Fast and Furious 3 - Page 3

stockel · 21-12-2005, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Quasi

Who?

Damn, another tosser from the hood who talks like he's being jabbed in the a## with a tent pole :hihi:

I think some of you people should be doing standup or something!

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DivHunter · 21-12-2005, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Gammaboy

Yes, clearly. and mine was crapper* than any of the 5.4s** at the dyno day :P

(* By crapper I mean made more Hosspower, because clearly power is crap :P)
(** I can't bring myself to call them a Boss, the real Bosses have either Clevo heads (Boss302, Boss351) or ports that will fit a tennis ball (Boss429))

Did you mean Horsepower or maybe Hoffpower :evil_laug

Biggoggs · 21-12-2005, 01:06 PM

You know, it's entirely possible they'll dub over a V8 sound, or simply use the Mustang as a prop.

Yes, the F&F series has always been ridiculously over-accentuated, you're slow if you've only just figured that out. Name one car movie that wasn't

Gammaboy · 21-12-2005, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairmont99

Did you mean Horsepower or maybe Hoffpower :evil_laug

If it was a windsor I'd have said Hoffpower :P

Gunns · 21-12-2005, 01:26 PM

Fairmont99 All people are saying that a classic like the mustang should have a classic engine of the same make.

outback_ute · 21-12-2005, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mitch_lx

So is that why a standard jap ''rubbish'' GTR will run the quater mile faster than a fairly modified xr6t,xr8,F6, GT and GTP??

Reason i say they probably used the RB26DETT or in this case converted to single turbo is because they know what they are dealing with and there is a massive aftermarket parts scene for them, the RB and SR series engines are two of some of the most impressive series of engines ever and i dont think we should rubbish them :P

What I meant by "rubbish" is cheap, old import cars and parts from Japanese auctions. They get a few cars in, paint them up, do up the engine of one cosmetically (doesn't actually need to go fast), etc. Most of the cars are mechanically stock to avoid unreliability that would cost shooting time. The original cost of the cars would be far exceeded by the cost of the work that goes into them, and they are treated as a disposable item.

That is the same reason why the Eleanor car in Gone in 60 Secs was a Shelby Mustang, there are lots of cheap old Mustangs around to sacrifice, and you can easily mock it up into a Shelby. It's a bit harder to mock up a convincing fake Ferrari for example.

Des · 21-12-2005, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by outback_ute

It's a bit harder to mock up a convincing fake Ferrari for example.

Turtle Wax used to turn old Holdens into Ferrari's.

SunDrifter · 21-12-2005, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EF_Dave

Nissan dont make performance cars anymore as the motors are too rubbish to meet the the emession laws, the fastest thing they have is the 350z!

yep, that has a (reportly crappy) peugeot engine in it.

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Bring back the R34!

Quasi · 21-12-2005, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Des

Turtle Wax used to turn old Holdens into Ferrari's.

Now you are showing your age

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stockel · 21-12-2005, 01:53 PM

These movies are unashamedly crap so I wouldn't get too worked up about them people.

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They are good for a laugh THAT'S IT!

GTS_300_Coupe · 21-12-2005, 02:06 PM

We still dont even have proof that this is true.
There have been no mustangs identified as of yet in the new fast and furious movie.

jspec_sti · 21-12-2005, 02:08 PM

Fairmont99, take a chill pill man, life is too short...

If you want to talk about cars being "owned" from factory, how many cars did the Phase III GTHO "own" from the factory?

Which car is more revered, a Nissan Skyline or Phase III GTHO? (start a poll if you like)

The point is, some cars, and yes, the Mustang is one of them, have a reputation that should never be tampered with. Yes, the Skylines were fast in their day, but they don't, and never will have the "aura" that surrounds the Ford Mustang. Therefore, mixing Mustang and Nissan parts can never be justified - even for a crap movie like the F&F franchise. And that is why true Ford fans take offence to it being done.

outback_ute · 21-12-2005, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDrifter

yep, that has a (reportly crappy) peugeot engine in it.

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Incorrect, it is a Nissan engine to start with

DivHunter · 21-12-2005, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bladexr8

Fairmont99, take a chill pill man, life is too short...

If you want to talk about cars being "owned" from factory, how many cars did the Phase III GTHO "own" from the factory?

Which car is more revered, a Nissan Skyline or Phase III GTHO? (start a poll if you like)

The point is, some cars, and yes, the Mustang is one of them, have a reputation that should never be tampered with. Yes, the Skylines were fast in their day, but they don't, and never will have the "aura" that surrounds the Ford Mustang. Therefore, mixing Mustang and Nissan parts can never be justified - even for a crap movie like the F&F franchise. And that is why true Ford fans take offence to it being done.

Within Aust maybe the Phase 3, MAYBE, but lets face it not that many people outside ford enthusiasts remember it. The GT-R however is an internationaly known and respected car by anyone's standards. I personally wouldn't put an RB26DETT (or RB26DET in this case) into a Mustang, it just doesn't work with the cars heritage and image. However that doesn't mean that the RB26DETT is an inferior engine or in any way tarnish the good cars that Nissan have produced. All it does is show a complete lack of taste from the owner of the vehicle.

jspec_sti · 21-12-2005, 02:42 PM

Fairmont99, correct, "it just doesn't work with the cars heritage and image". That is the whole point. I am in no way denigrating the Nissan Skyline. No doubt the Nissans were, and to some extent still are fearsome cars, but we should all respect the history of some badges.

And you'd be surprised how many "non Ford" enthusiasts remember the Phase III. I'm sure the many Holden and Chrysler drivers (I happen to know a few) who had their butts kicked at the time by the Phase III would remember them...

