First drive - Ecoboost!! - Page 6

4.0i OHC · 17-04-2012, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by barra240t

- Fantastic power and torque as soon as you put your foot down
- Kickdown is just as good as a 6cyl
- From launch, I personally think the little ecoboost sounds tops with the window down
- Very, very quite and smooth

I feel the exact same way after extensively driving an Ecoboost Mondeo. The flat torque 'curve' just makes the car so drivable. Sounds great too (although not quite as smooth as the I6). Who needs a V6?

prydey · 17-04-2012, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by barra240t

Cons:

My only one con is no sports model, no XR, no SR, no S pack etc. I'm not an XT, G6 driver. I like a sporty looking car, what can I say.

i don't find that a 'con' at all. i think its a massive positive. i think they should go one further and delete the 6cyl petrol as std equipment from the XT and G6. maybe keep it as an option but it wouldn't worry me if it wasn't even an option. this would once again offer a point of difference between the xr6 driveline and the other models.

the xr6 already sells well. ecoboost is about increasing sales, not just replacing existing ones. i think its a good move.

mike_nofx · 17-04-2012, 06:15 PM

Dont think P platers would be legally able to drive the ecoboost in NSW anyway. I wonder if having ecoboost only models will restrict sales?
I suppose P platers dont account for many new car sales tho anyway.

Would insurance premiums increase with it being a turbo?
eg XT with ecoboost cost more to insure than XT n/a I6?

jpd80 · 17-04-2012, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 4.0i OHC

I feel the exact same way after extensively driving an Ecoboost Mondeo. The flat torque 'curve' just makes the car so drivable. Sounds great too (although not quite as smooth as the I6). Who needs a V6?

I have the same feeling and have said elsewhere that falcon could split in two and become EB 2.0 and 5.0 V8 covering everything needed.
The EB 2.0 offers the huge jump in economy needed to win a new generation of Falcon fans while the 5.0 would keep the existing ones..

Buntz · 17-04-2012, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

I have the same feeling and have said elsewhere that falcon could split in two and become EB 2.0 and 5.0 V8 covering everything needed.
The EB 2.0 offers the huge jump in economy needed to win a new generation of Falcon fans while the 5.0 would keep the existing ones..

perhaps in NA form. But Turbo I think can find a gap in there. Besides the venerable name that is 'XR6'.

jpd80 · 17-04-2012, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Buntz93ED

perhaps in NA form. But Turbo I think can find a gap in there. Besides the venerable name that is 'XR6'.

I have a soft spot for the six but if the market swings away from it, I'm happy for Coyote to be there...
Funny how the NA V8 actually fits into the engine bay better and without a bonnet bulge either..

But back on topic,
I think a change of name for the EB Falcons to XT, Zetec and Titanium would fit better with the mostly Euro showroom..

kinksta · 17-04-2012, 08:10 PM

I am waiting for someone to buy one, tune it, a get a popping cannon exhaust out the back! Exciting times for Ford!!

Buntz · 17-04-2012, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kinksta

I am waiting for someone to buy one, tune it, a get a popping cannon exhaust out the back! Exciting times for Ford!!

Yeah... I also feel this coming. Even if one person does it. Said person would probably be ethnic though... have lots of money (plenty in gold chains), and drop it on 22's or something ridiculous. I'd love to see it... but detest it at the same time. "Awwww maayate izzz fulleh sick ayy?"

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Originally Posted by jpd80

I have a soft spot for the six but if the market swings away from it, I'm happy for Coyote to be there...
Funny how the NA V8 actually fits into the engine bay better and without a bonnet bulge either..

But back on topic,
I think a change of name for the EB Falcons to XT, Zetec and Titanium would fit better with the mostly Euro showroom..

Coyote is surprisingly fuel efficient too. Time for Ford to slot in an 8 speeder like the 300C.

barra240t · 17-04-2012, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

i don't find that a 'con' at all. i think its a massive positive. i think they should go one further and delete the 6cyl petrol as std equipment from the XT and G6. maybe keep it as an option but it wouldn't worry me if it wasn't even an option. this would once again offer a point of difference between the xr6 driveline and the other models.

the xr6 already sells well. ecoboost is about increasing sales, not just replacing existing ones. i think its a good move.

Its my opinion, not yours. I like the engine, not the spec. Guess you don't always get what you want!

kinksta · 18-04-2012, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Buntz93ED

Yeah... I also feel this coming. Even if one person does it. Said person would probably be ethnic though... have lots of money (plenty in gold chains), and drop it on 22's or something ridiculous. I'd love to see it... but detest it at the same time. "Awwww maayate izzz fulleh sick ayy?"

