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Old 13-03-2007, 10:48 AM   #61
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As of yesterday BP have moved into the shopping centres.
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Old 13-03-2007, 01:20 PM   #62
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Have to take it into perspective guys. I knock on doors myself for promotions. Someone has to do it. If it seems like we are pushy, we are not trying to be. The reason we ask and confirm a few times is because VERY often a person will be interested in what you have/offering if you had asked a second time. It is human nature to say no the first time. To anything!

How do you think we feel when, when before having said anything that person will say "Not interested" and shut the door. Don't even give us a chance? We're not all the same.
. When you been through what my family has in the past 12 months, the last thing you need is an unnecessary knock on the door, you immediately expect the worst. That, and my dog gets upset.

Un-invited door knocking should be made illegal and friends should always phone first, as a courtesy thing.

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Old 13-03-2007, 01:42 PM   #63
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Un-invited door knocking should be made illegal and friends should always phone first, as a courtesy thing.

Geez......... next you'll say the postie needs a swipe card to deliver your mail.....................
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i have allways said im not interested or the parents arent home. except when i decided id be nice to this little old man talkin bout relgion. i jus didnt wana say **** off.
but damn 20 minutes latter i wish i had have said **** off.

and i dont like people selling things. on the rare ocasion my dad listens to them and considers signing up. they still decide they have to dick you around and not give u staight honest answers. we have had to literaly kick people out of our house beacause they would not give us honest answers and would not listen.
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Old 13-03-2007, 02:05 PM   #65
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There are many better ways to get a product or promotion out there? Perhaps. But with that state of mind, you can say that about any type of selling. Telemarketing? I'm sure you love that as well.. It is done because it is effective. It works, it's proven. If it was something you were interested in you wouldn't say it was "disturbing your peace and quiet"..
If it was something I were interested in? I'd 1) probably already have one and 2) buy it at a shop where I can take it back if I have an issue with it.

Personally I've never bought anything from a door to door salesman. My wife has and I go beserk when she does. I generally can get the product cheaper elsewhere. I get her to cancel the contract within 24 hours.

Better sales can be done via a phamphlet drop, internet website and via word of mouth sales. I've used the interest to make business sales and word of mouth before and they work very well. No need to go door to door as all it does is **** people off which hurts sales.
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Old 13-03-2007, 02:27 PM   #66
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Geez......... next you'll say the postie needs a swipe card to deliver your mail.....................
How does that work?
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Old 13-03-2007, 03:12 PM   #67
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The credit card guys (AMEX) are at Sydney airport too. I sometimes speak to them when waiting for a flight (nothing better to do), get them really interested saying salary is $500K+...then when I am bored suddenly look at my watch, panic and yell "OMG I am going to miss my flight" whilst running away...
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The credit card guys (AMEX) are at Sydney airport too. I sometimes speak to them when waiting for a flight (nothing better to do), get them really interested saying salary is $500K+...then when I am bored suddenly look at my watch, panic and yell "OMG I am going to miss my flight" whilst running away...
AMEX are bloody the most annoying company out there ATM. Not only are they in every nook and cranny of public places, I have been recieveing "forms to suck you into debt" from them every 2-3 mths since my early uni days until now, w/o fail! Bloody hell, I'm a uni student, what make you think I can afford a AMEX gold card? No wonder they need to be everywhere. Nobody likes them becauseof high card fees and interest and most shops hate them too because of higher commissions. Beats me how they stay in business considering Visa and MC are much more preferable for everyone.
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I was on the other side of town today in Heathmont I normally use Mobil synergy, I stopped at the BP there as I was putting fuel in my car when I was approached by a young man wanting to spray this stuff on my car, there was 3 persons in all fronting customers to use this aerosol in a can car wash.
I told him to go away I use Megs he said what about my windows and wheels.
Surely this type of selling dosnt work any more..Its just a pain in the a#s..
For me back to a Mobil next time.
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If it was something I were interested in? I'd 1) probably already have one and 2) buy it at a shop where I can take it back if I have an issue with it.

Personally I've never bought anything from a door to door salesman. My wife has and I go beserk when she does. I generally can get the product cheaper elsewhere. I get her to cancel the contract within 24 hours.

Better sales can be done via a phamphlet drop, internet website and via word of mouth sales. I've used the interest to make business sales and word of mouth before and they work very well. No need to go door to door as all it does is **** people off which hurts sales.
I know how you feel mate. It doesn't work on everyone of course. I get people to tell me to ******* off all the time. But you move on. Don't let one person bother you. The company I am in and various other companies wouldn't be multi million dollar companies (i.e. Avon) if they didn't do what they do.

