Covid 19 -

[russellw]

137 new cases for Australia (mostly in Victoria) and no deaths so CMR drops to 1.224% and active cases rise to 946 (10.8%). SA records 6 new cases.

3 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.435% and active cases rise to 21.

The UK recorded 516 new cases and 2 deaths yesterday so the CMR drops to 15.493%.

Just over 45k new cases in the USA yesterday and 254 deaths sees CMR down to 4.507% and active cases down to 52.6% but the raw numbers are rising. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
The USA completes 37M and Russia 21M tests;

Algeria (441), Dominican Republic (1,241), Philippines (2,424), Mexico (6,914)recorded new daily highs, those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

[T3rminator]

Hermmmmm

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/...06-p5599t.html

"Dr Jefferson believes that many viruses lie dormant throughout the globe and emerge when conditions are favourable. It also means they can vanish as quickly as they arrive."

Isn't this what Donald Trump has been claiming all along? "One day, it will just disappear"

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Hermmmmm

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/...06-p5599t.html

"Dr Jefferson believes that many viruses lie dormant throughout the globe and emerge when conditions are favourable. It also means they can vanish as quickly as they arrive."

Isn't this what Donald Trump has been claiming all along? "One day, it will just disappear"

Im not a Donald lover, but because its DT, people poo poo anything his says. But if it comes from some with a "Dr" before their name, then we take everything that person says on board without question. As far as we know, DT could have gotten his information from a Dr. But haters will find anything bad to pin on DT regardless.

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by blueoval

Im not a Donald lover, but because its DT, people poo poo anything his says. But if it comes from some with a "Dr" before their name, then we take everything that person says on board without question. As far as we know, DT could have gotten his information from a Dr. But haters will find anything bad to pin on DT regardless.

I am more interested that he and his cronnies might know more than they are letting on. It is no secret that DT is a germaphobe. Has been all his life, and I remember it was first brought up when he started "The Apprentice". But he is not worried about CV19 one bit. Either he has already had the vaccine or......cue conspiracy theory.

[Cav]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

I am more interested that he and his cronnies might know more than they are letting on. It is no secret that DT is a germaphobe. Has been all his life, and I remember it was first brought up when he started "The Apprentice". But he is not worried about CV19 one bit. Either he has already had the vaccine or......cue conspiracy theory.

The fact that he takes hydroxychloroquine throws your theory out the window

[PhilT2]

Originally Posted by blueoval

But haters will find anything bad to pin on DT regardless.

I've just finished John Bolton's book about his time in the White House. I also have a copy of Michael Wolff's book about the start of the Trump presidency. It;s not just the haters who criticise Trump, many who went into his administration as allies have come out as vocal critics of his poor management skills.
A crisis, such as the current one, will always highlight the weaknesses in a leaders skills. Many are still waiting to hear the details of Trumps health policy in detail, especially how he plans to deal with the next pandemic. Or how to manage the economic recovery from this one.

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by PhilT2

I've just finished John Bolton's book about his time in the White House. I also have a copy of Michael Wolff's book about the start of the Trump presidency. It;s not just the haters who criticise Trump, many who went into his administration as allies have come out as vocal critics of his poor management skills.
A crisis, such as the current one, will always highlight the weaknesses in a leaders skills. Many are still waiting to hear the details of Trumps health policy in detail, especially how he plans to deal with the next pandemic. Or how to manage the economic recovery from this one.

I agree, the management of the pandemic is very questionable to say the least. I think this has gone against him for Novembers running a bit.

My comment was more towards anything prior to Covid. The choices he has made during Covid though has really undermined whatever credibility he had left.

[marty351]

Cronies are democrats.

[blueoval]

NSW-Vic border to close tomorrow

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by blueoval

NSW-Vic border to close tomorrow

Some Qld politician was talking on the abc radio a few days ago about re evaluating the opening of the Qld/NSW border, he said it would probably depend how NSW handled the 'Victoria lssue'.......

I guess it's been handled.

[Franco Cozzo]

So I was saving my annual leave at work and now I've got about 5 weeks banked that I can use but can't go anywhere and will probably have forced on me at Christmas so I can sit at home and do nothing

Mexican lockdown sucks.

Is Greece still opening its borders to us? Might go to Greece if Sydney won't let me in

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-...virus/12323460

[PhilT2]

A mate was one of a dozen or so of the staff let go from the IT section of a fairly big outfit about a month ago. He got an interview last week and the interviewer apologised for the delay in getting back to him. Apparently they had 1200 applications to sort through.

Maybe it's going to take awhile before things get back to normal.

[CoupeKing]

[Bossxr8]

The irony of Victoria being the hardest locked down state to start with.

[marty351]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

The irony of Victoria being the hardest locked down state to start with.

