originality???

browser351 · 24-10-2016, 02:55 PM

https://www.australianmusclecarsales...gt-falcon.html

They are wanting big $$ for a full rotisserie restoration to Factory Specs and then put a 4 speed in it?
Kinda defeats the purpose if a person wanted a completely original GT.

Trump · 24-10-2016, 03:04 PM

I'm not seeing a problem here, looks like a proper restoration.

Express · 24-10-2016, 03:18 PM

I think what the OP means is the ID Plate says 'TRANS B' which means it came with a 3 speed T-Bar auto and is now not original.

Trump · 24-10-2016, 03:19 PM

Ahh ok, I missed that little detail.

**FairmontGS** · 24-10-2016, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by browser351

https://www.australianmusclecarsales...gt-falcon.html

They are wanting big $$ for a full rotisserie restoration to Factory Specs and then put a 4 speed in it?
Kinda defeats the purpose if a person wanted a completely original GT.

As long as it's bolt-in and not cut/weld in I don't see a problem with things like this.

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Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

I'm not seeing a problem here, looks like a proper restoration.

Agree.

Express · 24-10-2016, 03:27 PM

I'd much prefer a 4 speed manual but for close to $200k I'd want original and not doctored.

I'd at least want the original trans and auxiliaries thrown in with the package.

Tassie f100 · 24-10-2016, 05:18 PM

Bit sad to see it idling over at 1000 RPM and showing zero oil pressure !!!

**Falcon Coupe** · 24-10-2016, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tassie f100

Bit sad to see it idling over at 1000 RPM and showing zero oil pressure !!!

Not a good look O.o

Considering all other needles are on zero, I'd assume it's not running and the tacho needs calibrating?

Tassie f100 · 24-10-2016, 06:50 PM

Or the engine is cold and the tank is empty

Xauterus · 24-10-2016, 11:57 PM

[QUOTE=FairmontGS;5796009]As long as it's bolt-in and not cut/weld in I don't see a problem with things like this.

Why does it really matter it's cut and welded? It's not like metal can't be replaced and welded back in or we would have to throw away every rusty falcon.

Pedro · 25-10-2016, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Express

I think what the OP means is the ID Plate says 'TRANS B' which means it came with a 3 speed T-Bar auto and is now not original.

Exactly. The OP headline is "originality???" and he's questioning the value, as it's not entirely original.
Having personally sourced and imported six different American muscle cars I think I'm qualified to say there is a difference between original and molested when it comes to price.

Vesper Martini · 25-10-2016, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

Ahh ok, I missed that little detail.

I'll forgive you

ozpacman · 25-10-2016, 09:30 PM

The fact that it has been changed to manual wouldn't really worry me.

This sort of stuff was done over the years and for all we know could have been changed over at a dealership when the car was new. Maybe the person who ordered it couldn't complete the deal for some reason and the next bloke wanted a four slotter?

Okay it didn't come like that from Broadmeadows however it still may be a significant element of the car's history.

All I know is that I'd love to have it in my garage - what a beautiful car!

Russ.

pursuit57 · 25-10-2016, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tassie f100

Bit sad to see it idling over at 1000 RPM and showing zero oil pressure !!!

Ha nice pickup....
Mine use to do that on occasions, a little tap fixed it.
Miss it too, wonder if the low b****** who stole it is finished with it...

CoupeKing · 25-10-2016, 10:30 PM

It's a modification that usually gets the green light. I know of a few X-series GT owners that have opted to do this. That 1 of 1 in Onyx black was originally an auto but swapped with a toploader after the resto?

UTXR8 · 25-10-2016, 10:37 PM

Aussie Muscle Cars...and the 2nd advert is for a 3.9 fairlane....

HO 3 · 27-10-2016, 11:59 PM

Why do these jokers always seem to be using incorrect Yanky Autolite batteries in these restorations.

Cheers Mick

FPV6 · 28-10-2016, 01:05 PM

I don't mind a mechanical alteration, if it can be reversed, Id find an auto 3 speed to put a side if its a all number matching car other then box

I have a mustang thats in Original number matching condition with 351 clevo the clevo at some stage is coming out and on a engine stand to be replaced 460 stroker 572 cubes but ill do nothing that cant be reversed

but that's just me, there are those that will cut tub with out a worry

each to there own i guess

**Silver Ghia** · 28-10-2016, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedro

Exactly. The OP headline is "originality???" and he's questioning the value, as it's not entirely original.
Having personally sourced and imported six different American muscle cars I think I'm qualified to say there is a difference between original and molested when it comes to price.