If you had a look at it this way. Your wife buys something from a door to door salesman. Sure, you can probably find it cheaper elsewhere. However, to some people, not all, think they save time by getting it that way. Time is money after all is it not?
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AMEX are bloody the most annoying company out there ATM. Not only are they in every nook and cranny of public places, I have been recieveing "forms to suck you into debt" from them every 2-3 mths since my early uni days until now, w/o fail! Bloody hell, I'm a uni student, what make you think I can afford a AMEX gold card? No wonder they need to be everywhere. Nobody likes them becauseof high card fees and interest and most shops hate them too because of higher commissions. Beats me how they stay in business considering Visa and MC are much more preferable for everyone.
Plenty of uni students have AMEX gold cards, their parents pay them off for them each month. Spoilt prats.
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Have to take it into perspective guys. I knock on doors myself for promotions. Someone has to do it. If it seems like we are pushy, we are not trying to be. The reason we ask and confirm a few times is because VERY often a person will be interested in what you have/offering if you had asked a second time. It is human nature to say no the first time. To anything!

How do you think we feel when, when before having said anything that person will say "Not interested" and shut the door. Don't even give us a chance? We're not all the same.

How many people are interested? Your Type should be banned along with Telemarketers, the only people who are interested in this type of marketing are dole bludgers with nothing else to do, the rest of us after a hard days work don't need some (usually SMART ASSSS) knocking on the door when we are about to have dinner.

Its a disgrace and I very much doubt companies do that well out of it.
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What I do - And it works EVERY TIME is to say to the representative.
"OK yeh sure! but first I would like to sing a song for you, cough cough", *start singing a song, preferrably an old English song like White Cliffs of Dover* Make a real effort with the singing too, hand on the heart whislt raising the other.
Very quickly the person trying to sell you something gets a dose of their own medicine - An unprovoked attack that is very embarrasing and hard to get away from.
I love watching there face glow bright red and all they can do is stand there and watch as you seranade them.
Although my girlfriend thinks im weird when she is wondering why im taking so long in the shop to pay for the fuel and when she turns to look inside there I am singing falseto to some stranger. But meh! who cares.
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Old 14-03-2007, 12:01 PM   #74
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I might be a rude p$%k but I always just walk straight past them and shake my head and mouth "no". If they come to the door, as soon as they start I say "no thanks" and shut it in their face. If the phone rings and it is someone I dont know selling I just hang up withought saying anything.

Not sure why people stop walking, if they block your path, walk around them.
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You're welcome at my doorstep anytime One Drone.

What items do you sell? I especially enjoy rusty articles (particularly spoons); I also enjoy blood (or as I call it, "the red water"), dirty water taps, and nettles, the sting of which I find pleasurable...

When you knock on my door I'll probably have a fish in the oven and i'll need your assistance in getting it out. Oh look a rusty nail...

(in other words unsolicited doorknocking and telemarketers suck)
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Old 14-03-2007, 12:17 PM   #76
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Reminds me of a skit I saw on a comedy show once. Jehovah's Witnesses at the door and the family invite them in. The JWs don't know what to do next because no one has ever invited them in before.
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I'm actually thinking of getting one of the BP mastercards, but luckily for BP none of their sales droids have tried bailing me up about it or I doubt I'd be as interested.

I keep getting called by a telemarketing mob in india looking for a mr ******** who I can only assume used to have my number assigned to him or gave my number by mistake somewhere (cause no-one knows my home number!). I've had some very varied responses from them when I say I'm not who they're looking for..... From "There's no need to lie mr ********", "Oh I'm sorry, but would you be interested in..." and the most recent and my personal favourite
Me: Hello?
Them: Hello mr ********, I'm blah from blah blah blah...
Me: I'm not mr ********, you have the wrong number
Them: It says here mr ******** is on this number
Me: I'm fully aware of who I am and what number this is... you have the wrong number"
Them: But my screen says...
Me (now frustrated): I don't care what your screen says, you have the wrong number.
Them: But...
Me: No buts, you people have been calling me for months and everytime I've told you I'm not mr ******* and asked you to remove my number... yet still your calling me three times a week.
Them: Sorry but I don't have the authority to remove...
Me: Take me off your ********n list and STOP ********N CALLING ME!
Them: OK, will do, sorry mr *******

