Good value second hand cars - COVID times, Falcon/Commodore tax - Page 6

Trendseeker · 27-02-2023, 10:50 PM

How about a Ford Sierra RS500 for A$1.06M?

https://www.drive.com.au/news/ford-s...medium=partner

Sprintey · 07-03-2023, 03:15 PM

Indebted Aussies sell off used cars for caaaash

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/202...cars-for-cash/

Note prices of used cars are now falling, on chart in article

Franco Cozzo · 07-03-2023, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprintey

Indebted Aussies sell off used cars for caaaash

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/202...cars-for-cash/

Note prices of used cars are now falling, on chart in article

Glass BBQ brigade Holden enthusiasts, so many LS powered Commodores sub $15K at the moment trying to sell off the pride and joy to keep up the shardy parties.

A very nice one owner WHII HSV Grange sitting at $26K at the moment too, legitimate HSV albeit longboi. Values are always less than their normal sized cousins, I buy my cars by the kilo.

Anyone here looking for a project car with 8 cylinders and doesn't mind flying the rainbow flag out, loud and proud - get onboard the Glass BBQ fire sales for the LS powered Commodore.

I see Falcon ute prices are staying strong.

anobserver · 07-03-2023, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I see Falcon ute prices are staying strong.

Shhhh! Linz might hear you.

smoo · 07-03-2023, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Glass BBQ brigade Holden enthusiasts, so many LS powered Commodores sub $15K at the moment trying to sell off the pride and joy to keep up the shardy parties.

A very nice one owner WHII HSV Grange sitting at $26K at the moment too, legitimate HSV albeit longboi. Values are always less than their normal sized cousins, I buy my cars by the kilo.

Anyone here looking for a project car with 8 cylinders and doesn't mind flying the rainbow flag out, loud and proud - get onboard the Glass BBQ fire sales for the LS powered Commodore.

I see Falcon ute prices are staying strong.

Do you have a link to the Grange? Sounds like a good buy.
This one owner 88k V8 Calais caught my eye, been on the market for a while.
Good buying in a market flooded with bogan skidded up SS and Clubsports.

Franco Cozzo · 07-03-2023, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by smoo

Do you have a link to the Grange? Sounds like a good buy.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...13996136/?Cr=0

One owner, ridgy didge original.

WHII has the bigger front brakes too.

Was the Misso's daily driver, so it should only have a minimum amount of car parking scrapes and damage

**DFB FGXR6** · 07-03-2023, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by smoo

Do you have a link to the Grange? Sounds like a good buy.
This one owner 88k V8 Calais caught my eye, been on the market for a while.
Good buying in a market flooded with bogan skidded up SS and Clubsports.

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First step on that car would be to remove the ridicules exhaust tip/s! Why would someone ruin a Calais by welding some pipe onto the exhaust is beyond me.

**Polyal** · 07-03-2023, 04:27 PM

Predicably prices have dropped and I have noticed more supply. It couldn't last for ever

anobserver · 07-03-2023, 04:56 PM

A lot of sellers have yet to adapt to increased demand. Dealers, too.

We're actively comparing cars for a new daily, and some sales guys flat out refuse to acknowledge the obvious. Even if a place down the road does the exact same car for 2k less.

fgpsi · 08-03-2023, 10:34 AM

Prices still crazy, nobody wants to sell, just trying to milk out every last covid tax dollar (or cent). Absolute muppets

**fordomatic** · 08-03-2023, 09:05 PM

This only got to 15k last night. I know of two manuals that sold for 35k and 33k respectively with 100km on them mid covid. Granted this one doesn't look perfect, but shows the current market.

https://www.grays.com/lot/0001-20074...94Vbg90_WLq7eY

fgpsi · 08-03-2023, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by fordomatic

This only got to 15k last night. I know of two manuals that sold for 35k and 33k respectively with 100km on them mid covid. Granted this one doesn't look perfect, but shows the current market.

https://www.grays.com/lot/0001-20074...94Vbg90_WLq7eY

Did grays try to milk it out for like 2 hours after it was meant to end with fake bidders like what they do with all their other cars ? 😀

fgpsi · 10-03-2023, 11:18 AM

My bro wants to buy a manual 2013 fg xr6 na ute . dealership asking 26k drive away with 170k ks lol. Reckon same car wouldve been $16,000 at the start of 2020. What you reckon he can get it down to ? From past experience dealers don't drop much holding out for the silly bastard who is in need of a car fast. $26,000 is turbo prices lol

**fordomatic** · 10-03-2023, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by fgpsi

My bro wants to buy a manual 2013 fg xr6 na ute . dealership asking 26k drive away with 170k ks lol. Reckon same car wouldve been $16,000 at the start of 2020. What you reckon he can get it down to ? From past experience dealers don't drop much holding out for the silly bastard who is in need of a car fast. $26,000 is turbo prices lol

Don't buy a car like that from a dealer is my first advice. Seen a few around 15-18k lately. Dealer won't drop bugger all, they know they can get good money for utes, it's why they priced it high.

fgpsi · 10-03-2023, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fordomatic

Don't buy a car like that from a dealer is my first advice. Seen a few around 15-18k lately. Dealer won't drop bugger all, they know they can get good money for utes, it's why they priced it high.

