Ecoboost V6 Accounts for 36% of all F150 Sales

[jpd80]

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When gas prices hit $4 per gallon in the past, pickup sales suffered as a result. We have to wait until April sales are released to know how much truck sales have been hurt by the latest spike at the pump, but it's clear that the Ford F-150 is getting a big boost from its turbocharged V6.

Automotive News reports that 36 percent of all F-150s are equipped with the optional EcoBoost V6, which costs between $750 and $1,750 depending on the model. What's more, the EcoBoost model is reportedly accounting for 40 percent of all F-150 orders, and there is currently a scant 13-day supply of the boosted trucks.

Traditionally, full-size truck buyers have been more inclined to opt for larger V8 engines, but the 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 appears to have changed some minds. The mill's V8-like 365 horsepower and 420 pound-feet of torque means that capability won't be compromised, while fuel economy rises by up to 20 percent. The Environmental Protection Agency gave the boosted F-150 a 16 mile per gallon city rating and a 22 mpg rating in highway driving.

At the same time, Ford claims a maximum tow rating of 11,300 pounds with an EcoBoost-equipped F-150, depending on the model configuration. For comparison's sake, F-150s that come with the 411-hp, 6.2-liter V8 can also tow 11,300 pounds, but fuel economy tops out at only 18 mpg in highway driving.

With the EcoBoost F-150 off to a rousing start, the next big question is whether the boosted V6 has staying power in the event gas prices drop back down to more normal levels. We'll have to wait and see, but with power and capability that matches other trucks in the F-150 lineup and a significant fuel economy savings, we can't see why not.

Wow, looks like Ford USA is on a winner with the Ecoboost V6 F150,
higher fuel prices will sort the men from the boys.....

[phillyc]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Wow, looks like Ford USA is on a winner with the Ecoboost V6 F150, higher fuel prices will sort the men from the boys.....

Given the penchant for modifying over in the US. Wonder how many have bought them as cheap to mod?

Whatever reason, they are really selling well and helping to cement the F Truck sales lead

[Iggypoppin']

I knew this was going to be a good thing. Go ecoboost!!!

[mik]

ecoboost ftw !

[Joe5619]

So, Ford US have done a great job in convincing people V6 Ecoboost is as good as the V8... Lets people Ford Aust can do a great job in convincing people I4 Ec boost is as good as V/I6!!

[Falcon_Crazy]

Originally Posted by Joe5619

So, Ford US have done a great job in convincing people V6 Ecoboost is as good as the V8... Lets people Ford Aust can do a great job in convincing people I4 Ec boost is as good as V/I6!!

true - couldnt agree more

[Road_Warrior]

So there is actually more to Ecoboost than just a turbocharged direct injection engine isn't there??

[Airmon]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

So there is actually more to Ecoboost than just a turbocharged direct injection engine isn't there??

Think its how they run such low boost, and the CGI block. Other then that not sure what else is so special. Still sounds like a good motor. And 34% thats bloody huge!! I wonder what Fords initial expecations were, 10%? 15% at best?

[Buntz]

Originally Posted by Airmon

Think its how they run such low boost, and the CGI block. Other then that not sure what else is so special. Still sounds like a good motor. And 34% thats bloody huge!! I wonder what Fords initial expecations were, 10%? 15% at best?

It's lean burn combustion. Igniting a mix containing more air then fuel of conventional percentages. Basically the twin scroll turbo spools up to provide that precise amount throughout the entire rev range.

[FPV GTHO]

Ive read somewhere the 3.5 Ecoboost is designed to perform like a 6.5L NA engine.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Buntz93ED

It's lean burn combustion. Igniting a mix containing more air then fuel of conventional percentages. Basically the twin scroll turbo spools up to provide that precise amount throughout the entire rev range.

Thats the same prinicple as a diesel engine yes? More air than fuel?

[Buntz]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

Thats the same prinicple as a diesel engine yes? More air than fuel?

Dunno.... is it?

[chevypower]

It is amazing what GTDI has done for the industry. BMW's have always been naturally aspirated (and insisted it would never do turbocharging or supercharging), Mercedes was intent on supercharging over turbocharging, and you never would have imagined a turbo-gasoline engine in an American pickup truck, when the market dictated nothing but large displacement engines. We'll know when everyone's converted when Ferrari gets in to it. Never say never! Oh crap, why did I just think of Justin Bieber?

