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Cobblers!
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: The Shire, NSW
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![]() Holden isn't in a much better position to do anything. Ford cancelled the Fairlane, not because it wasn't a good car, because it was, but because it was selling in numbers that make local production a loss making venture, and any future development un-viable. Statesman is falling to Fairlane like numbers, and, if they can make if off shore, where they can make money, they will. Don't think that just because Holden make it in Australia today, that they will continue to tomorrow. By the way, the Buick Park Avenue is not any more hand assembled than your precious Commodore or Cruze is. It is sent to China in a box, and is constructed in much the same way as it would in Australia, just that the component manufacturers closer, and they don't need to go through Australia first.
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#182 | ||
Pity the fool
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Although in fairness, one of the reasons the Fairlane in BA and BF guise performed so poorly in the sales race (compared to the Stato) was that it resembled the bog standard Falcon. Had it had different styling then the outcome may have been different. Notwithstanding the general shift away from LWB cars and investment in the segment of course.
People don't want to be paying 70 large for a luxury car that resembles a fleet hack.
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Regulator
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Melbourne
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Yeah, but AU Fairlane was completely different from the AU Falcon and that still didn't help it's cause. I thought it was a decent car.
WH Statesmans looked very similar to their VT Commodore counterparts, but still sold well.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2009
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That AU Fairlane was a terrible, terrible, terrible looking thing.. Worse than the AU itself!! What in gods names where they thing with the whole AU lineup?? That thing was never going to sell while against a very nice looking statemen..
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#185 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Canberra Region
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I know on Cops im pretty sure ive seen a variation of the paddy wagon in Los Vegas to pick up the drunk and disorderlies at the strip (the word Paddy wagon is American anyway)
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#186 | |||
Cobblers!
Join Date: Mar 2005
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The AU Fairlane was a fine car, as was the BA Fairlane. I think the problem for Local Long Wheel Based cars, is that, for the same money, you can get a BMW, or Mercedes-Benz, or Audi, with better build quality, more fruit, and that warm fuzzy feeling that only European models can give you. The locals don't stand a chance.
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#187 | |||
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern Suburbs Melbourne
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AU statto looks good IMO, the statto looked bland like the BA/F Fairlane.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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I liked the AU fairlane, much nicer looking than the newer ones. Stood out a bit.
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Bunbury WA
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Haven't seen any discussion about what exactly they mean by a more progressive launch profile... saw this interpretation in the local paper yesterday Quote:
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#191 | ||
Got Ghia?
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Perth
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The B-series and the FG's IIRC don't have a equal ratio of pedal to TB movement. The first part of the pedal has a greater effect on the TB opening than the last part.
EG 30% Accelerator might equal 50% TB opening. I like the sound of the DFSO - in the work BMW (Diesel) looking at the instant economy gauge, as soon as your off the pedal it drops right back to 0. As opposed to my BF when you accelerate and back off and the instant consumption hangs and takes a few seconds to drop back to idling levels. |
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#192 | |||
Regular Schmuck
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Was happy to get back in my XR8, at least the throttle application feels a lot more linear, even if the ratio is out. |
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Flairs - Truckers Delight
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Brisbane Northside Likes: Opposite Lock
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Rodp, i had the same experience with a Tiida work car i had. 15% throttle application seemed to provide about 60% TB opening. Whiplash city.
I think a linear throttle is a good thing. Good and right throttle response is a seldom-achieved art in carmaking. Biggest failure in throttle response i've ever driven was a VZ Commodore, as it were.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Throttle repsonse obviously has a big impact on fuel consumption too!!
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Adelaide
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i quite like the instant throttle reponse on the FG as apposed to my AUXR8, it makes sense as most of the time when youre stop starting in traffic and you get used to the amount of pressure you need to apply.
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#197 | ||
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Melbourne
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So now that we've seen what the 50th anniversary models will look like, hopefully some of the small styling cues will also feature on the updated non-anniversary models.
'Edge' to replace 'Ego' sounds like the same transition from 'Mercury Silver' to 'Silk'.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Melbourne
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It's nearly July and not much on here that I could find about the updated Falcon.
Any further details about wheel changes or similar? I'm guessing they'll start to appear in showrooms in a few weeks.
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