FPV confirms new V8 for 2010

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Originally Posted by boris

If the 5l is as good as all the talk says it is, then there shouldn't be a need to supercharge it. The only reason that I can imagine FPV/FordAU would want/need to use forced induction would be if it does not have enough torque. We like our Falcons torquey, hence why the turbo i6 does well, it's not the outright power that's important, which seems to be the reason the holden chev does well, excepting they opt for cubes. While s/c 5l is nice the Hurricane/Boss 6.2l would be better, shame it's so heavy, but as my wife keeps telling me 'there is no substitute for inches!'

Very rarely do manufacturers make decisions based on what is the best to offer the consumer, not in a pure sense anyway.

What is being spoken of here is a separation of the remaining V8 business case. Once you separate that case it weakens both unless you have substantial sustainable volume to support it.

We are seeing each and every day the depths of scrutiny Ford are placing on business cases. It’s a very volatile environment.
It’s not a question of if Ford US can supply a crate V8 for the Falcon XR8 it’s more a question can Ford US supply a crate engine for FPV. The current Boss program works backwards not forwards.

Parts sitting on a shelf are more cost effective for FPV than crate engines sitting on the floor. It’s a massive advantage in overheads as I understand it. It’s actually a very lean, keen way to go about business but it is underpinned by volume. Everything is. Losing Ford as a customer would create difficulties FPV would have to explore and over come. A possible example of that would be the GS and GT-H names. One such situation would be to lower FPV’s own entry point or raise the askings of the remaining products. That would cause issues for Ford and so the fight begins. What is the best overall business case to support.

From Ford’s perspective importing a crate engine for just the XR8 would not be as cost effective as increasing the models with V8s in them but if you do that where will the sales come from. If they are conquest sales then that works in the plus column but if they are IN6T sales then that undermines the importation case and might have further implication on any concurrent cases justifying the prolonged retention of the IN6. In the latter situation not only have Fords own interests been weakened but they have hurt FPVs case at the same time.

Back at FPV, going to Mr Eaton with projections of 3000 units is going to be better than 2000 units. Volume drives costs down making the entire case more cost effective. The flip side is that it is potentially damaging to the FPV brand.
What if FPV aren’t using the heads we think they are for a FI application? With each point of separation another nail gets driven into the respective sides of the case.

The longer one talk’s the deeper it goes. At face value there would be very strong reasons to support the existing structure as it is the safest and most conservative approach to take given the current climate.

To extrapolate further would require a pretty in-depth understanding of what Ford are seeing and how they are interpreting that information.

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Hasn't Rod Barrett already said that the new V8 will be assembled here?

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Originally Posted by OZQUAD44

sounds like we have some interesting times ahead of us, not sure if i like the sound of the whole V8 range being S/C, so much for weight reduction. But if these puppies live up to the hype, there will be a lot of happy FORD/FPV fans out there.

Huh?

Superchargers don't really weigh that much, and a supercharged alloy V8 would still come in a fair bit lighter than the current Boss, which is just extremely heavy. Heavier than big blocks of old.

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Yes -essentially so