Why Do ISIS Use Toyotas ??

csv8 · 10-10-2015, 04:56 PM

"Toyota has spoken with U.S. officials about the prominent use of its vehicles by militants in Syria, Iraq and Libya.

Toyota trucks are conspicuous in extremist propaganda and are often what carry Islamic State group fighters into war with large caliber weapons affixed to truck beds.

The company says it maintains "a strict policy to not sell vehicles to potential purchasers who may use or modify them for paramilitary or terrorist activities."

The Treasury Department's Terrorism and Financial Intelligence wing monitors monetary transfers and the flow of goods that could aid militants, and an abundance of any company's product being used by extremists would draw attention.

Yet such inquiries are often part of a more comprehensive look into how money and material flows in areas of strife where militants operate.

Toyota released a statement that suggested just such an inquiry.

"We are committed to complying fully with the laws and regulations of each country or region where we operate, and require our dealers and distributors to do the same," the company said.

"We are supporting the U.S. Treasury Departments broader inquiry into international supply chains and the flow of capital and goods in the Middle East."

The Treasury declined to comment Wednesday on any specific inquiry.
"In line with our usual approach to understanding ISIL's financial and economic activities, we are working closely with foreign counterparts and stakeholders worldwide," the Treasury Department said in a printed statement, referring to the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.

While there are procedures in place to help prevent its products from being diverted for unauthorised military use, according to Toyota, the company says that it's impossible for it or any automaker to control the channels through which its vehicles can be misappropriated, stolen or resold by third parties."
https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/wh...W4tQVU-;_ylv=3

simon varley · 10-10-2015, 06:05 PM

why do ISIS use Toyotas? Because there's **** loads of them around. I'm sure they don't buy them, they just take them when the previous owners no longer have a use for them

Franco Cozzo · 10-10-2015, 06:06 PM

And here people are thinking that the Ford Everest is going to snap the Prado in sales

Even ISIS use Toyota 4x4s, its that damn reputation again, they're the Allah of 4x4.

wodahs · 10-10-2015, 06:23 PM

maybe because there almost as easy to steal as a holden but more practicable and useable

**Giant Cranium** · 10-10-2015, 06:36 PM

one of my neighbours had a 3 month old 79 cruiser that was stolen, the cops came and said 'no point searching, it will already be in a container' they would all have to be stolen but what authority over there would be game enough to stop them

marty351 · 10-10-2015, 07:38 PM

How do they service them? Assuming they do,and can Toyota shut them down by satellite if they can identity offending vehicles?

**Giant Cranium** · 10-10-2015, 07:55 PM

i don't think they would be too worried about logbook stamps.

XR Martin · 10-10-2015, 07:57 PM

Most, if not all are petrol ones I think you'll find.

Oh remember this one? Guy in the US F250 was stolen and they found it looking like this

XB GS 351 Coupe · 10-10-2015, 07:58 PM

Most vehicles used by these people are stolen in places like Australia, (Sydney south west metro is popular for this) and then they ship them to the middle east in containers.

I thought this was common knowledge, been going on for years.

What do people think happens to all the stolen hilux utes??

XB GS 351 Coupe · 10-10-2015, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by marty351

How do they service them?

Are you serious??

What do you think happens to these, they take them to the Toyota dealer for log book servicing and warranty repairs.

They drive them till they blow up and get another one, most modern cars will easily do 50-100k KM without a service before they even think about giving up. I remember working with a guy who did over 60,000km without a service and car was still going strong.

ford man xf · 10-10-2015, 08:05 PM

Why are there no TV's in Afghanistan? Because of the taliban

LG17 · 10-10-2015, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

Most vehicles used by these people are stolen in places like Australia, (Sydney south west metro is popular for this) and then they ship them to the middle east in containers.

I thought this was common knowledge, been going on for years.

What do people think happens to all the stolen hilux utes??

If that's the case why do they bother converting them to LHD?

XB GS 351 Coupe · 10-10-2015, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

one of my neighbours had a 3 month old 79 cruiser that was stolen, the cops came and said 'no point searching, it will already be in a container' they would all have to be stolen but what authority over there would be game enough to stop them

It does not matter, no one knows if a car is stolen or not overseas, the police are lucky if they communicate across state borders within Australia, no way a vehicle will show up stolen internationally.

Thats why Harley's used to be hot property for theft, they used to steal them in Australia, fill up a container and ship overseas and sell them. Then they used to refill the container in the other country with bikes stolen there and send it back, a mate of mine got sold a Harley stolen in the US through a Sydney Bike shop on Parramatta Road that is no longer there. Some time in the late 90's from memory they started a 'World Wide Harley Register' for stolen Harley's, stopped the Harley theft almost instantly.

XB GS 351 Coupe · 10-10-2015, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LG17

If that's the case why do they bother converting them to LHD?

They would be the ones stolen in the US I would guess.

wodahs · 10-10-2015, 08:18 PM

can I get warrenty

wodahs · 10-10-2015, 08:19 PM

you think most of them get to live long enough to need servicing

**Giant Cranium** · 10-10-2015, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Most, if not all are petrol ones I think you'll find.

Oh remember this one? Guy in the US F250 was stolen and they found it looking like this

image

i remember reading about that car, what i read was that he traded it in then it eventually found its way over there, he had heaps of call threatening him and had to change his number

wodahs · 10-10-2015, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

i remember reading about that car, what i read was that he traded it in then it eventually found its way over there, he had heaps of call threatening him and had to change his number

surprised it was able traded with company signage on it

**Giant Cranium** · 10-10-2015, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by wodahs

surprised it was traded with company signage on it

from the story the dealer was meant to remove it but didn't

**Giant Cranium** · 10-10-2015, 08:36 PM

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...syria-jihadist

sprint347dave · 10-10-2015, 08:38 PM

why do ISIS use Toyotas? Because that's what the CIA supplied them with.

Iggle Piggle · 10-10-2015, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wodahs

can I get warrenty

Depends. Don't bull**** them by booking in for them to look at an issue with cruise if it has just been hit by a cruise missile.

danzvtil · 10-10-2015, 08:51 PM

Because when youre on your way to a beheading, you cant be late because of an unreliable 4x4.

But seriously, this is an unfortunate association for Toyota to have, and they really have no control over.

Perhaps they should drive VWs because the emissions will kill you eventually.

**Jastel** · 10-10-2015, 09:00 PM

Because you cant mount a .50 cal on a camel....

Eaturbo · 10-10-2015, 09:22 PM

Can see it now, ISIS at a Toyota dealer trading in car. " one owner company car with log books, mainly country miles. Just had new tray due to Bullet holes"

wodahs · 10-10-2015, 09:56 PM

to hell with forgetting to take business signage off when trading

ok ok you have a sale but included in the trade of my vehicle and in the transaction off sale please remove and refit to new vehicle the fifty cal

CoupeKing · 10-10-2015, 10:40 PM

All these militants rogue groups or woteva have been rolling around South America, Africa and the middle east in Toyota Utes for decades.

Yellow_Festiva · 10-10-2015, 11:52 PM

Guy on the radio said that when customs / dock workers inspect containers they make sure that they cross reference the paperwork with the vehicle and that's it.

There is no connection with police / RMS / Insurance anything to see if it is reported as stolen.

If that is true it is a bloody joke.

No way they are shipping em out as plane cargo!

gossy · 11-10-2015, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

They drive them till they blow them up and get another one.

Fixed that for you.

Crazy Dazz · 11-10-2015, 01:56 AM

Same reason they %@#$ Goats