VFACTS November 2012

[bobthebilda]

Some results

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/business...-1226529402894

Toyota Corolla - 4190
Mazda3 - 3703
Toyota Camry - 3144
Toyota HiLux - 3059
Holden Commodore - 2659
Ford Ranger - 2187
Holden Cruze - 2115
Nissan Navara - 2059
Holden Colorado - 1956
Ford Focus - 1920

[Smoke Pursuit]

Good numbers!! Poor old ranger and Focus, supply would see them much higher!! If Ford could supply Ranger it would nearly see 1st place I think!

[turbodewd]

wow, 4 pickups inthe top 10!

Ranger is the 2nd most popular pickup, its a good looking vehicle! No sign of the Amarok :^P

Hopefully it will give the Hilux a run real soon. Hopefully the Falcon & Terri cracked 1000 each for the mth.

[Chopped]

Toyota is kicking butt lately

[stevz]

Originally Posted by Chopped

Toyota is kicking butt lately

The rental companies must be updating their fleets.

[Brazen]

Last month Camry and Aurion combined were the best selling vehicle, I wonder if this month combined if it is number 1 again - I have been seeing new Camrys and Aurions as family cars everywhere.

From $28990 driveaway and 0% finance....money talks.

[Rico 110s]

Ranger not far from out selling Commodore, are there any results for Falcon yet?

[Falcman0o7]

Ranger doing well! Very nice bus.

[4.0i OHC]

Nice to see Focus almost outselling Cruze. Where are all those sales that Holden said would arrive with the introduction of a Cruze hatch?

[Buntz]

Originally Posted by turbodewd

Ranger is the 2nd most popular pickup, its a good looking vehicle! No sign of the Amarok :^P

When compared to the Ranger, it sinks... just likearok.

[Mad_Pom]

Escape 35
Falcon 1206
Falcon Ute 444
Fiesta 894
Focus 1920
Kuga 61
Mondeo 353
Ranger 4x2 623
Ranger 4x4 1564
Territory 1296
Transit 116

[FGII-XR6]

Camry is so high because they are giving the hybrids away to taxi owners to try to kickstart their save the planet hoax . wait till they start to get thousands of batteries to discard , they won't look so green then

[stang65]

Falcon and Terry almost even split. Looks like the Falcon has stabilised. Hopefully it will start to get momentum.

[dimka100]

Whats the YTD figure for falc and terry?

[turbodewd]

Where do the Ford figures come from? Can some1 post the top 20?

[Gobes32]

Local production is perfectly aligned with sales at the moment. The only way to go is up from here, with a little bit of overtime hopefully.............

[Wretched]

Ford sales are chugging along quite nicely.
Good to see Focus and Ranger up where they belong. If only Mondeo and Fiesta could sell a few more.
Ford AU should be happy with this result.

[bobthebilda]

A bit more data from Caradvice

http://www.caradvice.com.au/203896/c...inners-losers/

Top 10 Best-selling Vehicles – November 2012

Toyota Corolla – 4190
Mazda3 – 3703
Toyota Camry – 3145
Toyota HiLux – 3059
Holden Commodore – 2659
Nissan Navara – 2412
Ford Ranger – 2187
Holden Cruze – 2115
Holden Colorado – 1956
Ford Focus – 1920

Top 10 Best-selling Vehicles – 2012 to date

Mazda3 – 39,479
Toyota HiLux – 37,526
Toyota Corolla – 35,256
Holden Commodore – 28,334
Holden Cruze – 27,257
Hyundai i30 – 26,098
Nissan Navara – 23,709
Toyota Camry – 23,644
Toyota Yaris – 16,860
Ford Ranger – 16,459

Top 10 Best-selling Brands – November 2012

Toyota – 19,312
Holden – 10,354
Mazda – 8732
Ford – 8529
Hyundai – 7756
Nissan – 7006
Mitsubishi – 5008
Volkswagen – 4370
Honda – 4005
Subaru – 3212

Top 10 Best-selling Brands – 2012 to date

Toyota – 197,007
Holden – 105,938
Mazda – 94,332
Hyundai – 83,792
Ford – 82,800
Nissan – 72,417
Mitsubishi – 54,786
Volkswagen – 50,152
Subaru – 37,194
Honda – 32,193

[XWGT]

Wow going to be close between Ford and Hyundai for 4th outright for 2012. If the November numbers continue to Decemeber there will be 219 between them at year end.

