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Old 16-08-2014, 04:53 PM   #91
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And they will stick chev badges on them and still call to the fastest Holden ute.
show me one HSV with a chev badge!!
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Old 16-08-2014, 06:51 PM   #93
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wow I stand corrected, just wow..

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Old 17-08-2014, 01:04 PM   #95
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The bta result doesnt really surprise there is a vid of them getting under 260rwkw out of a 335. Maybe they fudge the base reading to make their gains after mods look more impressive
You questioned me....I gave you the result you were looking for after looking for about 1min. There are plenty of other examples you could try n shoot down like a loyal hsv fanatic but you can do your own research.
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Old 17-08-2014, 01:06 PM   #96
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Where are you getting those figures from? Can you post some links? I haven't seen one yet under 300rwkw
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Old 17-08-2014, 01:20 PM   #97
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You questioned me....I gave you the result you were looking for after looking for about 1min. There are plenty of other examples you could try n shoot down like a loyal hsv fanatic but you can do your own research.
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You gave one example which is questionable to say the least considering they also have a video of a 335 GT with 260rwkw

If there are plenty than post links, cant be that hard for you to do since you seem to have found plenty of examples.
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Ok I'm going to stop your trolling right their starter motor do some research on rwkws for these new GTS. I hope you didn't buy one and had your heart set on anything much more then 300rwkws......because there are guys with 430 GTS getting UNDER 300rwkws! FACT
There are many blokes also getting over 300rwkws...


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Old 17-08-2014, 04:34 PM   #99
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The bta result doesnt really surprise there is a vid of them getting under 260rwkw out of a 335. Maybe they fudge the base reading to make their gains after mods look more impressive
As I've indicated in previous posts, tyre slip can cause low Dyno numbers. But also in the case of cars with an overboost feature, perhaps it may not always be working.
Last year I got a tuner to Dyno test my standard FG XR6T on his Dyno with a specific request to tie it down and treat it exactly the same as he treats these cars when he does a baseline power test immediately before tuning them. I also asked him to see if the boost and AFR was the same as the other standard cars.
The result was just 7 kW more than the stock car he had tuned the week before (quite possibly mainly accounted for by my new tyres reducing slip and some weight in the boot).
Also the boost and the AFR was the same as the other cars.
However importantly, the boost was 1.5 - 1.7 pounds lower than in two previous Dyno tests that my car had, and the power reaching the wheels was lower.
So the overboost feature obviously didn't work in this case, and clearly (in my view), this tuner hasn't been getting true baseline figures on these cars prior to tuning them. I believe that my cars engine and transmission was cool and he wasn't aggressive enough.

I wonder how many other tuners make the same mistake?

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Old 18-08-2014, 11:50 AM   #101
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There are many blokes also getting over 300rwkws...


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Read what I said.....I said "not much more then 300... With some getting less then 300". Average seems to be as low as 315ish possibly a bit more.

As for the guys looking for more -300rwkw GTS.....you allready said there were NONE....I showed you one......in less then minute. And that's all the time I'm willing to give your useless argumentative rubbish when you know how fickle dynos are.......and that most people wouldn't even blink twice if told there are GTS with under 300 as most only dyno just over anyway. Plus like I SAID I'm on an iPad n can't post links. Stop trolling.
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Old 18-08-2014, 12:01 PM   #102
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I saw a beauty the other day, red SS with Chev badges and the 307 clubsport numbers. Sure it might be modded to 307 but still, Chev badge fail.
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Old 18-08-2014, 03:35 PM   #103
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less peak power, more weight, still quicker....
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Old 18-08-2014, 03:36 PM   #104
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Yeah, just like XR8 bonnets on 6 cylinder falcons!
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Old 18-08-2014, 03:39 PM   #105
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Yeah, just like XR8 bonnets on 6 cylinder falcons!
And GT Stripes on XTs....
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Really...who gives a toss if it is the "Fastest ute" .... Stupid really.. What's the speed limit again? Besides, isn't a ute supposed to be a work horse?
Commo utes stopped being workhorses when they put IRS in the rear.

(I know VY 1 tonner and the crewman were leaf sprung)
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Chuck some 2.7 diff gears in a pursuit ute and edit out the speed linmiter.
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Old 19-08-2014, 05:34 PM   #108
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Commo utes stopped being workhorses when they put IRS in the rear.

(I know VY 1 tonner and the crewman were leaf sprung)
coil spring can take just as much if not more weight than leaf setup!
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coil spring can take just as much if not more weight than leaf setup!
Yeah that's what I thought too....but it's not great on the tyres tho or something......I think.
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coil spring can take just as much if not more weight than leaf setup!
Don't see many with a load though...tradies love the falcon tonner though! IIRC, the VFACTS numbers place the Falcon ute close to the Commodore ute (if not higher in same months), regardless, the percentage of Falcon utes sold to commodore sedans is higher.

Probably see the odd CUB with a LSA Maloo carrying some concreting gear and a Staffy in the back.
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Don't see many with a load though...tradies love the falcon tonner though! IIRC, the VFACTS numbers place the Falcon ute close to the Commodore ute (if not higher in same months), regardless, the percentage of Falcon utes sold to commodore sedans is higher.

Probably see the odd CUB with a LSA Maloo carrying some concreting gear and a Staffy in the back.
springs still handle weight..lol

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What's the payload difference between a pursuit/gs/f6 ute and a maloo?
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50 kg I think going off STD
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coil spring can take just as much if not more weight than leaf setup!
Not for long periods of time. The sporty Falcon utes are more limited by the tyres then the suspension. Commo ute is not a work ute IMO.
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Not for long periods of time. The sporty Falcon utes are more limited by the tyres then the suspension. Commo ute is not a work ute IMO.
Agreed!
The Falcon Utes are work horses. While the Commodore Utes are show ponies.
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