By the way, the EcoBoost F150 is fantastic to drive. I have an older 5.4, and I drove them both on the same roads, and the EcoBoost made mine feel pretty slow, loud, unrefined, and very thirsty. Mine can still pull hard down low though, but so does the EcoBoost.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by chevypower

It is amazing what GTDI has done for the industry. BMW's have always been naturally aspirated (and insisted it would never do turbocharging or supercharging), Mercedes was intent on supercharging over turbocharging, and you never would have imagined a turbo-gasoline engine in an American pickup truck, when the market dictated nothing but large displacement engines. We'll know when everyone's converted when Ferrari gets in to it. Never say never! Oh crap, why did I just think of Justin Bieber?

By the way, the EcoBoost F150 is fantastic to drive. I have an older 5.4, and I drove them both on the same roads, and the EcoBoost made mine feel pretty slow, loud, unrefined, and very thirsty. Mine can still pull hard down low though, but so does the EcoBoost.

I wonder if Ford will ever try a smaller Ecoboost V6, one about 3.0 liters would give
360 lb ft and over 300 hp at 5,000, I think it could just about ape the old 5.4 3V's
torque curve while using about as much fuel as a 3.7 V6 - a future strategy?

very impressed with how many new F Truck buyers are signing up to the V6 models,
it shows that Ford have done a bang up job of convincing buyers that the V6 can give
plenty of pulling power and great fuel economy, I hear Ecoboost stock is down to 18 days supply...

[Brazen]

Originally Posted by jpd80

I wonder if Ford will ever try a smaller Ecoboost V6, one about 3.0 liters would give
360 lb ft and over 300 hp at 5,000, I think it could just about ape the old 5.4 3V's
torque curve while using about as much fuel as a 3.7 V6 - a future strategy?

very impressed with how many new F Truck buyers are signing up to the V6 models,
it shows that Ford have done a bang up job of convincing buyers that the V6 can give
plenty of pulling power and great fuel economy, I hear Ecoboost stock is down to 18 days supply...

Would the EcoBoost therefore be the biggest selling model if its getting 36%? Off the top of my head isnt there 4 engines? seeing how popular EcoBoost is, i couldnt help but wonder that a diesel in their lineup would sell quite well too.

3.7 V6
5.0 V8
EcoBoost
6.2 V8

[Road_Warrior]

That's what the 4.4L "Lion" V8 TD is for.

[chevypower]

Unfortunately there are no confirmed plans for the 4.4 TDV8 in a Ford vehicle. It would make sense, but it is only in the Range Rover right now, and although made in North America, does not comply with US emissions standards. I assume it doesn't require diesel exhaust fluid in the 2011 Range Rover. Stick it in the F-150, Super Duty, and Expedition, and it will sell like hotcakes. It would make these vehicles global contenders too.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Airmon

Think its how they run such low boost, and the CGI block. Other then that not sure what else is so special. Still sounds like a good motor. And 34% thats bloody huge!! I wonder what Fords initial expecations were, 10%? 15% at best?

It's high compression, high boost 12-16 psi and lean burn on boost all controlled by a very
sophisticated software than varies cam timing and uses exhaust gas recirculation to control detonation..

Ford have two V6 plants in the USA, Cleveland No 1 is set up for the RWDs and Cleveland No. 2 for the FWD/AWDs.

While Ford seem openly pleased about the sales level of V6 engines, i think there's a lot of relief behind closed doors.
Putting a V6 in your best selling truck when V8s are selling like gang busters sure is a big call but it looks like Ford
have pulled off an amazing change in buyer demographic with the new engines and caught the ultimate upswing...
right when fuel prices are climbing, so too are F Truck sales. Well done Ford.

[Buntz]

Originally Posted by Brazen

Would the EcoBoost therefore be the biggest selling model if its getting 36%? Off the top of my head isnt there 4 engines? seeing how popular EcoBoost is, i couldnt help but wonder that a diesel in their lineup would sell quite well too.

