If a "Middle aged White male" BOO's in the forest, is he still a RACIST???

[Trump]

Originally Posted by Geez Louise

I already scream that about Volvo, Camry and Peugot drivers.

Fixed that for you

[xxx000]

Originally Posted by castellan

No the fact is that the word Aboriginal is the original native of that place and once you put another non native then the true sense of the word is that one is not an aboriginal.

One as such, is of part aboriginal decent and their is noting wrong with that at all and because facts are facts and it's all good if they shear in the love of and the respect of the dignity of the true culture.

But what I am saying is I do not respect seatrain white people with a little bit of such claiming to be something that they are not and especially when they try to destroy their culture with Political Correct cunning dog acts.

What the PC crowd are trying to do is destroy the true culture and they do nothing but destroy and it's this type of PC mob that started with their communist dictating filthy ways of pushing people around. they are very cunning like snakes bro, as they can turn everything upside down in giving them only 10 or 20 so years, sadly people just follow them blindly with the trend of the given years, because they have no foundations is the problem and I fear that give them lot another 20 years and the trend will reject all aboriginality to nothing.

You believe what you want, but I know the evil workings of the Political Correct maggots. they will build you up and then, only to cut you down for their own ends.

Get an education. It'll help you to spell and also to realise how disgustingly bigoted you are towards aboriginal people.
Your 'test' of aboriginality is some magical % of a persons defendants. So using that idea an extended family would get together and some members would be aboriginal and some wouldn't.
Your whole attitude disgusts me more than words can express.

[Tex Scrotum]

Thought I'd repost the true meaning of RACISM;
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
"theories of racism"
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

I've always seen ones race as a part of ones individualism.
Something we can be proud of.
Whilst early Australian white settlement has a lot to be ashamed of unfortunately our generation can do very little about that other than to accept the fact that what really happened, happened and that was the way the world was back then, not just in Australia.
Australia does need to embrace Aboriginal culture a bit more positively and the more Aboriginal culture and history is researched, the more interesting it's becoming.
I mean 40-60,000 years of history is mind boggling.
If you think they were only walking around the desert chucking spears then you need to get out of your cave a bit more!
I think the whole racism debate muddies the waters a bit and is a huge distraction.
I accept RACISM is still alive in Australia but I think only a small percentage of the population can be accused of Racism according to the true meaning above.

All the rest is just RANCID BULLYING which too me is just as unacceptable!

Like I said earlier, we ALL have prejudices big, small, good and especially bad. It's part of the human makeup and it's what kept previous generations alive.
We just need to learn how to moderate those prejudices as to not cause offence.
Cheers 😄

[Iggle Piggle]

But I can still boo Collingwood, yeah?

[XG_Falcon]

Aliens are out there - reading this in a galaxy far, far away. They must be laughing at our Earthly quarrels as they plan their invasion.

[LG17]

Tex, this is the sentence that most from both sides of the fence seem to have difficulty with.

"Whilst early Australian white settlement has a lot to be ashamed of unfortunately our generation can do very little about that other than to accept the fact that what really happened, happened and that was the way the world was back then, not just in Australia."

No-one can change what happened in many countries but we can all acknowledge it and move on with life. Too many have a chip on their shoulder and will not let go.

[castellan]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

Thats just called chasing money, tends to do it to lots of people.

Seriously though the school yard bullies end up being your managers at the end of the day, if you thought high school was bad for those stains of society it just gets worse when you start work.

That's not from what I have seen of schoolyard bullies, most ended up no hopers on the dole.

I would say most who try to screw others over are hopeless due to their incompetence and have to try make up for it some where.

[superyob]

Originally Posted by XG_Falcon

Aliens are out there - reading this in a galaxy far, far away. They must be laughing at our Earthly quarrels as they plan their invasion.

Damn Daleks!!!

[Mesa]

Originally Posted by xxx000

Many times more evidence than any of those talk back radio hosts that hate q and a.
Probably because tonight they have scientists and mathematicians and a doctor on.

'Being from a respected profession with a university degree doesn't necessarily make you intelligent or informed'. A recent quote from my GP.

QandA is sometimes hard to take seriously. They have a history of cherry picking people of similar leftist agendas onto the panel and balancing it with at least one 'outsider' they can all gang up on. Aided and abetted with the 'rent a crowd' mob and a small group militant uni students in the audience.

How many panelists on QandA and city journos have ever lived in regional areas where racism is very much a two way street? A handful of internalsed or reverse racists visiting for a day with a camera crew doesn't give you the full scope of racial problems around this country. It can't be fixed by focusing solely on one group.