Now we know how Hong Kong feels atm.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by marty351

Now we know how Hong Kong feels atm.

Thank god we are still free to criticize the government. Cause it's feeling pretty good to do atm

Going back into lockdown is inevitable I think. Just hope they limit it to melbourne, and not drag all the covid free towns outside the capital with it. This is strictly a Melbourne problem.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Thank god we are still free to criticize the government. Cause it's feeling pretty good to do atm

Going back into lockdown is inevitable I think. Just hope they limit it to melbourne, and not drag all the covid free towns outside the capital with it. This is strictly a Melbourne problem.

Locking down all of Melbourne it seems as of 15 mins ago.

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

Locking down all of Melbourne it seems as of 15 mins ago.

Minimum 6 weeks.....

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

Locking down all of Melbourne it seems as of 15 mins ago.

A bitter pill to swallow for us Mexicans again.
Kinda makes the previous stage 3 lockdown pain all a waste as we scramble to keep the numbers down again. People need to understand that we are in a control phase and it needs to be maintained until a vaccine. Easing restrictions seemed to be a license for everyone to go about their normal business with a lessened sense of safety. I just hope all the other states learn to manage their restriction strategy better than we did.

I’m off to find toilet paper now.... seems the moron hoard mentality is alive and well again. @)(;:!ck

[russellw]

87 new cases for Australia (mostly in Victoria) and 2 deaths so CMR rises to 1.235% and active cases rise to 1,060 (12.3%). It should be noted that the 6 cases attributed to SA yesterday were actually WA. Victoria is also already at 197 new cases thus far today and has set a new high for active cases with 645, surpassing the 622 recorded back on March 31st. It should be noted before the interstate rivalry starts again that this is still well below the NSW peak of 1,577 back in April and only about half the rate per 100k of population.

1 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.434% and active cases rise to 22.

The UK recorded 352 new cases and 16 deaths yesterday so the CMR drops to 15.48%.

Just over 54k new cases in the USA yesterday and 283 deaths sees CMR down to 4.434% and active cases down to 52.4% but the raw numbers are rising. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
The USA passed 3M cases;
Libya (71), Uzbekistan (342), Venezuela (419), Algeria (463), Ghana (992) and Panama (1,185 today, 1,166 yesterday)recorded new daily highs, those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

[russellw]

We were almost caught by the decision to close the VIC/NSW border earlier than originally planned for those living in the Greater Melbourne area as that closure took effect at midnight last night whereas for the rest of Victoria, the closure takes place from midnight tonight.

We had someone who was planning to travel from Melbourne to Sydney organised to transport something for a friend of theirs today but instead I drove up this morning and met them in Wodonga even though I could have crossed the border being outside the GMA. The 6 hour notice yesterday caused a bit of rapid planning and a little more time would have been nice.

[MercuryT]

I've been getting stuck into Vics a bit but genuinely feel sorry about the news.

The Country is affected as a whole bit not at near same extent, so hope can get back on track asap.....

[blueoval]

Theres been recent cases of the Bubonic Plague in China its been reported.

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by blueoval

Theres been recent cases of the Bubonic Plague in China its been reported.

Yes. Reports emerging in the last couple of days suggest a link to Marmot meat.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...ncern/12428978


And that's not all. About a week ago, another virus with pandemic potential nicknamed "G4" discovered in China. Linked to swine flu.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/spotlights/2...swine-flu.html

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Yes. Reports emerging in the last couple of days suggest a link to Marmot meat.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...ncern/12428978


And that's not all. About a week ago, another virus with pandemic potential nicknamed "G4" discovered in China. Linked to swine flu.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/spotlights/2...swine-flu.html

Wow... I'm shocked! So totally unexpected...

[Tickford.]

This 'Victorian virus' needs a name. I think I shall call it... COVIC-20.

It'll probably spread Australia wide, and all other states will blame Victoria. When the truth of the matter is, they are probably in a similar situation - but did not test their people as much as Victoria has been doing. Easier to blame someone else.

[MercuryT]

Going to very interesting when borders reopen.

Tassie people are basically living as normal now as basically no risk of getting infected. Pubs are packed, no-one is adhering to distancing etc.

Would just need a NZ like idiotic border stuff up and the whole thing goes out the window.

[buggerlugs]

[QUOTE=MercuryT;

Tassie people are basically living as normal now



Geez, when did that happen ?

[MercuryT]

[QUOTE=buggerlugs;6462812][QUOTE=MercuryT;

Tassie people are basically living as normal now



Geez, when did that happen ? [/QUOTE]

Paradise here!

Bit cold admittedly

[MITCHAY]

What a cluster****. Even with the border closing and restrictions imposed again there is a good chance that it has already been spreading elsewhere.

Apparently ACT still going ahead with reducing restrictions on Friday.

The next 2 weeks or so will be interesting.