The change in transmission type in this car has also extended to the engine identification being changed to suit eg. CK608A1 label, can assume the coil tag has been changed as well. Perhaps that could be a cosmetic detail, but along with the Trans B code on the ID plate, its really not strictly correct to be called 'matching numbers', as advertised.

Would be good if all the original transmission, parts, tag etc were supplied as well for the asking price.

zoesgift · 28-10-2016, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HO 3

Why do these jokers always seem to be using incorrect Yanky Autolite batteries in these restorations.

Cheers Mick

mick sheep tend to follow each other mate.....people need to look past the fact it looks like it fell out of a grease gun, stop comparing door gaps etc. THEY NEVER LOOKED REMOTELY LIKE THIS WHEN NEW...its a factory automatic xygt falcon with A LOT of reproduction parts on it. if you want top dollar, and that is for an automatic shaker, (not interested in what it cost to make it look that way) then DO THE RESEARCH and do it right. its a nice car but 190k for an auto shaker....come on. I think most people shelling out 6 figures for a falcon gt would expect much closer to CONCOURSE CORRECT than this for that asking price

Stefan · 28-10-2016, 09:18 PM

There is a reason this has not sold, it literally looks like every Genuine Ford part has been stripped off the car and replaced with reproduction parts.

I hope they own it and someone hasn't rolled in with a Genuine car with genuine parts and they unknowing get back this thing.

The True blue car they did a few years back was the same.

A shame to see them **** car like they are, I heard just the other day.

It'll be bough the someone with money to burn but no idea about GTs...

Stefan · 29-10-2016, 06:08 PM

Deposit taken....looks like it sold already.

Easy to sell a shiny car I guess

Another VF one in SA...as predicted after the Shannons sale there have been several XY GTs hit the market, I can't recall too many in the 2 or 3 years before that.

Waiting for the "investment" to reach maturity I guess.

CoupeKing · 29-10-2016, 06:16 PM

Love the clutch pedal. Straight out of the Murray.

cooprz · 29-10-2016, 07:12 PM

hi,just a quick question, coupeking are you referring to an onyx black gt or phase 3 have b
een in a phase 3 that colour.knew the owner well don't remember it being an auto.
cheers craig

HO 3 · 29-10-2016, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

Deposit taken....looks like it sold already.

Easy to sell a shiny car I guess

Another VF one in SA...as predicted after the Shannons sale there have been several XY GTs hit the market, I can't recall too many in the 2 or 3 years before that.

Waiting for the "investment" to reach maturity I guess.

Looks like colour is King over the fact the car is another Repo Restoration

................the strong interest in the old iron in this presently slow economic environment has been surprising to me.

Cheers Mick

Tassie f100 · 29-10-2016, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cooprz

hi,just a quick question, coupeking are you referring to an onyx black gt or phase 3 have b
een in a phase 3 that colour.knew the owner well don't remember it being an auto.
cheers craig

Well it wouldn't have been a PH 3 if it was auto

Stefan · 29-10-2016, 07:29 PM

Economy is in clusters Mick. Sydney real estate is unbelievable. East coast is throwing money around like nothing matters.

West coasters are doing it tougher.

When I use to sell surplus GT bits it always went to WA. Not anymore.

CoupeKing · 29-10-2016, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cooprz

hi,just a quick question, coupeking are you referring to an onyx black gt or phase 3 have b
een in a phase 3 that colour.knew the owner well don't remember it being an auto.
cheers craig

Yeah you're right. I got all my wires crossed.

Carry on.

cooprz · 29-10-2016, 07:53 PM

hi tassie,was definitely a phase3 & a manual the one of one in onyx black statement differs from what i was told at the time also.owner i knew said there was 2 phase 3 that colour,also remember why it had fairmont door cards from new..... all history now

cooprz · 29-10-2016, 07:58 PM

cheers coupKing