jay walking

burnz · 14-09-2009, 05:47 PM

police today started handing out tickets for jay walking, rightly so.

for too long has the sydney motorist have dodge people walking willy nilly threw traffic.
why if they done this in the first place instead of penalising motorist with lower speed limits, and revenue.
perhapse the walking public can pickup the tab for the states deficite.

Jason[98.EL] · 14-09-2009, 07:21 PM

About time we see a good thread about what the police are doing rather than the negative crud we see here most the time

well done

InfernoSR · 14-09-2009, 07:28 PM

Any news articles to back that up? i'm sure people will like to see some...

Springfield_Johny · 14-09-2009, 07:32 PM

Police regularly book pedestrians at busy city intersections in Brisbane, they stand out in the open in uniform for all to see, but people still cross against signals and get booked.

Daniel · 14-09-2009, 07:41 PM

I see this in Melbourne CBD all the time; it is blatantly obvious they are there in uniform and people just break the law without a thought.

These people get what they deserve if that is their attitude!

burnz · 14-09-2009, 07:46 PM

i've been waiting for thirty year for the police to inforce this law.

i would have posted a link, but no band width (shaped), but it was on ten news today.
they may have it on ten's web site

Fordman · 14-09-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I see this in Melbourne CBD all the time; it is blatantly obvious they are there in uniform and people just break the law without a thought.

These people get what they deserve if that is their attitude!

It's so bad in the city, If your silly enough to end up on Flinders street station corner, it may take 2 sets of lights to get across even if your the front car.

InfernoSR · 14-09-2009, 07:53 PM

http://livenews.com.au/national/nsw-...09/9/14/219334

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NSW police crack down... on jaywalking

This should happen all day, every day.

Pedestrian Council President Harold Scruby

Sydney jaywalkers are being warned they'll be caught and fined as part of an upcoming police operation.

Jaywalking could cost you $56 dollars during the NSW Police’s Operation Obedience.

Officers are cracking down on pedestrians crossing illegally between Parramatta and Campbelltown.

Acting Assistant Commissioner Peter Lennon says there are black spots in that area.

But Pedestrian Council President Harold Scruby says the crackdown should be more widespread.

“This should happen all day, every day.”

He says people distracted by ipods or mobile phones are to blame for an increase in the number of pedestrian deaths.

Iggypoppin' · 14-09-2009, 08:03 PM

I'm sick of this here in Adelaide but it's mostly dimwits on their pushbikes just trying to beat the traffic. No helmet, middle finger to the traffic and often close to the cars. Give these fools the fine and get them off the ROADS and onto the SIDEWALK where they belong.

Yellow_Festiva · 14-09-2009, 08:11 PM

About time... had several near misses in the city where people are talking to a friend, or on the phone, or listening to music and just step out on the road and carry on their merry way thinking that if your only doing 40-50 you can stop in time should they get the timing of their walk compared to your speed wrong.

JG66ME · 14-09-2009, 10:50 PM

What a nanny state.

vztrt · 14-09-2009, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JG66ME

What a nanny state.

I think you'll find you live in one mate.

Vic has been doing this for a few years now (going on a jay walking blitz).

JG66ME · 14-09-2009, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by vztrt

I think you'll find you live in one mate.

Vic has been doing this for a few years now (going on a jay walking blitz).

And you sir are correct.

Yet there are no laws protecting me from the cyclists who ride like maniacs down Normanby Road foot paths as I walk to work from the car park.

1LOUDXFUTE · 14-09-2009, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 76txcoupe

I'm sick of this here in Adelaide but it's mostly dimwits on their pushbikes just trying to beat the traffic. No helmet, middle finger to the traffic and often close to the cars. Give these fools the fine and get them off the ROADS and onto the SIDEWALK where they belong.

isnt it illegal for bike riders to ride on the sidewalk?

JG66ME · 14-09-2009, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 1LOUDXFUTE

isnt it illegal for bike riders to ride on the sidewalk?

It should be. Sanctioned on the busy road my offices are located.

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Cycles belong on THE ROAD. not he side walk.

Tuddy200 · 14-09-2009, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JG66ME

And you sir are correct.

Yet there are no laws protecting me from the cyclists who ride like maniacs down Normanby Road foot paths as I walk to work from the car park.

Actually, from memory their is? Cyclists are only allowed on 'shared' footpaths or unless they are under 12 years of age... now I don't have a reference to any of that but I am sure could be found.

I still don't understand why for being 1KM over the limit we pay $100's, yet, jaywalking only carry's $56? Both could meet the same outcome, death.

However, I am glad this is happening, and wish Ballarat would have blitz on it. We have two streets with two pedestrian crossings within 10M's of each other and we still have many people walking through taffic, into a major bus stop mind you.