Blue Oval Mopar Man · 21-12-2005, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Des

Turtle Wax used to turn old Holdens into Ferrari's.

HAHAHAHAHAHA too true !

just like a mercedes can turn Lady Di into a concrete pillar ! :hihi:

gozza · 21-12-2005, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by outback_ute

Incorrect, it is a Nissan engine to start with

from a maxima right?

Steffo · 21-12-2005, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDrifter

yep, that has a (reportly crappy) peugeot engine in it.

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Bring back the R34!

Umm... ok? Nissan is owned by Renault. The VQ35DE in 350Z is a Nissan engine, nothing to do with Renault.

XplosiveR6 · 21-12-2005, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairmont99

We're talking about a 1960s Mustang here, I think anything from then on would be relevent. EF aren't in production anymore either, you're living in the past Dave, quit living in the past. The Clevo must be crap it's old

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seriously, grow up and actually read what i wrote.
I'm not even going to bother replying to that rubbish

xdclevo · 21-12-2005, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Gammaboy

(* By crapper I mean made more Hosspower, because clearly power is crap :P)

Forget the simulation and test the power properly, like it was intended for

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Gammaboy · 21-12-2005, 08:02 PM

yeah yeah, will get to the strip (somehow) after summernats....

xdclevo · 21-12-2005, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Gammaboy

yeah yeah, will get to the strip (somehow) after summernats....

I like your style :Up_to_som

smoo · 22-12-2005, 11:10 AM

Disgusting. Those movies have a tendency to wreck the better cars in them, those being the muscle cars. It probably makes the Civic drivers feel special.

Don't have anything against the engine, just not in one of Americas finest.

DivHunter · 22-12-2005, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by EF_Dave

seriously, grow up and actually read what i wrote.
I'm not even going to bother replying to that rubbish

Yet you felt you had to reply anyway.

When you post Dave, hilarity ensues. Perhaps it is you who should grow up and do some research.

A reminder of the average times the Ford turbos are/were getting http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...2&page=2&pp=25

Stocker 350z
2003 Nissan 350z 5.4 14.1
2004 Nissan 350z Roadster 5.7 14.3
2004 Nissan 350Z 5.3 13.77 (M.T. Mar '04)
2005 Nissan 350Z 35th Anniversary Edition 6 Speed 5.8 14.3 (C&D Apr '05)

Not so stock 350z
http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan--350Z-Drag-Racing.html

Now explain your definition of 'kill'. Don't be such a fanboy.

Zedjay · 22-12-2005, 11:43 AM

what if it was a toyota quad cam V8??
the reason i ask is because the car in my Avatar (CM Regal)has one
ive also seen one in a Charger and an EA .
ive also seen a rb26dett in a VF valiant

although the toyota motor still sounds cool and is a HEMI lol

Steffo · 22-12-2005, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fairmont99

Yet you felt you had to reply anyway.

When you post Dave, hilarity ensues. Perhaps it is you who should grow up and do some research.

A reminder of the average times the Ford turbos are/were getting http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...2&page=2&pp=25

Stocker 350z
2003 Nissan 350z 5.4 14.1
2004 Nissan 350z Roadster 5.7 14.3
2004 Nissan 350Z 5.3 13.77 (M.T. Mar '04)
2005 Nissan 350Z 35th Anniversary Edition 6 Speed 5.8 14.3 (C&D Apr '05)

Not so stock 350z
http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan--350Z-Drag-Racing.html

Now explain your definition of 'kill'. Don't be such a fanboy.

I never thought I'd ever say this to anyone... but... here goes...

Get your head out of magazine's! Typhoon is MUCH faster then 14 flat in real life, and so is the XR6 Turbo, XR8 and GT.

And any of them, in a drag race against a 350Z, will beat it to shreads, period. In gear acceleration, standing start... any type of drag race you want they will eat the 350Z alive.

Des · 22-12-2005, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

I never thought I'd ever say this to anyone... but... here goes...Get your head out of magazine's!

I think I need to sit down....

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GTS_300_Coupe · 22-12-2005, 01:11 PM

Looks like this thread has overserved its purpose. Time for a lock.

DivHunter · 22-12-2005, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

I never thought I'd ever say this to anyone... but... here goes...

Get your head out of magazine's! Typhoon is MUCH faster then 14 flat in real life, and so is the XR6 Turbo, XR8 and GT.

And any of them, in a drag race against a 350Z, will beat it to shreads, period. In gear acceleration, standing start... any type of drag race you want they will eat the 350Z alive.

I was comparing like to like and I didn't say the 350Z was faster. It was said that there are no fast nissans, that Japan doesn't produce fast cars anymore. This is clearly false and was just more rubbishing other cars because offense was taken to a RB converted 'stang. The second link are times not out of a magazine, these are not slow times either.

"Vinny Ten put the NHRA points leader Brad Personett on the trailer in one of the biggest upsets of the year with a 6.64 at 213 MPH in the second round of eliminations. The Retina Searing Orange 350Z was also the first Nissan in history to run 6 seconds in competition with a 6.90 at 208 MPH in the first round of eliminations against Matt Hartford." I don't know, does a 6 second pass seem slow to you?

Talking crap about other cars because you don't like what someone did with another manufacturers engine is a bit stupid don't you think?

DivHunter · 22-12-2005, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GTS_300_Coupe

Looks like this thread has overserved its purpose. Time for a lock.

Either report the thread and leave it at that or add something to the discussion, what a pointless post. Locking topics is for admins and moderators not some random to post what they think should be done with it.