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NUMBER 1 QUESTION REMAINS.
CAR A Diagram 2: Surely you cant nail it from a stopped position without caution? Is this not the same as me starting my car from a parked position and then Nailing it without warning through a busy intersection? Last edited by BA-Fan; 29-12-2009 at 06:37 PM. |
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If car A waited for maybe 2-3 seconds more there wouldnt have been an impact in the first place. But on the other hand if Car B waited for 5 mins for the traffic to clear then it wouldnt have happened either.
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From the information given, Car A is travelling along behind another car, a new lane begins and he indicates left and moves into it. Fact Driver B cant know that Car A had any intention of making a left turn and so must assume he is continuing forward in the new left lane and must therefore give way until the intersection is clear. If you've left something out of your drawing or failed to describe the situation as cars stationary then thats your problem not ours. You asked a question, gave an example, we judged it based on exactly what you provided and now your trying to word it to suit yourself. |
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Furthermore, why would cars stop at an intersection when there is no reason too. Your offering this now, but we can only judge the original post on the information supplied... ![]() |
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If I did what CAR A did (but instead pulled out from a Kerb) during which time someone else had taken a turn, I would assume I'd be in the wrong.
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But car A wasn't pulling out from the kerb was he?
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Q. Why would cars stop at an intersection when there is no reason too.
A. Simply because you are not allowed to block an intersection. |
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Lol... why would the intersection become blocked, there is no signal infront of the vehicles already through the intersection so we must assume they are still moving too.
If they're moving so can the cars entering the intersection. Perhaps you can change the drawings in your original post to suit your argument... |
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The reason you can't see why is becuase i couldnt draw every car through to the next suburb. It was peak hour bumper to bumper traffic and cars had stopped to avoid that intersection becoming blocked.
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The Spanner in the works is:
Car A made his decision to leave the stopped traffic lane ONLY after Car B was already in the intersection and committed to the turn. Last edited by BA-Fan; 29-12-2009 at 08:03 PM. |
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Double Post....
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In scenario 2 was there a sign like this:
![]() I think this may have been the only legal way for car B to cross in front of the standing traffic. Other than that, as already said, it would have been common courtesy for the other traffic to let car B through. |
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Perhaps if you'd mentioned that 5 pages ago we wouldnt be upto page 5 |
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And we really dont know whether Car A had a chance to see Car B turning, coming out from behind the car that was in front of him. And he probably didnt expect someone to do a right turn just as he was legally crossing the intersection. In this situation common courtesy doesnt come into it. And why did Car B speed across the oncoming traffic without caution? |
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Hahaha, yes you are quite right it does refer to taking out dead bodies.
and yes wether you pass on the left or the right you eventually achieve the ultimate goal of over taking. Now if the law says that this is legal then I have no argument. Now I know it was a rule in New Zealand, but its not enforced and people dont really adhere it either and I know its a rule in the UK and it is enforced at all times as speeding is here. Now here I thought it was a rule too, need to check it out but thats cool. I will however proceed to question the safety of passing if you will, a vehicle on the left. Say for example I am in the middle of a three lane moter way, I now want to over take some one by moving around to their right. I do this and now proceed to move back into the middle lane, as I do this some persistant traffic weaving lane hopping freak manouvers from the far left behind me and into the middle lane and now aproaching the rear quarter of my vehicle as I am trying to move back. To me this is a crazy move and totally unsafe. I have seen it happen to so many on the free way. I drive with my mirrors in the correct position and have no blind spots but you check to ensure it is safe to pull back once you have overtaken and some goose hurdles in from the other side, where is the common sense in that and why would you allow such an unsafe rule. I would say it is there and its like keeping a safe distance from the car in from, its never enforced either and every one drives so far up the **** of the one in front its impossible to merge in from an on ramp, they speed up so you can't get in, atleast not in front of them and the traffic is moving at 10 k, wow that should get him home a load quicker. come on attitudes stink and no one gives a except for number one. Tell me, how does it make you feel when you actually let some one in from a side road when traffic is slow and you see fifty cars pass him bumper to bumper, you let him in or some one lets you in, you give em a wave they say thanks and its a good deed done. SHOULD HAPPEN BLOODY MORE OFTEN. err sorry got carried away, but its bloody true Happy new year and I hope the roads have a better attitude in 2010, I won't hold my breath though. Quote:
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After reading this thread and showing it to my collegues, we are not amazed that there are so many accidents on our roads.
The road rules are online and free to read. Do so, oh and encourage your family and friends to do so also.
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maybe this is why so many people tailgate, as they think they can't pass to the left! |
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