My wife is from an indigenous background. She's proud of her indigenous heritage. Granted she's as black in colour as Captain Cook, but she's still proud. Her father and her first cousins are definitely black. Me, I'm a white third fleet descendant. Something the media types keep telling me I should be ashamed of. I'm not. Which I guess makes me a bigot and a racist for not being ashamed of my white skin colour.

[superyob]

Originally Posted by xxx000

Get an education. It'll help you to spell and also to realise how disgustingly bigoted you are towards aboriginal people.
Your 'test' of aboriginality is some magical % of a persons defendants. So using that idea an extended family would get together and some members would be aboriginal and some wouldn't.
Your whole attitude disgusts me more than words can express.

So how does it work xxx000? Can you be recognised as Aboriginal or must there be blood lines? Not picking a fight here, I am genuinely interested in this quest for identity...

(Somewhat off topic I know, but you bought it up)

[castellan]

Originally Posted by xxx000

Get an education. It'll help you to spell and also to realise how disgustingly bigoted you are towards aboriginal people.
Your 'test' of aboriginality is some magical % of a persons defendants. So using that idea an extended family would get together and some members would be aboriginal and some wouldn't.
Your whole attitude disgusts me more than words can express.

Yes I am not good at spelling and nor were any of the aboriginals in my school class days, it's ok that you bag me, but you must be bagging all others who can't spell as well

As for an education I think I informed all, that I lived with aboriginals and two of my good mates are of the stolen generation and have been friends with them for 42 years now, so do you think I don't know what they are on about.
Some how I think I once lived and worked in Darwin, Katherine and so on and my wife's dad is part aboriginal, so what does that make my children

As for what most new Australians or young city people think or the new age PC mobs love to try play games with, I don't respect their foolish uneducated position much at all and you know why it is as so ? because they love to beat it all up and twist everything around, so there is only one way at looking at things and that's only their way, so all others points of view are totally rejected ridiculed abused and threatened.
All history shows socialist have their beginnings in bulling others with brutal deception and cunning not to mention just lies.

The media do they go and ask a full blood aboriginal, who does not go along with their views anything and air it on TV ?
Do you think all aboriginals have total respect for the media or hold them in high regard ?

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by Tex Scrotum

Thought I'd repost the true meaning of RACISM;
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
"theories of racism"
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

I've always seen ones race as a part of ones individualism.
Something we can be proud of.
Whilst early Australian white settlement has a lot to be ashamed of unfortunately our generation can do very little about that other than to accept the fact that what really happened, happened and that was the way the world was back then, not just in Australia.
Australia does need to embrace Aboriginal culture a bit more positively and the more Aboriginal culture and history is researched, the more interesting it's becoming.
I mean 40-60,000 years of history is mind boggling.
If you think they were only walking around the desert chucking spears then you need to get out of your cave a bit more!
I think the whole racism debate muddies the waters a bit and is a huge distraction.
I accept RACISM is still alive in Australia but I think only a small percentage of the population can be accused of Racism according to the true meaning above.

All the rest is just RANCID BULLYING which too me is just as unacceptable!

Like I said earlier, we ALL have prejudices big, small, good and especially bad. It's part of the human makeup and it's what kept previous generations alive.
We just need to learn how to moderate those prejudices as to not cause offence.
Cheers 😄

How many people here deal with Aboriginal People on a daily basis??

Has anyone visited an Aboriginal Mission??

Most Aboriginal people would know nothing about their history, go ahead and ask the average Aboriginal person about their history, ask them about Marbo, ask about their ancestors, and stories, all you will get back is blank stares of confusion, and may be a racial insult thrown your way.

Many will complain about white man being racist, when in fact they are being racist. They are happy to get money from white man, they are happy to drink white man alcohol to excess, and live in and destroy houses build by white man as well as being maintained and payed for by white man.

What is mind boggling to me is that they have been here for 40-60 thousand years and in that time did not even manage to build a grass hut, and no that is not being an racist it is simply stating an observation.

I love how people who state facts are labelled racists. Calling a person black, white, brown or green is not being racist it is simply making an observation and stating an obvious fact, or should I be offended and feel racially discriminated against when I don't get the same benefits as what is offered to the Aboriginal man doing the same job standing next to me?? Should I be offended when an Asian calls me caucasian or white??

