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15-04-2010, 05:39 AM | #63 | |||
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15-04-2010, 05:41 AM | #64 | |||
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Some people are missing the point here, the father did nothing wrong, but copped a tiraid from an upstart cameraman. The cameraman deserves all he get, ******** journalism A media cameraman is there to record 'fact', not create news.
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15-04-2010, 06:23 AM | #65 | |||
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15-04-2010, 07:37 AM | #66 | |||
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Your still not getting the point. So there isnt much point is trying to discuss/ argue with you as you appear lost in another world with your focus on the 19yr old.... but i'll try again. It may sink in. You have little doubts do you? So the 19yr old wouldve simply bashed him for no reason? Again your missing the point and you must have missed the 10mins of harasment by the camera man towards they guys father and the insults.. So buy focussing on the criminals you mean harass them as they leave court for 10 to 15mins by jamming a camera in their face and making racial insults? Thereby inciting someone to act violently towards them? Not to mention putting them in a category of "terrorist" and locking them up for decades in jail without trial.... hmmm. The cameraman got his footage as the guy left the court. There was no need to follow them for 10 to 15mins. This wasnt the crime of the centuary The cameraman is supposed to be a professional who represents CH9, he DOES NOT represent the public. He had no right to harass or incite violence And he had no right to throw a racial insult at the guys father for NO REASON.
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15-04-2010, 08:20 AM | #67 | ||
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or maybe the camera man himself :alien2:
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15-04-2010, 09:13 AM | #68 | ||
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again with the assumptions I have friends who are of middle eastern origin I don’t care what race the teenager was he is still criminal scum, and yes I am firmly against alcohol when it is used to get so intoxicated that the person behaves in an antisocial manner. The safe recreational use I alcohol I have no issue with but why you brought up alcohol here I have no idea. Like others in this thread when you encounter an opinion different to yours you find it difficult to come up with intelligent debate so instead you rely on insults and assumptions. I feel truly sorry for you limited capacity intelligent debate. what really makes it sad is that a moderator resorts to insults , a mod should know better
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15-04-2010, 09:32 AM | #69 | ||
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Au3xr6 is entitled to his opinion.
The cameraman was totally within his rights to film the alledged criminal as he left the court. He legally had the right to follow him with the camera as long as he wanted to in a public place. He did however step over the line calling the father a terrorist to get a reaction, but things are said in the heat of the moment all the time and think the whole thing is being blown ay out of proportion. The guy has been fired what more do people want I think the fact the guy has lost his livelihood for a throw away word is a pretty harsh penalty when the alledged criminal will probably walk away from court with nothing. Really the father and son should have just kept walking away and it should never have got to the point of trading insults etc, but they chose to keep turning back to tell the cameraman to go away. |
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An attempt at an intelligent retort when struggling really isn't one of your greatest ideas, especially considering you went nowhere near pulling it off.
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Lets say, hypothetically au3xr6 you had a son, your son took part in the easternats riot was caught went to trial and you walked out with him out of the court and this happen.
And then you ( lets pretend you were muslim as we know at this time in our history people are a little insecure around some due to the world situation at present) you were confronted by this cameraman and after 15 minutes of harrassing you he called you a fn terrorist, What would you have done? Would you still have the same opinion. |
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15-04-2010, 01:14 PM | #72 | |||
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I feel my time would be wasted writing an essay trying to educate the village idiot. your arguement is so outlandish (he brought the racial abuse on himself by asking to be left alone) its hard to know where to start.
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15-04-2010, 03:07 PM | #73 | |||
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15-04-2010, 03:20 PM | #74 | |||
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As for the person saying AU3xr6 is a closet racist, i see nothing to back that up. Last edited by jeep_by_ford; 15-04-2010 at 03:26 PM. |
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15-04-2010, 03:27 PM | #75 | |||
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15-04-2010, 03:30 PM | #76 | ||
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I see no issue with taking footage of an alledged criminal. I bet you wouldnt be saying it was wrong if they were showing a pedophile or rapist on the news.
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15-04-2010, 03:33 PM | #77 | |||
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15-04-2010, 03:41 PM | #79 | |||
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If they said the rioter or the criminal than yes but as long as they state alleged it is acceptable by law. |
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15-04-2010, 03:41 PM | #80 | |||
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See nothing wrong with a quick snippet on the news of someone running away from the camera ... quite entertaining sometimes .... but this is very wrong and next time you see it you can ask what part are they not showing.
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15-04-2010, 04:54 PM | #82 | ||
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Media are a bunch of scum bags, especially the cameramen.
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15-04-2010, 05:01 PM | #83 | ||
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a certain tabloid current events program probably, 15 years ago, maybe more, harassed a relative of mine, accusing him of dodgy business practice on the 'tip off' from one uneducated ignoramus who was spouting BS for publicity. The crew went around, followed him all day provoking him, then when he finally got home, they came up to him again harassing and accusing him further, so he pointed away from the house saying basically 'get off my property', the cameraman then ran into his hand at speed as they were jogging after him. the segment was screened stating that my relative had punched the camera, thus the bleeding hand. |
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15-04-2010, 05:01 PM | #84 | ||
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I reckon it's time that there was a media exclusion zone of say 100 metres around every courthouse. It makes me angry seeing people harassed by camera/sound men/reporters from the various media outlets - in most cases just for a "newsworthy" reaction.
People appearing in court should not have to put up with a media frenzy before their case is even heard/decided. Let the courts release their findings to the media - instead of the media scrum (or scum more accurately) that we currently have to endure. |
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15-04-2010, 05:35 PM | #85 | |||
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However, they riled the pair up, snipped out the harassment and the father being called a F'n terrorist and showed the reaction - which any normal viewer would have assumed happened without provocation and made a judgement on them based on it. For me, the judgement I would have made on the shown footage and the unedited footage would be opposites - and that's the skew the news department manipulated to make. Going further, I honestly don't see the need to stick a camera in the face of someone leaving from court - report it, fine. I'm sure it was a trying time (npi) for those involved, leave them be. |
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15-04-2010, 05:59 PM | #88 | |||
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But its commercial television, so naturally news comes second to ethics. Yet it seems to work, ACA and TT have been going for a long time with their 'hard hitting' journalism....you know what bra is good for you!! Ch9 have moved this rubbish over to their news service the slot is a big money maker for advertising. The cameraman (while a tool) is a scapegoat as I'm sure he would be instructed to do this rubbish. Mind you Ch7 is no better.
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15-04-2010, 06:15 PM | #89 | |||
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I am not here to make a moral judgement on if the media should show alleged offenders on the news or not, I also wont make moral judgements on people who take what the media present at face value as most people are aware of the medias tactics to get a reaction. I dont make the law that decides what can and cant be filmed, all i have done is pointed out the reality of the situation that the cameraman engaged in perfectly legal behavior until he got to that line and crossed it. If you have an issue with my post Rod take it up with the govt, they make the rules not me. |
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