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Old 12-08-2018, 10:28 AM   #1141
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Hey, quick question for those of you who have purchased rangers with the tow bar preinstalled at the factory, do they come with the towball and hitch?

Or literally just the tow bar?

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I guess no tow ball means you're not going to buy one now
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Old 12-08-2018, 11:11 AM   #1142
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I guess no tow ball means you're not going to buy one now


Haha no my sales contract is written in blood!

I’m gonna get myself one of them nifty adjustable tow hitches I’ve always wanted. This just gives me justification.
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Old 12-08-2018, 12:14 PM   #1143
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Hey, quick question for those of you who have purchased rangers with the tow bar preinstalled at the factory, do they come with the towball and hitch?

Or literally just the tow bar?

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I've purchased 3 XLTs and they've all been delivered with a hitch, ball, and D shackles.
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I've purchased 3 XLTs and they've all been delivered with a hitch, ball, and D shackles.
D shackles yes also, the tow ball your dealer would have supplied and either absorbed the cost or charged you on the sales invoice.

I know they don't have the ball from factory as when we change over our cars we have to swap the tow ball over from the last vehicle. To save costs in our case $20 odd per car does add up for the amount of cars in the fleet.
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Old 12-08-2018, 01:57 PM   #1145
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Was curious so I looked up my spec sheet on ETIS through Ford's service site. Unfortunately it says "Less Tow Ball", but for the curious, here's the complete build sheet.

Minor Features
Ebony Interior
Leather #1
With Underbody Protection
With Rear Mudflaps
Acc Media Hub 2XUSB+AU+SD Slot
Front Fender Grill - Black
ID Plate - Australia
With Front Mudflaps
Heated Seats - Drivers/Passengers
Cab Back Panel - Unwoven Premium
Less Decals - 4X4
Battery Management System
With Assisted Conventional Tailgate
With Power Tailgate Lock
Less - BTSI Manual Override
Less Second Unit Body Covers
Less Mesh Headboard 2nd Unit
Less Pickup Side Rails
Less Roll Bar
With Pick-Up Tie Hook - Inner
Less load Box Edge Protectors
Less Outside Tie Down Hooks
With Load Box Bedliner
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FMC Thailand Ltd
Security Lock Group #5
With Step Van Ramp Package
Interior Trim Pack 21
Less Special Value Packages
Marketing Level 1
Less Hot Weather Group
Less Body Styling Kit
Less Smoke Compliance Label
Leather Seat Material
Less Warning Display
Less Fire Extinguisher
Pwr Fr Window 1 Touch Up/Dwn-Driver
With Electric Rear Windows
With Privacy Glass
Acoustic Laminated Windscreen
With Heated Rear Window
With Locking Glove Box Lid
Overhead Console W/Int Dome Lamps
Console-With Double Lid
With Vinyl Console Material
Non Woven Carpet
Front Floor Mats - Premium
With Rear Floor Mats-Premium
With Illuminated Sunvisor - Drivers
With Illuminated Sunvisor-Passenger
With Chrome Interior Door Handles
With Vinyl Door Trim Panel Insert
With Front Roof Grab Handle
With A Pillar Assist Handle
Less Load Rest
Roof Storage-Driver Sunglasses
With Black Grille
Less Roof Rack
Side Step - Black
With Electrochromic R/View Mirror
Dual Pwr/Heat/Fold/Pud Lamp/Signal
With Black Exterior Mirror
With Driver Seat Back Map Pocket
Front Seat Pack 8
With Rear Seat Centre Armrest
Rear Seat Anchor - Fixed
With Rear Center Head Restraint
With Side Curtain Airbag
With 2nd Row Bench Seat - 3 Passngr
With Driver 8 Way Pwr.Seat Adjuster
With Pass 4 Way Manual Seat Adjust
Rear Seat Pack 11
Trailer Tow Prep Pack
ADR Regulation Rear Towbar
Less Tow Ball
T/Tow Hitch Metric - 12 Pin Skt
With Rear Towing Hooks
Engine Cover - Under Hood
Exterior Door Handle-Accent Colour
Double Cab (3/4 Door)
Lift/Bootlid Handle Exterior-Black
With Leather Gear Shift Knob
With Child Proof Safety Lock
Remote Control Door Entry - 2 Fob
Keyless Entry/Start - Passive
433 MHZ High Power
Rain Sensitive Windshield Wipers
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12 Year Corrosion Protection
Less Fr Bumper Ped Foam Protection
Front Bumper Painted Accent Colour
Rear Bumper - Painted Accent Colour
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Rear Bumper Sensor Device
Less Front Bumper Lip
Beltminder Front/Rear
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Retractable Rear Seat Belt-3Point
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With Passenger Air Bag
With Isofix Hard Point Attachment
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With Conventional Alloy Spare Wheel
Less Tyre Pressure Sensors
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LT285/70R17 A/T
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Stage V LDT3 Emissions
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3.73
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2.0 EcoBlue (125KW/170PS)
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With ABS/ESP/RSC/Terrain Management
With Fresh Air Heater
With EATC - Dual Control System
With Non Locking Fuel Cap
With Diesel Fuel Capability
With Electric Power Steering
Strg Wheel - SVT Unique Leather
Speed Control And ASLD
Multi Media Cntls - Steering Wheel
Less Ice (Frost) Warning
Mid Series Cluster
With KMH Speedometer
Dual Note Electric Horn
Outside Temp Thermometer
MFD TFT Touch Screen
With Navigation System
Emergency Assistance
Lane Keeping Aid
Speed Sign Recognition
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Less Side Parking Aid
Electrical Upgrade Package II
Power Convertor
Asian Radio Frequency
Roof Mnted Antenna - AM/FM/DAB/GPS
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ICE Feature Pack 129
With Diversity Antenna
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With 6 Speakers
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Sync III
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Cargo Box Power Point Plug
With Cool Box
High Intensity Discharge Headlamp
With Daytime Running Lamps
Less Side Repeat Flashers
Front Fog Lamps-LED
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Tail lamps - Level 1
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Old 12-08-2018, 06:58 PM   #1146
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I have had the opportunity this weekend to drive a late prototype Raptor. I put a tape measure on the tub and I can confirm that the press release and web site are talking BS. interior length of the loadbox is 1430mm