The world is getting out of control to the point of being ridiculous. Kids not allowed to bring peanut bitter sandwiches to school, muslims getting offended by christian holidays, etc etc

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

"Many will complain about white man being racist, when in fact they are being racist. They are happy to get money from white man, they are happy to drink white man alcohol to excess, and live in and destroy houses build by white man as well as being maintained and payed for by white man."

"What is mind boggling to me is that they have been here for 40-60 thousand years and in that time did not even manage to build a grass hut, and no that is not being an racist it is simply stating an observation."

IMO I would say that this is racism, or more precisely, bigotry, and yes I have been to missions and have many indigenous friends.

If you read Captain Cook's journals you will find he says that they were the happiest, healthiest people he had ever seen. The colonists gave the Aborigines alcohol as through experience they had found it was an efficient method to accelerate their conquest, destroy willpower and corrupt aboriginal cultures. It is now well known that traditional populations which did not use alcohol have not evolved to physically process it and are prone to addiction.

And aboriginal Australians believed the country as they found it was perfect and it was their responsibility to maintain that perfection.

They must have thought us complete lunatics.


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[Ben73]

I didn't like it when the crowd used to be racist to Wally Lewis by chanting "Wally's a ******" when he was on the field.

I have no idea who this Adam Goods bloke is, but from what I have been told people don't like him because he is an idiot, not because of whatever race is may be.
I also have to agree that some people take PC way to far these days.

[castellan]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

How many people here deal with Aboriginal People on a daily basis??

Has anyone visited an Aboriginal Mission??

Most Aboriginal people would know nothing about their history, go ahead and ask the average Aboriginal person about their history, ask them about Marbo, ask about their ancestors, and stories, all you will get back is blank stares of confusion, and may be a racial insult thrown your way.

Many will complain about white man being racist, when in fact they are being racist. They are happy to get money from white man, they are happy to drink white man alcohol to excess, and live in and destroy houses build by white man as well as being maintained and payed for by white man.

What is mind boggling to me is that they have been here for 40-60 thousand years and in that time did not even manage to build a grass hut, and no that is not being an racist it is simply stating an observation.

I love how people who state facts are labelled racists. Calling a person black, white, brown or green is not being racist it is simply making an observation and stating an obvious fact, or should I be offended and feel racially discriminated against when I don't get the same benefits as what is offered to the Aboriginal man doing the same job standing next to me?? Should I be offended when an Asian calls me caucasian or white??

The world is getting out of control to the point of being ridiculous. Kids not allowed to bring peanut bitter sandwiches to school, muslims getting offended by christian holidays, etc etc

I understand what you are saying.

I had to deal with such from when i was a kid and go see my mates in the mission and all that stuff.

The problem was mainly to do with the new settling people not understanding them at all back in them early days, just as it is nowadays, we gave them things we said they needed, but they did not want or need that.

The burning down of housed etc was only due to our lot having no understanding of what their views were and was only due to our peoples ignorance of them.

It was a criminal totally destructive act to support them drinking like has been done and is still going on.

On knowing full blood people I know that they are a different people, as their values are not what we have been brainwashed to believe and it is this that makes it so hard for other races to understand what they are truly about.

Modern day Australia perceptions of aboriginals is only all about everything but the true dignity of the real full on true aboriginal people.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by b0son

What's your skype account? I want to see you say that with a straight face...

Goodes intent was clear, he want to antagonize the crowd. IIRC, they were booing him at the time, so he probably had a right to respond, but whether the nature of the response given the occasion, was appropriate? Clearly a lot of people feel it wasn't.

Originally Posted by b0son

To quote the AFL's own site, its about 'bringing two cultures together'

How is a war dance, an aggressive and divisive act, helping achieve those aims? What message does it send when an Australian of the Year, is promoting aggression and division between two cultures?

Now before you say I've misinterpreted his dance, if the people on Goodes side can declare those booing him racists, then I think those booing him have every right to decide what message they take from his war dance.

I use the same handle as I use here for Skype.

Lets understand this. One war dance and the crowd is offended.

Aboriginals don't get a say in their country with constant symbols of their oppression, destruction and annihilation being displayed daily (flag and anthem) and yet the footy crowd (and some on this forum too) are being offended by an indigenous dance during the indigenous round of the AFL.

I put it to you that perhaps some people need to HTFU and get over it...

Or is it only the aboriginal Goodes that has to do that?

[OCTANEBOSS]

Goodes went walkabout last week. He's back this week refreshed and ready to play footy. No more polarizing issues in the game hopefully although I doubt that will happen.

[b0son]

Originally Posted by kypez

I put it to you that perhaps some people need to HTFU and get over it...

