RTA has completed its Intelligent Speed Adaptation trial

[Full Noise]

More crap from the NSW RTA.

God help up if garbage like this is forced upon us.

http://motoring.ninemsn.com.au/cars/...-89-successful

[GS608]

...time to emigrate

[Linkachu]

Mandatory on P plate cars?

[Ford_The_Win]

That's a little bit scary...

[Grippy]

It was only a matter of time until something like this surfaced. Sadly, I can see this becoming compulsary on new cars one day

[phillyc]

This was my response.

So, forget about the speeding myth. The government wants you to believe 30% or more of all fatalities involve speeding and gouge the public for nearly a billion a year across Australia.

But, "The RTA believes that if the ISA system were used by all motorists in New South Wales, there would be an approximate 8.4 percent reduction in fatalities and a 5.9 percent drop in injuries."

So, effectively it is travelling above the speed limit which causes 8.4 percent of fatalities according to their own figures. Where they get the 30% figure from is the box getting ticked by the crash unit or police officer at the crash scene with asks if speeding may have been a contributing factor. Which doesn't actually mean they were above the posted limit. Therefore, by educating drivers with proper courses and training, they could more safely drive to conditions and most likely reduce deaths by a huge margin.But, there simply isn't the revenue in it to do so.

[XRGhia]

Oh for **** sakes... What's the rta gonna try to do next? Control Who we talk to or maybe, how we sleep?

/end smalles rant ever

[XRGhia]

Oh for **** sakes... What's the rta gonna try to do next? Control Who we talk to or maybe, how we sleep?

/end smallest rant ever

[Kryton]

I suggested a similar idea over 5 years ago - even then i said it was only a matter of time before it is mandatory and YOU have no control over it.

[rancidpunx]

When will the baby sitting end. Seriously whats next? No cooking incase you get food poisoning, no sex unless you get an STI, no drinking in case you get drunk, hell no wearing trousers in case you fall over whilst putting them on. When you can run the country and economy right then you can waste time with crap like this.

[jj6789]

Why don't we all hand in our licenses and go back to horse drawn transport, but wait we will probably need a bloody license for that .

[Bucknaked]

Why on earth would governments want to restrict people speeds. How much revenue do they reap in now from traffic offences. They are biting the hand that feeds them. Not only that, but how to they manage the control of the vehicles speed limit when they up and down the speed limit of area's where road works are underway. School zones and tunnels and major road like in sydney.

I would be all for this system if they stopped speeding drivers around schools and in shopping centre car parks.

[OzJavelin]

The driver is alerted by both visual and auditory feedback, and if they continue to exceed the speed limit, the system will automatically restrict engine power until the vehicle returns to the allowed speed.

I wonder who determines "how long" for exceeding the speed limit? A Getz passing a road-train would take a LONG time .. could mean a nasty accident. I'm basically all against something which relies on a computer to artificially control the throttle (or steering) on a vehicle. Over the course of their relatively short operational lifespans most computers would make a lot more unrecoverable stuff-ups than a human ..

[Bucknaked]

Just wondering whether tuners will have the ability to remove the limiter or alter it like they do now.

[Grippy]

Originally Posted by Bucknaked

Just wondering whether tuners will have the ability to remove the limiter or alter it like they do now.

Good question, tuners may be inundated with new clients wanting a tune...

[tweeked]

Originally Posted by Grippy

Good question, tuners may be inundated with new clients wanting a tune...

That is even scarier - I am sure any tune will be Illegal on a car set up with this.

[Linkachu]

Originally Posted by jj6789

Why don't we all hand in our licenses and go back to horse drawn transport, but wait we will probably need a bloody license for that .

Then there will be taxes for blokes to clean up the horse poop

[mik]

pretty amuseing is`nt it, they are blowing money on this crap, yet they let roads get like this........ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxTiZWATrqA

[Grippy]

Originally Posted by tweeked

That is even scarier - I am sure any tune will be Illegal on a car set up with this.

Most custom tuned cars are illegal, they wont pass emmission laws

[AWD Chaser]

So what if these come in and the road toll doesn't drop... Or even increase... Will the govt finally admit that speeding isn't a majority killer?

Does this also mean that CTP insurance will reduce?

[Grippy]

Could this possibly spell the end for speed camera in the future if this technology is adopted for all registered cars?

[Fev]

No, thats when the spin doctors earn their cash

[Kryton]

Originally Posted by Grippy

Could this possibly spell the end for speed camera in the future if this technology is adopted for all registered cars?

Sure will.
Instead of speed cameras, you will automatically be issued a speeding fine when the GPS detects that you are speeding.

Id rather the speed cameras myself - they cant be everywhere, unlike a GPS 'nanny'

[flappist]

There is one problem with this.

If the system takes control away from the driver then the driver cannot be held responsible for any consequences as they are now just a passenger.

And we all know just how infallible computer control systems are.....Airbus anyone?

[blockhead83]

Well if it does become compulsory I can guarantee it will be in Victoria first.

But to “test” it first it’ll be installed as automatic fine issuing machine, drift over the limit by 3k’s 10 times in one week and enjoy your licence suspension and thousands in fines. People will be begging for the one that actually stops you from speeding.

This will end up being all about revenue if they use it for anything.

God it makes me sick

[aussie muscle]

Originally Posted by davway

Id rather the speed cameras myself - they cant be everywhere, unlike a GPS 'nanny'

i'm sure no one in that test did knowingly speed once they realised that the RTA would see their logs. ok, a fine for you for last week when you over took a bus load of nuns in a school zone..... ... also it wouldn't take long for the RTA to work out where people are doing the speeding and put a camera there for those who don't have the device.

Originally Posted by Bucknaked

how to they manage the control of the vehicles speed limit when they up and down the speed limit of area's where road works are underway. School zones and tunnels and major road like in sydney.

the device will need to be in contact with a database to find out what limits/roads have changed (like they do with speed traps). of course, that means it can tell them if you've been speeding at the same time.

[flappist]

One other small problem is that ADRs are Federal not State so the NSW wombats cannot implement anything by themselves.

e.g. Victoria and the 130km/h maximum speedo cunning plan.

[FPV8U]

I really hope Australia "Mans Up" and says no to this system, while we all want to see fatal accidents reduced systems lik this are costly and not the answer.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by flappist

e.g. Victoria and the 130km/h maximum speedo cunning plan.

Autometer can solve that problem for a small fee.

I can solve the GPS speed limiting issue, foil anyone?

[trippytaka]

Never going to happen - never see the light of day after this test. If they introduced this there would be a black whole in the NSW government coffers the size of... well, it'd be big.

They simply can't afford to ACTUALLY bring in technology that will stop them raising revenue from speed cameras etc. This is all just lip service to "increasing driver safety." Pffft!