suitable for small work . they are 10 amp sockets for a reason .

[Nova 8]

just have a cord with a 15amp female and 10amp male and a 10amp fuse in the middle. if it goes over 10amp the fuse blows and all is well.

[aussiblue]

Note aside from the fact it's illegal, any of the solution to run the 15amp welder through a 10 amp circuit will risk overheating the circuit and a ceiling fire where the damage will not be covered by insurance. And there are plenty of small mig welders available that only need a 10 amp circuit.

[dallasv8]

masters hardware had the 135 amp version of this welder for 275 bucks in the latest catalog.still do anything around home and for a lot cheaper.
and its already got a 10 amp plug and comes with a carry case,gloves and mig pliers

[trevor.d]

Here is the link is this a gas less mig or dual gas - gas less

http://www.masters.com.au/masters/se...ch_results.jsp

[ebxr8240]

The wiring size through house is the same.. It's just that 15 amp outlets have it's OWN circuit with it's own breaker..
As said there's multiple power points per circuit and total load could add up..

Seeing this is a public forum ..
You should get a welding circuit fitted ...

If you fit the adapter plug ??
Fit a 20 amp breaker if fused??

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by trevor.d

Here is the link is this a gas less mig or dual gas - gas less

http://www.masters.com.au/masters/se...ch_results.jsp

gasless is fine for welding budgie cages...

gasless on car panels is crap.. slag inclusions and not a quality weld..

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by my67xr

i use a patch lead with my Mig, has a 15amp socket on one end for the Mig to plug into,
500mm of 15 amp wiring and a standard 10 amp plug on the other end for the power point.
caravan shops sell these too, for powering your caravan short term off the mains power.
iirc bunning sell the individual components too

^^^^ OP take this good solid advice.. people with real world car panel experience... the rest are just banging away on the keyboard......

the sky will not fall down.. monsters will not eat your childrens..





you will go no where near loading up 10amp circuit .6 wire with tiny little tacks..
$10 says the kitchen kettle gives your house wiring a harder time...

[XR227]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

gasless is fine for welding budgie cages...

gasless on car panels is crap.. slag inclusions and not a quality weld..

I would have to agree. I have used one these gasless welders, and the results are not very good. Your better of getting a m.i.g welder with a separate gas bottle, and welding wire for mild steel.

[my67xr]

im pretty sure you cant get .6mm gasless wire?
.8mm minimum, so extra heat, extra buckles, extra spoggy poop,

Lincoln sell a very good Mig welder, a 197 Amp for around $500, plus $200 for the argoshield light gas setup, plus rental

[dallasv8]

Originally Posted by trevor.d

Here is the link is this a gas less mig or dual gas - gas less

http://www.masters.com.au/masters/se...ch_results.jsp

from the info i can find it runs gas and gasless. it doesnt come with a regulator for the gas but so you would need to get the regulator and hose kit seperately.
Wia make a nice small mig,as do Lincoln,which possibly come with a gas regulator.

[trevor.d]

Thanks everyone for all of the advice much appreciated i think i will just go with one with a 10 amp plug avoid any grief because with me if it can it will if you know what i mean lol

[my67xr]

Originally Posted by my67xr

Lincoln sell a very good Mig welder, a 197 Amp for around $500, plus $200 for the argoshield light gas setup, plus rental

^^ should read 170Amp

[pottery beige]

anyone in radelaide have one of these handy....

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Fluke-317...#ht_3109wt_922

crank up the 15amp mig and see just how much it pulls..

[my67xr]

yeah i have one,
might try and suss it tomorrow, im fixing/modifying my sons dune buggy

[my67xr]

just thinking,
i run my Cigweld 180 Amp Mig off a ringgrip 6 way power board, rated at 10 Amps, and at the same time i have 3x 36 Watt fluros running off the same powerboard.
i would be lucky to trip the 10 Amp circuit breaker in the powerboard once a month.