Fair enough. It's not as if white Australia hasn't been saying the same to the indigenous.

[b0son]

Originally Posted by OCTANEBOSS

Goodes went walkabout last week. He's back this week refreshed and ready to play footy. No more polarizing issues in the game hopefully although I doubt that will happen.

My bet is he gets a standing ovation.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by b0son

My bet is he gets a standing ovation.

and deservedly so...

[Bossxr8]

There's a bunch of complete fools writing into the newspapers saying all Cats supporters should cheer Goodes every time he touches the ball. Are they for real. These soft ***** need to stfu and not tell me what to do at the footy. If I want to cheer for my team and boo the opposition then I have every bloody right to do so.

[cheap]

Originally Posted by superyob

So how does it work xxx000? Can you be recognised as Aboriginal or must there be blood lines? Not picking a fight here, I am genuinely interested in this quest for identity...

(Somewhat off topic I know, but you bought it up)

And I would like to know why people with say 1/32 aboriginal ancestry seem to place an emphasis on identifying as aboriginal but the same people then seem to ignore the other 31/32 parts that go to make who and what they are?

[cheap]

Originally Posted by kypez

and deservedly so...

Why would anyone applaud him? Through his stupid actions he has set back reconciliation many years and when the going got too tough he deserted his team mates. All of this is my opinion of course.

[39ClevoUte]

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/conte...5/s4286264.htm

[kypez]

Originally Posted by cheap

Why would anyone applaud him? Through his stupid actions he has set back reconciliation many years and when the going got too tough he deserted his team mates. All of this is my opinion of course.

this is the first time in a long time it's been put back on the agenda!

Love the bloke! I think he's an absolute legend! Listen to him speak. Fantastic bloke. Always backs up what he says and qualifies every opinion rather than making blanket statements.

[gozzaxr6t]

What kind of a soft **** society do we live in seriously. I cant beleive this guy is getting any support at all. Hes getting booed ffs, if he cant handle that well then he should extend his one week of leave and make it permanent. If it werent for all the white folk which are probably 95% of the crowd buying tickets, signing up memberships etc , he wouldnt be earning the $$$$$ he earns.

Any player that intimidates a crowd with a dance, slur, what ever act it might be, leaves himself open for scrutiny. I watch a number a sports and one example of 'racial unfarness' would have to be in the ufc where a fighter has a massive tattoo over his chest saying, 'brown pride'. Now what would be the consequence of me being an elite athlete or even an average joe blow, with a tattoo on my chest saying white pride???? Instant rascist!!!!! Yet everybody feel free to describe an anglo as white person, thats fine. ****** me right off.

[39ClevoUte]

http://video.news.com.au/v/115578/Wa...sponse-in-full

I hope everyone has seen this interview to the end. And not just read trash newspapers and listened to trash radio.

[xxx000]

Thanks for posting the video up

[kypez]

Originally Posted by gozzaxr6t

What kind of a soft **** society do we live in seriously. I cant beleive this guy is getting any support at all. Hes getting booed ffs, if he cant handle that well then he should extend his one week of leave and make it permanent. If it werent for all the white folk which are probably 95% of the crowd buying tickets, signing up memberships etc , he wouldnt be earning the $$$$$ he earns.

Any player that intimidates a crowd with a dance, slur, what ever act it might be, leaves himself open for scrutiny. I watch a number a sports and one example of 'racial unfarness' would have to be in the ufc where a fighter has a massive tattoo over his chest saying, 'brown pride'. Now what would be the consequence of me being an elite athlete or even an average joe blow, with a tattoo on my chest saying white pride???? Instant rascist!!!!! Yet everybody feel free to describe an anglo as white person, thats fine. ****** me right off.

try not to mix agendas...

How nice. White people pay your salary so we can boo you and be racist towards you... Seriously?! Do you think before you type?

As for the UFC guy, What's the history for the guy with the Brown Pride tat? What's the context? Same if you had a white pride tat, context is everything.

[mik]

Originally Posted by 37Clevo

http://video.news.com.au/v/115578/Wa...sponse-in-full

I hope everyone has seen this interview to the end. And not just read trash newspapers and listened to trash radio.

you dont have to be dark skinned or a different race to be called names , given a hiding etc, etc, it is an unfortunate fact there are humans that do these things, but sooking about it and doing war dances in retaliation to a 13 year old girl just looks bloody childish.

other players cop the same name calling just the same or worse on a weekly basis , but you do not see them in front of the telly cameras having a sook about it.