3.7 V6
5.0 V8
EcoBoost
6.2 V8

According to Ford's website, the NA 3.7L just edges out better fuel economy. But way more power and torque. Baffles me why they bother offering the 3.7L.

[Buntz]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

That's what the 4.4L "Lion" V8 TD is for.

How about an EcoBoost Coyote?

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Buntz93ED

According to Ford's website, the NA 3.7L just edges out better fuel economy. But way more power and torque. Baffles me why they bother offering the 3.7L.

It's interesting looking through the city/hwy fuel figures and you're right Buntz,

3.7 4x2: 17/23
EB 4x2: 16/22
5.0 4x2: 15/21
6.2 4x2: 13/18

Real world highway running 90-110 in the traffic = 10.2, 10.7.11.2 and 13.1 l/100km respectively

3.7 4x4: 16/21
EB 4x4: 15/21
5.0 4x4: 14/19
6.2 4x4: 12/16

Real world highway running 90-110 in the traffic = 10.7.11.2, 12.4 and 14.7 l/100km respectively

What customers are buying is a vehicle that is now pretty efficient for a truck that's 2.5 to 3.5 tones
in weight, the big difference is the towing capacity available. Blame it all on the need to meet CAFE.

If you look at the 6.2 Vs Ecoboost 3.5, you get a picture of just how far Ford has come in a short period.
The 6.2 replaces the 6.8 V10 which was bigger, heavier and thirsty piece of kit restricted to Super Duty.
The 5.0 does not have the same outright towing capacity as the EB 3.5 or 6.2 but does well all the same..

[Rodge]

Wow 420 lb ft of torque x 1.34 = 563nm compared to the regular inline six turbo here of 533nm.

You have to look to the specially tuned FPV F6 to match the ecoboost's torque so this new ecoboost engine looks like a super peice of kit especially with its superior fuel economy.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Rodge

Wow 420 lb ft of torque x 1.34 = 563nm compared to the regular inline six turbo here of 533nm.

You have to look to the specially tuned FPV F6 to match the ecoboost's torque so this new ecoboost engine looks like a super peice of kit especially with its superior fuel economy.

Bear in mind the scales of economy the Americans have, they can spend huge on development because
they sell approx 18,000 Ecoboost V6 engines a month where as FoA are lucky to sell 4,000 I6Ts a year.

[Buntz]

Originally Posted by Rodge

Wow 420 lb ft of torque x 1.34 = 563nm compared to the regular inline six turbo here of 533nm.

You have to look to the specially tuned FPV F6 to match the ecoboost's torque so this new ecoboost engine looks like a super peice of kit especially with its superior fuel economy.

It is indeed a powerful engine. More like 570nm's. This is in Truck tune mind you. For the RWD/4WD application.

In the Taurus it's only putting out 474nm's.

It would be interesting to see the figures of the 4.0L I6 with EcoBoost tech.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Buntz93ED

It is indeed a powerful engine. More like 570nm's. This is in Truck tune mind you. For the RWD/4WD application.

In the Taurus it's only putting out 474nm's.

It would be interesting to see the figures of the 4.0L I6 with EcoBoost tech.

I did a quick extrapolation of F Truck Ecoboost 3.5 to 4.0litres:
650nm from 1700 to 4000 and 300 Kw @5000, now that would pull like a tractor in a Super Duty F250...

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Buntz93ED

According to Ford's website, the NA 3.7L just edges out better fuel economy. But way more power and torque. Baffles me why they bother offering the 3.7L.

Cost and nothing more. Deleting the turbo, intercooler and plumbing plus the direct injection stuff would probably chop a good few grand off the RRP.

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by jpd80

I did a quick extrapolation of F Truck Ecoboost 3.5 to 4.0litres:
650nm from 1700 to 4000 and 300 Kw @5000, now that would pull like a tractor in a Super Duty F250...

Add a bit extra for the torque inherent in an I6 and you've got a ball tearer.

I wonder how that experimental Barra I6 diesel went...

[Elks]

The real question is why can't we get one here??

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Elks

The real question is why can't we get one here??

Thought the F-Truck was LHD only now?

[trippytaka]

I was really glad to see that news come through...