nvh and refinement is great. easy lift tailgate and central locking tailgate are great. lights are definitely better than the current model. the powertrain definitely feels much better than the specs on paper would have you believe.
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Old 12-08-2018, 07:18 PM   #1147
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I have had the opportunity this weekend to drive a late prototype Raptor. I put a tape measure on the tub and I can confirm that the press release and web site are talking BS. interior length of the loadbox is 1430mm

nvh and refinement is great. easy lift tailgate and central locking tailgate are great. lights are definitely better than the current model. the powertrain definitely feels much better than the specs on paper would have you believe.

Any other interesting details to report? I’m actually really interested in hearing an honest opinion from someone other than a journalist.

How do the seats feel? It seems very quiet in a lot of the videos once you shut the door.
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Old 12-08-2018, 07:18 PM   #1148
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I have had the opportunity this weekend to drive a late prototype Raptor. I put a tape measure on the tub and I can confirm that the press release and web site are talking BS. interior length of the loadbox is 1430mm

nvh and refinement is great. easy lift tailgate and central locking tailgate are great. lights are definitely better than the current model. the powertrain definitely feels much better than the specs on paper would have you believe.
The easy lift tailgate is a head trip. You just about throw the tailgate through the tray the first time you close it cause its so light. You don’t expect it to feel like it weighs 10% of what it really does.

And the refinement of the bi-turbo is much improved over 3.2. Loses the gravellyness so prelevant in the I5, especially off idle. Can feel it as soon as you start it.
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Old 12-08-2018, 08:45 PM   #1149
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the front seats are really supportive.

in fact the whole driveability with coils springs in the rear is great. the back jumps around way less when unladen and it soaks up the crappy tarmac around here really well. I didn't go off road but on unsealed roads it really smoothed them out. cornering is much more positive and there is much less body roll then on the standard leaf spring car.

I really don't think you'll be disappointed.
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Old 14-08-2018, 03:04 PM   #1150
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I'm one of the forum viewers who has a RR on order and haven't been active in the forum. I'm sure there are a few others.
I currently have a 2012 Wildtrak which has suited my needs well. I used to tow a 3 tonne boat as well as a few other things.
Now I have no need for this capacity. My needs are going bush without a trailer and lots of country road driving and even more city driving. Possibly a camper trailer in the future.

Whilst it would be nice to have more power it is not critical fore me. In my Wildtrak I am always ahead of the traffic without trying so if the RR is equal or better I'm happy(showing my age I suppose).

For me the suspension is the big seller. Judging by the Car Advice poll the Raptor wins out over the V6 Merc after 2000 votes, so it seems off road ability wins out over traffic light drags. Pity we can't have both!

The accolades for it's off road handling are hard to believe so it will be interesting to see how good it really is. Judging by the driving impressions above it is looking good : )

At least it is faster than a land Rover Defender at 17 seconds for the 0-100.

The dealer has told me arrival in port last week August with delivery a few weeks later.
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Old 14-08-2018, 03:20 PM   #1151
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Congrats mate, having external canister coil overs makes for wonderful off road use hands down. Its not journo talk.
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Old 15-08-2018, 09:48 AM   #1152
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https://www.caradvice.com.au/675283/...es-benz-x350d/

Raptor rolls Mercedes X class in poll
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https://www.caradvice.com.au/675283/...es-benz-x350d/

Raptor rolls Mercedes X class in poll
In due respect, the article does not give any criteria, and neither vehicle is on the road here yet.. the X350D will be next year..
so what did the 2000 voters judge on? looks?