Cheapest manual fg xr6 ute with ok kms is $21k on carsales. He wants a manual as hes scared of the zf milkshake and the 5 speed auto is a sh*t box. He is a painter and decorator, I told him to get a van but he loves his utes

**fordomatic** · 10-03-2023, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fgpsi

Cheapest manual fg xr6 ute with ok kms is $21k on carsales. He wants a manual as hes scared of the zf milkshake and the 5 speed auto is a sh*t box. He is a painter and decorator, I told him to get a van but he loves his utes

Sounds like he'll need to get his wallet out then. No way I'd be paying over 20k for an FG N/A ute, but that's me. Good luck.

**Cav** · 03-04-2023, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by fordomatic

Sounds like he'll need to get his wallet out then. No way I'd be paying over 20k for an FG N/A ute, but that's me. Good luck.

Mine has only $78,000 kms

saam · 10-03-2023, 10:06 PM

Im seeing more toys being off loaded now compared to the covid tax.

How long can the tax last for as i am already seeing the drop

roKWiz · 11-03-2023, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by saam

Im seeing more toys being off loaded now compared to the covid tax.

How long can the tax last for as i am already seeing the drop

I see the interest rate hikes are starting to bite and prices are starting to fall.

**FTE217** · 20-03-2023, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by roKWiz

I see the interest rate hikes are starting to bite and prices are starting to fall.

Possibly as saam mentions the "toys" those with quite a few of them maybe lighting up their load more than those with say 1 or 2.

Talking "volume" typical 2hand popular I still see the market pretty good due to new car waits from 6mths to 18mths depending the brand and price bracket.

I just was hunting for a low k euro not wanting to wait so long for a new one and I couldn't believe my bad luck last Thursday, 2 cars went from under my hunt/watch within an hour or so that morning.
Next day another went before I knew it.
The new car shortage/or more so slow supply sure is keeping the 2nd hand market turning over very well.
Sure pricing isn't to what it was not long out of covid but its still pretty strong with buyers here there and everywhere having had discussions with dealers.

hayseed · 02-04-2023, 09:30 PM

There's been some work put into this old car...

https://www.facebook.com/groups/6412...6572586028615/

Franco Cozzo · 03-04-2023, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by hayseed

There's been some work put into this old car...

https://www.facebook.com/groups/6412...6572586028615/

I like the Ecoboost conversion but I don't think it's worth the price tag on that thing, missing four cylinders

It's not original and it's not a coupe, absolute bastardisation, knock off $20K-$25K IMO.

jstanovic · 03-04-2023, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I like the Ecoboost conversion but I don't think it's worth the price tag on that thing, missing four cylinders

It's not original and it's not a coupe, absolute bastardisation, knock off $20K-$25K IMO.

Agree, it's kind of stuck in lala land being a steel bumpered classic but with an unknown/unwanted motor that's only a 4cyl. Shouldn't matter (as it probably still goes like stink) but it does.

Franco Cozzo · 03-04-2023, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jstanovic

Agree, it's kind of stuck in lala land being a steel bumpered classic but with an unknown/unwanted motor that's only a 4cyl. Shouldn't matter (as it probably still goes like stink) but it does.

Yep, I reckon it's a great thinking outside the box example of an interesting conversion. Except it's going to sound like a wet fart down a digeriedoo.

However you don't get to have interesting outside the box conversion AND high resale value

That car is stuck between two worlds

Millennials would appreciate it for what's under the bonnet but they generally don't value steel bumpers.

Boomers value steel bumpers but the nostalgia has been wiped by the bastardisation under the bonnet, even if it was the original six it would be worth more to them, they're not the one continuous eyebrow shututu brigade.

hayseed · 03-04-2023, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I like the Ecoboost conversion but I don't think it's worth the price tag on that thing, missing four cylinders

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I agree with all 3 points...!!
$25-30K is It's value.......In My opinion.

BlueBear · 03-04-2023, 10:38 AM

Personally I disagree, in fact it's a retromod classic I would love to do, having thought about it many times. The XP would not be my personal choice, prefer earlier examples and even better for me would be an early MK 11 Zephyr.
I'm nearly 70 and can only see real benefits of such a conversion.
Steel bumper classic with modern power and economy, drives, stops and handles much better than a V8 conversion, with a very modern 6 speed auto.
As to value, he might be reaching, but doesn't everyone?
And think, FG EcoBoost's wrecks don't grow on trees, it would have cost a lot of $ and time to do and get engineered.
I say, good on him and well done, I hope a few more follow his example.
I reckon it's the way of the future for meeting all emission requirements and having a real classic that performs under the radar (so to speak).

Bossxr8 · 03-04-2023, 11:58 AM

Would have been better off with a Barra 6, keeping with it's straight 6 roots.

**DFB FGXR6** · 03-04-2023, 05:47 PM

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Would have been better off with a Barra 6, keeping with it's straight 6 roots.

Agreed! Even the N/A would make it a rocket ship.

hayseed · 09-04-2023, 08:37 PM

The Covid tax is still alive & well.....

https://www.drive.com.au/news/toyota...medium=partner

roKWiz · 10-04-2023, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hayseed

The Covid tax is still alive & well.....

https://www.drive.com.au/news/toyota...medium=partner

Well. I went against my own prediction and sold one of the Ford Traders as a cab chassis for double the price I bought it for 20 years previously with 1/2 million kms on the clock.

I don't get it.