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Thank you , please DON'T call again!!
If you get a silent number, you don't get any calls.
If you also live in a povo area, you dont get anyone, bar Foxtel door knocking.
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Thank you , please DON'T call again!!
If you get a silent number, you don't get any calls.
If you also live in a povo area, you dont get anyone, bar Foxtel door knocking.
i have a silent number, yet i have received a call or two from 'salespeople'.
the last one, i was just getting out of the shower and the phone called, so i ran to get it. usual indian call centre crap. she just started talking, non-stop, about i don't know what. i put the phone on the sink, and dried my hair. picked up phone, still talking. put phone down, got dressed. checked phone, still talking. put shoes on, put dogs outside, did some other quick jobs... yep, still talking. hang up phone, and go out. still have no idea what she was on about.

had an indian guy knock on the door. came out the side gate holding my rotty by his collar, thinking he would deter the guy. he looked worried at first, then came over to chat. still looked a tad nervous... Couldn't understand a word he was saying, only knew what he was selling due to his T.R.U shirt. wouldnt take no for an answer, usual crap. even when i said i was already with TRU (i'm not) he kept talking..
"sorry mate, dogs getting restless, you had better go".... walked in the gate and let go of the dog. the guy left pretty quick.
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My wife filled up today in Newcastle and they are now bailing people up at the pumps............
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LOL. I used to have a German Shepherd/Doermann. Salesmen and God Botherers always gave our house a wide berth :
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And how many times do you need to be told how to use the efpos. step by step verble instructions evry single time. the damn thing tells you on the screen. I hate being told how to do this wee task which I perform so many times its rediculous to think that there would be any one who could not. Its as natural as wiping your @$$.
Sorry for that but its my pet hate.
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There are many better ways to get a product or promotion out there? Perhaps. But with that state of mind, you can say that about any type of selling. Telemarketing? I'm sure you love that as well.. It is done because it is effective. It works, it's proven. If it was something you were interested in you wouldn't say it was "disturbing your peace and quiet"..
Rubbish mate. I absolute HATE being bugged at home whether that be by door to door sales or telemarketing. Even if I am interested I make a point of NEVER buying anything this way.

If I want it, I will go out and find it myself.

What annoys me even more about you people is that even once I say no not interested politely you still persist.... that's when I become very rude. Everyone's got a job to do, but if I've already politely said no and you walk away that's fine, but if you continue, then as I said I do become very rude.
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LOL. youll love this one. a friend of mine has a couple of kids. lives in parra. and one day a sales person came to the door and would leave. so she decided to sick the kids on him. imagine a 6 & 8 year old just going nuts on an indian slaes person. he left in a rush lol....

there really good trained kids.
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Some people still have problems doing that!
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I have trained Bobby, my Jack Russell to bite their ankles.
Jack Russells are great, I'd like about 20 of them.... they'd make a great carpet!
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Had a young bloke lob at my door, singlet, Baseball cap on backward, ususal young hip dude just out making a buck, Wants to sign me up with the other big Telco. Now I was home with the young bloke, in the middle of cooking dinner,

"sorry mate already with them, I'm busy at the moment, good day"

"I've got some questions for you"

"Thats fine, but you have not got anything to offer me so we can just leave it at that hey"

"Well ive got these questions and you have to answer them"

Well that is when I asked the young bloke to go into the lounge and flick on some cartoons while dad had a chat to the nice young man at the door.

Cue Simpson intro, enter red mist stage right, open the screen door and step up to the hip dude with His ID hanging from his HSV lanyard (some images just stick in the mind ) Any who.... After asking him to leave my property three times I grab him by the ear lobe and walk him to the nature strip.

Now this is where it gets interesting. The little so and so goes into a rant about being treated like **** for doing his job and **** heads like me not doing what they are asked. Throws his hat and lanyard on the ground rips of his singlet and postures like he wants to go at it.

Now this guy is probably 60 kilo ringing wet, but thinks he can rip my head off. I calmly bend over pick up his ID and tell him to bugger off while I ring his boss.

Exit little so and so up the street mumbling under his breath.

Now get this, after calling the "Other Major Telco", I am told that as the Young fellow is employed by a subcontractor there is nothing they can do to him, however they will see about talking to the regional customer contact provider.......... "oh and would you mind ever so much posting his ID back to us"

Arranged to switch back to the "Major Telco" and when the option came up for the work phones, ticked the box for "Major Telco" (some fifteen mobile phones with heavy usage).

Do these companies bother screening the little scrotums (or big ones for that matter) they employ?
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