JG66ME · 14-09-2009, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 76txcoupe

IGive these fools the fine and get them off the ROADS and onto the SIDEWALK where they belong.

Disagree 200%

They should be on the roads and they should obey the rules.

Side walks are for WALKERS. Just like they are in the rest of the civilised world.

JG66ME · 14-09-2009, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuddy200

Actually, from memory their is? Cyclists are only allowed on 'shared' footpaths or unless they are under 12 years of age... now I don't have a reference to any of that but I am sure could be found.

I still don't understand why for being 1KM over the limit we pay $100's, yet, jaywalking only carry's $56? Both could meet the same outcome, death.

Mate, believe me, they are doing works to the "Shared Path" next to the tram lines and have diverted cyclists onto the pedestrian walk rather than the road.

These people have no regard for anyone but themselves and would run you over in a heart beat.

bonspeed · 14-09-2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 1LOUDXFUTE

isnt it illegal for bike riders to ride on the sidewalk?

Side walk? are we in America......Its called a foot path.

JG66ME · 14-09-2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bonspeed

Side walk? are we in America......Its called a foot path.

Foot path it is then.

Tuddy200 · 14-09-2009, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JG66ME

Mate, believe me, they are doing works to the "Shared Path" next to the tram lines and have diverted cyclists onto the pedestrian walk rather than the road.

These people have no regard for anyone but themselves and would run you over in a heart beat.

I agree, as always you get some bad cookies in every bunch. I'd say whoever has diverted them from the shared path to the footpath should be sternly told about the laws regarding cyclists on footpaths.

Iggypoppin' · 15-09-2009, 12:00 AM

Woops.. I meant the bike lane for bikes, sidewalk for pedestrians. Was in a bit of a hurry. Sorry.

dave289 · 15-09-2009, 04:40 PM

I see many new australians in my area with know idea how to cross the road safely ,they even paint "look" on the road with an arrow pointing in the direction to look for these people to look but they step striaght out without even looking. now sometimes i cross the road against the lights but look to see what the lights are doing so I know i can make it across safely, most other dopes cross against the lights but dont look to see what the lights are doing and then step striaght out as the lights are about to change.yes there are many dopey aussies out there to mainly the young who have no idea how to cross but the new austarlians "so to speak" are absoltely shocking.
ps. I am just stating my opinion which in this case can be taken as fact.

tranquilized · 15-09-2009, 05:30 PM

[QUOTE=Tuddy200]
I still don't understand why for being 1KM over the limit we pay $100's, yet, jaywalking only carry's $56? Both could meet the same outcome, death.

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I guess the theory is if your speeding you increase the risk of death for another person, if you jay walk you increase the chance of only your own death.

But the point has been made, Australia is a nanny state, big time.

onfire · 15-09-2009, 05:42 PM

Quick, get the jay-walkers, while our cities turn to with violence. Nice work.

burnz · 15-09-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by onfire

Quick, get the jay-walkers, while our cities turn to with violence. Nice work.

it only turn to violence because motorist are sick of blood, dents, frustration
trying to go where they need to.
i beleive it's called road rage.

Iggypoppin' · 15-09-2009, 06:53 PM

I'd rather watch the police try and manage all areas(as they do now...). They are trying to stop deaths!! Obviously painted signs doesn't work. Pleading doesn't work. So be it, they cop a fine. Wouldn't it be nice if the deaths stopped? Because of the fines? All worth it then. They can still crack down on violence, but they can't ignore the deaths at the same time.

Tuddy200 · 16-09-2009, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by onfire

Quick, get the jay-walkers, while our cities turn to with violence. Nice work.

I always think their should be less of a focus on so much 'hoon' proganda but seriously, you cannot expect the police to stop enforcing half the laws just to go and double up on the others?

No body wants tax hikes on anything, yet everyone wants more police on our roads and streets, I think it's unfair to think the police have all the power to solve these problems, we are the ones that break the law, we have the power to do the right thing, so maybe if we put up and all abided by the law then taxes would go down!

RG · 16-09-2009, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuddy200

However, I am glad this is happening, and wish Ballarat would have blitz on it. We have two streets with two pedestrian crossings within 10M's of each other and we still have many people walking through taffic, into a major bus stop mind you.

Pfft, we need no blitz. Just drive like everyone else up here, eyes closed and foot on the accelerator giving no care to anyone or anything around you.

That's the Ballarat way!

VSSII · 16-09-2009, 09:29 AM

Opening post failed to highlight the reason for the blitz in NSW. SMH said the other day pedestrian deaths had risen from something like 34 last year to 54. Of course someone is going to ask for something to be done. I could look for the article/link but...... meh. I remember this article because of the topic and the fact Scruby wasn't mentioned anywhere in it.