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05-01-2015, 07:04 PM | #1 | ||
Ford screwed the Falcon
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So what are the final numbers? I hear both Ford and Holden have had their worst year in almost a quarter of a century.
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05-01-2015, 09:43 PM | #2 | ||
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Well things are looking good for Ford across the pond over in NZ, with Ranger the best selling pickup finally ending Hilux's 32 year sales leading streak.
Ford Ranger takes out Hilux for top-selling ute of the year Last edited by The Stylist; 05-01-2015 at 09:51 PM. |
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05-01-2015, 10:00 PM | #3 | ||
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I would expect a few more Falcon sales while dealers register stock. May be ~900?
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05-01-2015, 11:56 PM | #4 | ||
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Lol Falcon will be around 450.
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06-01-2015, 01:52 PM | #5 | ||
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Apparently its 740 sales.
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06-01-2015, 01:55 PM | #6 | ||
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I think you will find that's FGII and FGX combined. Still more then what I thought they would sell
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It was asked what the Falcon sales were, not FGX sales.
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06-01-2015, 02:05 PM | #8 | ||
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06-01-2015, 02:50 PM | #10 | ||
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Fixed it for you.
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06-01-2015, 03:03 PM | #11 | ||
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Which begs the question, how does Holden "keep" those sales post VF departure. In other words, once local production closes Holden needs a model to retain 30,000 units of volume. Will be interesting as full import status and being "Australia's own" will be a tough sell and large Rwd cars are rare in the GM world. So who has the better future post shutdown, Ford or Holden?
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06-01-2015, 03:17 PM | #12 | |||
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06-01-2015, 03:41 PM | #13 | ||
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Falcon 578 for Dec and 6,349 for the year
Commodore 2,009 & 30,203 Territory 783 & 9,828 I'll work on the stats and get them up as soon as possible. Cheers Russ
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06-01-2015, 03:42 PM | #14 | |||
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And the right marketing strategy when the all new overseas models arrive could produce amazing sales given the majority of people who purchase new motor vehicles are not hung up on performance and will generally believe a good publicity blurb. |
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06-01-2015, 03:58 PM | #15 | |||
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Are they importing a marketing department too? |
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06-01-2015, 05:08 PM | #16 | |||
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06-01-2015, 05:26 PM | #17 | ||
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I'm predicting a huge aftermarket parts industry surge as tens of thousands of Falcon and Commodore fans keep the old girls on the road for decades to come.
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06-01-2015, 05:37 PM | #18 | ||
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One of those was mine
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06-01-2015, 07:41 PM | #19 | ||
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06-01-2015, 08:07 PM | #20 | ||
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The first set of graphical statistics are now uploaded to the Tech Portal and can be found HERE.
I'll probably do the annual ones next but that will be sometime tomorrow. Cheers Russ
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06-01-2015, 08:10 PM | #21 | ||
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Considering Ford only has 1 sales winner (Ranger) its surprising they are still in the top 5 overall.
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06-01-2015, 08:15 PM | #22 | ||
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Seems as though Ford have gone from being the "Falcon" car company to the "Ranger" car company. With class leading products in nearly all of the main market segments, why cant Ford have success across the range rather than just the one model.
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06-01-2015, 08:47 PM | #23 | ||||
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I was referring to the marketing of the new Holden product, not Ford. I don’t have a great faith in Ford marketing but that may change when they get rid of the Falcon around their neck. Quote:
For sure and my point was Holden are yet to show their hand on what they’ll bring in an attempt to hold onto the Commodore market including the V8 brigade. Plus the V8 market share as a percentage of the whole motor vehicle market is only small. I would expect a lot of their new product to be aimed at mums and dads in the SUV sector. |
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06-01-2015, 08:48 PM | #24 | ||
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Is the as long as we can sell those 578 Falcons a month at a profit per unit philosophy now dead in the vfacts post
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06-01-2015, 09:03 PM | #25 | ||
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You need to ask yourself then why hasn’t Focus / mondeo and Kuga taken of ?.
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06-01-2015, 09:10 PM | #26 | ||
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Well considering the only Falcon ad on TV I have seen for as long as I can remember has been a dealer one, I doubt anyone knows there is a new Falcon out.
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06-01-2015, 09:19 PM | #27 | ||
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Sad sign of the times...
Past 6 months Falcon Jul - 493 Aug - 442 Sep - 467 Oct - 396 Nov - 411 Dec -578 Total - 2787 Aurion Jul - 468 Aug - 406 Sep - 424 Oct - 405 Nov - 339 Dec - 867 Total - 2907 |
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06-01-2015, 09:37 PM | #28 | ||
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The Ford brand is toxic in this country.
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06-01-2015, 10:21 PM | #29 | ||
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Actually, I don't think it is - I know a few non-car people who have bought Focuses in the last year or so. They bought the car on merit/price.
IMHO, the Ford brand is no longer a "go to" brand the way it was 30-40 years ago when the question was "Are you a Ford or a Holden man?" Now, it's just another brand amongst the many in this country, and has to compete on price/quality/marketing on an equal footing with all the rest. Sometimes, I wonder whether Ford Australia (and its dealer network) have realised buyers are not automatically going to come to them.
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06-01-2015, 10:38 PM | #30 | ||
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We are in a day and age where image is everything.
You arnt going to impress your neighbours, facebook morons, workmates etc by buying a Ford. If people have $50k burning a hole in their pocket they are either buying an SUV, dual cab or a Euro. Mustang will change this as it will suddenly be cool to be seen in a Ford again, time will tell whether its image will brush off onto other Fords.
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