Edit I see it was from a facebook Poll..so..
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Old 15-08-2018, 10:16 AM   #1154
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On an unrelated note, looking into insurance options.

Does anyone use club 4x4? I'm really interested because they have recovery insurance and cover you anywhere in Australia. Are there any other alternative companies?

None of the companies have the raptor loaded in to their system yet so it's hard to get a quote.
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Old 15-08-2018, 10:34 AM   #1155
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In due respect, the article does not give any criteria, and neither vehicle is on the road here yet.. the X350D will be next year..
so what did the 2000 voters judge on? looks?

Edit I see it was from a facebook Poll..so..
Not to mention that the Raptor is in a league of its own for factory off road capabilities and yet only held a 10% margin over a run of the mill dual cab in a vote.
Of the 2000 people polled, 900 would rather a basic package than spend a few more k on a cutting edge Raptor.
I'd say it is far from a convincing win.
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Feck me, social media has a lot to answer for lol.......
and what a comparo - a purpose built off roader to a premium std 4x4 offering, might as well pump up the price of Wildtrak and have it join the party.
This is endorsement plus.
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Someone reads Caradvice reviews? Some of the reviews they push put if nothing else feel like old fashioned payday journalism. Glowing review of a Equinox recently...say no more.
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Old 15-08-2018, 02:17 PM   #1158
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I know its slightly off topic guys but does anyone know if dealers have Non Raptor 2 litres on the lot yet?? My old man is holding off getting a new XLT so he can drive both engines and buy the one he likes the most...
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Old 15-08-2018, 02:45 PM   #1159
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I drove a 2.0 XLT back to back with my 3.2 and would chose the 2.0 now. The power and performance are very close as you'd assume from the specs, but the refinement of the 2.0 wins hands down.

these were late proto test cars. I don't think they reach dealers until next month.
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Someone reads Caradvice reviews? Some of the reviews they push put if nothing else feel like old fashioned payday journalism. Glowing review of a Equinox recently...say no more.
And the OpEd pieces telling people to stop bagging the Commodore...
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Caradvancecash.com.au

trash site trash opinions.

good to hear from real owners/test drivers.
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Thank sharonchris or viseversa lol.
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I wonder if the 2.0 to 3.2 in ranger is comparable to say the 2.2 twin turbo in the new navara to the old 3.0 in the dmax? The 2.2 navara is horrible, has more power for about 500 or 600 revs between maybe 2500 to 3000, apart from that nothing. Its so busy, noisy and just not pleasant at all. The Dmax has a cruisy power for a much wider rev band and sure its not as peaky but so much nicer to drive. The Ford 2.0 obviously has more power but has to change gears all the time, which is ok as it has all the gears. It is meant to be more refined than the 3.2. But I would guess for me the bigger engine would be a much nicer drive. I think if you werent after the raptor, you really would have to try them both to see what you like.
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......another caradvice thread to keep you all happy Yes the previous one was a nothing poll - don’t read too much into it.

https://www.caradvice.com.au/675481/...er-raptor-usa/
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I wonder if the 2.0 to 3.2 in ranger is comparable to say the 2.2 twin turbo in the new navara to the old 3.0 in the dmax? The 2.2 navara is horrible, has more power for about 500 or 600 revs between maybe 2500 to 3000, apart from that nothing. Its so busy, noisy and just not pleasant at all. The Dmax has a cruisy power for a much wider rev band and sure its not as peaky but so much nicer to drive. The Ford 2.0 obviously has more power but has to change gears all the time, which is ok as it has all the gears. It is meant to be more refined than the 3.2. But I would guess for me the bigger engine would be a much nicer drive. I think if you werent after the raptor, you really would have to try them both to see what you like.
Wow i thought i was the only one who thought that navara motor is absolute crap. Im a big fan of the 4jj1, My brother has a dmax with a tune only makes 200hp at the wheels and heaps of torque, would be a nice motor for the raptor actually..........
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Pretty much following on from the caradvice article

https://www.motoring.com.au/ford-ran...for-us-114148/
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So it looks like US Ranger Raptor will have the 2.3 EcoBoost Petrol Engine. I wonder if it will be a different tune to the base model Rangers.
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But I would guess for me the bigger engine would be a much nicer drive.
actually no. I've driven both in XLT and the Raptor, and the 2.0 drives exactly the same as the 3.2 You really wouldn't know if you weren't told.

the 2.0 is much more refined though. much less agricultural than the 3.2
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Pretty much following on from the caradvice article

https://www.motoring.com.au/ford-ran...for-us-114148/
it's amazing what conclusions these so called journalists can draw from such little actual information.
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So it looks like US Ranger Raptor will have the 2.3 EcoBoost Petrol Engine. I wonder if it will be a different tune to the base model Rangers.
Which begs the question... will it get a mid-life update here and be offered with the petrol engine? Time will tell.
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