Toyota have smashed everyone once again.

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[GT014]

Now ford has started advertising falcon, Dec vfacts is going to be very interesting

[turbodewd]

Why are the two top 10 lists different!!??

Ranger is above Navara in one list and below it in the Car Advice list.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by GT014

Now ford has started advertising falcon, Dec vfacts is going to be very interesting

Lets hope they have built a heap in November and can supply... Supply is an on going issue for some models :(


Toyota nearly sells Double anyone else... Unbelievable... Just shows you don't have to build great cars to sell heaps, its more about reputation!

[Peter Macaulay]

Interesting figures.

Toyota's Camry figures just show what cheap money can do for sales (0% finance anyone?). It is also great to see the Ranger selling so well (although how do Mazda's BT50 figures compare?).

Problem, as I see it is that despite the Falcon being a great car, at only 1,000 units being shifted per month, local production surely cannot be sustainable. It will be a great pity to have the horrible American Taurus foisted upon us. If it has to happen, an AWD Mondeo (with auto diesel engine) would surely be preferable as there is not that much difference in size between the Falcon and the Mondeo.

Holden must also be wondering what has gone wrong with the Cruze as the introduction of the hatch has done nothing for total volume. It has actually gone backwards when compared to Mazda3 and Focus. I suppose the general buying public know a good car when they see it.

[Archilino]

Welcome to the forums Peter, just remember you have to include territory and falcon ute sales when talking about local production which at a rough guess is circa 30,000 units per annum. Could well be above that magic number so sustain local production.

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by Archilino

Welcome to the forums Peter, just remember you have to include territory and falcon ute sales when talking about local production which at a rough guess is circa 30,000 units per annum. Could well be above that magic number so sustain local production.

Given that they are spending money on an (2014) update, then the figures that they have must suggest that they are viable...

[Brazen]

Camry/Aurion sales:

October 4310 sales
November 4155 sales

I think some motoring publications are missing a real story here, a large Australian made sedan a top seller. Maybe there is hope for Falcon and Commodore yet... If they are priced right.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Brazen

Camry/Aurion sales:

October 4310 sales
November 4155 sales

I think some motoring publications are missing a real story here, a large Australian made sedan a top seller. Maybe there is hope for Falcon and Commodore yet... If they are priced right.

Just imagine if Toyota had called Aurion the Camry V6 in Australia, it would have that magic +4,000 figure

I'm stoked that Focus achieved 1920, I recon Ford dealers could have sold more if they were available.
Perhaps some keener optioning on Abiente to match Mazda 3 Neo, although I see good deals on Trend....

FYI,
Falcon-Territory-Ute production is now limited to around 3,000-3,200 a month (selling everything they make).

[bigwil]

Does anyone know why toyota seperated the 4cyl camry and the v6 Aurion?

[Peter Macaulay]

Marketing. That's all it is. They just wanted people to believe that they were driving a real Falcon/Commodore competitor rather than a stretched Camry.

Unfortunately, whatever Territory and Falcon Ute sales do, I still believe that Ford as a manufacturer in Australia is doomed. In this brave new world, Ford can no longer afford to have small runs of "orphan" models just for the Australian market.

If, however the American unions "grew up" and recognised what a great car the Falcon (and Territory) are and allowed variants to be sold in sustainable numbers in the US and elsewhere then the thousands of jobs in Geelong and in supplier companies could be saved. That is why Commodore is being a longer lifespan because GM will allow (albeit small numbers) to be sold in America. I just wish Ford would do the same.

[bigwil]

Does anyone know total numbers for falcon and territory YTD?