I wasn't thinking that, it just opens a new opening into Falcon mods. May bring a different crowd, but it is exciting.

There are a few FGs on here on 22s, nothing new...

csv8 · 18-04-2012, 12:11 AM

Only fruit juice and milk comes in 2 litres..not falcons.....

kinksta · 18-04-2012, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Only fruit juice and milk comes in 2 litres..not falcons.....

And how good is fruit juice and milk?

robertjp · 18-04-2012, 06:20 AM

depends if you don't have allergies.

jpd80 · 18-04-2012, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Only fruit juice and milk comes in 2 litres..not falcons.....

Just be grateful we still have a Falcon to talk about, that 2.0 EB might just end up saving it....

Franco Cozzo · 18-04-2012, 06:50 AM

Ill be laughing when I see a FG Falcon on the front cover of HOT 4s magazine with a skimpy dressed young lady with complimentary moustache draped over the car.

barra240t · 18-04-2012, 11:42 AM

would another pro be resale value??

Smoke Pursuit · 18-04-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Only fruit juice and milk comes in 2 litres..not falcons.....

A G6 Limited edition Ecoboost would be just up your ally wouldn't it? Cheaper fuel, cheaper rego, near as much power as your Fairmont Ghia, and better equiped.

Chilliman · 18-04-2012, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

I have a soft spot for the six but if the market swings away from it, I'm happy for Coyote to be there...
Funny how the NA V8 actually fits into the engine bay better and without a bonnet bulge either..

But back on topic,
I think a change of name for the EB Falcons to XT, Zetec and Titanium would fit better with the mostly Euro showroom..

I like your thinking. I'd just add the 2.7Litre V6 Turbo-diesel as a third engine option to cover all bases. Maybe that's an engine we could start manufacturing here?

superfly · 18-04-2012, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Only fruit juice and milk comes in 2 litres..not falcons.....

Haha I used to get this when I had my WRX. I would highly consider a XR6 with ecoboost engine if I didn't have my XR50. Just the $150 a year in rego savings would be worth it.

Only cheap wine comes in 5L.

4.0i OHC · 18-04-2012, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chilliman

I like your thinking. I'd just add the 2.7Litre V6 Turbo-diesel as a third engine option to cover all bases. Maybe that's an engine we could start manufacturing here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc

barra240t · 19-04-2012, 08:05 AM

I just read a bulletin that P-platers will be allowed to drive an ecoboost in VIC because it has a Power to Mass of less then 130kW. Other states are suppose to be following. Good news for P-platers.

blueoval · 19-04-2012, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by barra240t

I just read a bulletin that P-platers will be allowed to drive an ecoboost in VIC because it has a Power to Mass of less then 130kW. Other states are suppose to be following. Good news for P-platers.

I can also see a cult following of P-platers wanting to 'mod' & 'tune' these while still on their P's too.

flappist · 19-04-2012, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by barra240t

I just read a bulletin that P-platers will be allowed to drive an ecoboost in VIC because it has a Power to Mass of less then 130kW. Other states are suppose to be following. Good news for P-platers.

QLD already has and we also allow the 210kw SV6 Holden.

Seduce XR6 · 19-04-2012, 11:42 AM

I wonder what this engine would tune to safely

blueoval · 19-04-2012, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Seduce XR6

I wonder what this engine would tune to safely

Depending on fuel type, I'd take a guess at 200-220rwkw. But it's purely speculation. Won't know till a tuner gets their hands on one.

It will be interesting to see if P platers find this car a better option over something else just as popular.

barra240t · 19-04-2012, 12:35 PM

Our Ecoboost all sticker'ed up!

TheSneakiness · 19-04-2012, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Only fruit juice and milk comes in 2 litres..not falcons.....

Waaa waaaa waaaaaaa...

FFS get with the times and stop living in the prehistoric.

superfly · 19-04-2012, 12:48 PM

I definitely have to lock in a test drive of one of these.

It will be interesting to see if the rentacar companies will buy these over the XR6.

barra240t · 19-04-2012, 01:18 PM

Just thought of another advantage, there is no upfront premium with ecoboost, meaning you don't pay extra like you do for a diesel or lpg engine. It is a no cost option.

Smoke Pursuit · 19-04-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoval

Depending on fuel type, I'd take a guess at 200-220rwkw. But it's purely speculation. Won't know till a tuner gets their hands on one.

It will be interesting to see if P platers find this car a better option over something else just as popular.

I reckon 200 rwkw is pretty optimistic...