Bracks to resign - Page 3

Bearman · 27-07-2007, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Casper

Good bye Bracks. Dont worry. As the most ineffectual and useless premier of all time you will soon be forgotten. Think of your career in office as a fart in an elevator... horrible and annoying at the time but soon forgotten after we all get to breath fresh air again.

Dont let the door hit you in the butt on the way out.

Couldn't have said it better myself!!!!

I can't for the life of me understand how he ever got in and stayed in for as long as he did. I'm just spewing his demise wasn't a humiliating drubbing at the ballot box because then I could say I had a hand in him going.

Doubly good news that Thwaites has followed him out the door!!

A GREAT DAY FOR VICTORIA!!!

Full Spectrum · 27-07-2007, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

Actually when he beat Kennett they didnt...
Its history now but its a commonly held belief that most people only voted for bracks to scare Kennett, not actually oust him.. no one actually wanted bracks in, they just wanted to scare Kennett into going a bit easier....
The problem was too many people actually voted for him but for the wrong reasons...

LOL

.. I guy with no emotion doesn't scare easy;).

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Originally Posted by ClevlndStemer

I'm a Victorian and honestly didn't mind Bracks and co, sure they made bad decisions at times but then what government hasn't? I guess only time will tell what will happen now.

I didnt mind the guy also, At times he pist me off but the state is running fine it's not falling apart.. And i also haven't got a fine in his time:P.. And i live 300meters from the ring road and use it all the time, Plus i pass the camera's everyday and if you doing the speed limit you wont be caught

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calaway · 27-07-2007, 07:00 PM

This issue is not about Bracks and who he is and what he has done. This is about misleading the Victorian public that they were voting for the leader of a political party who has pulled the plug not even a year into his term.

And for his second in charge, one time potential 'Leader' to also resign, somethings not right here.

MethodX · 27-07-2007, 07:30 PM

Damn shame.
Little johnyys Imperialism and picking on Vic strikes again.

4Vman · 27-07-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by calaway

This issue is not about Bracks and who he is and what he has done. This is about misleading the Victorian public that they were voting for the leader of a political party who has pulled the plug not even a year into his term.

And for his second in charge, one time potential 'Leader' to also resign, somethings not right here.

Very true, i think he'll be most remembered for sailing alone nicely on the back of initiatives and infrastructure projects created by the Govt he replaced...

Bucknaked · 27-07-2007, 07:40 PM

Anyone has Bracks email address. Send him a link

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ED Classic · 27-07-2007, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

Very true, i think he'll be most remembered for sailing alone nicely on the back of initiatives and infrastructure projects created by the Govt he replaced...

And that previous Government left a fortune in surplass's which is probably gone long by now hence the national record we pay in stamp duties, fines and tax's. Well Brumby was the one in charge of it and now hes leading the state unellected :( 3 Years of a premier no one voted in as premier

saber · 27-07-2007, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick_Aussie

I didnt mind the guy also, At times he pist me off but the state is running fine it's not falling apart.. And i also haven't got a fine in his time:P.. And i live 300meters from the ring road and use it all the time, Plus i pass the camera's everyday and if you doing the speed limit you wont be caught

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Agree with you 100%. The state is running fine, and I too never received a fine. If ya don't speed ya wont get fined!!!

MoreHPformyXR6 · 27-07-2007, 08:15 PM

Over her in South OZ where Mike Rann holds power he tell's me " Eddie" is going to fill Brack's shoes.

cool65 · 27-07-2007, 08:19 PM

Teflon Steve has finally seen that the coating is wearing off!!
It's squishy, it's brown and smells like ....
Your spin machine has run out of juice and the public is fed up with the
"I'll look into it and get back to you" game
The only legacy you will leave is the highest fining g'ment ever
now f... o... and don't look back

Dezza · 27-07-2007, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by saber

Agree with you 100%. The state is running fine, and I too never received a fine. If ya don't speed ya wont get fined!!!

I have never been done by a speed camera, but it's the principle why I hate the things. For someone to get a fine of a few hundred dollars for doing 103 in a 100 zone is very rough, particularly with car speedometers having a 10% margin of error. The speed cameras have also been found to have inaccuracies, the biggest example of this being a woman who proved her Datsun couldn't go anywhere near the speed she was supposedly caught doing. They aren't reliable at all, and it's all about revenue.

I can't say I'm going to miss Bracks. When he was voted in over Kennett, I thought it would be good for the state because Kennett wasn't great either. According to Kennett, the state of Victoria ended at the Melbourne suburbs. While new buildings were popping up all over Melbourne, the country was missing out completely. Coming from the country, I know this first hand. Roads were constantly getting patched up, but were rarely resurfaced. There were patchup jobs on top of patchup jobs. While Bracks has been a little bit better for the country, he still didn't do enough for it. The fact is, I'd like to see the day when a politician comes into power with the general public's welfare being his number 1 priority. As it is now, the number 1 priority is greed.

mik · 27-07-2007, 08:51 PM

i did`nt mind bracks too much compared to howard he seemed like a saint (FLAME SUIT ON)

chevypower · 27-07-2007, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by saber

Agree with you 100%. The state is running fine, and I too never received a fine. If ya don't speed ya wont get fined!!!

Tell that to the driver of a Datsun 120Y, a bus driver and a truck driver who all got fined for impossible speeds. Now they are the obvious ones, what about all the others that aren't so obviously inaccurate?

Nostalgia · 27-07-2007, 09:48 PM

Lets hope it comes in three's. Bracks, Thwaites and drumroll please............................... Its time to go, COWARD. oops i meant HOWARD.

Auslandau · 27-07-2007, 10:01 PM

Apparently he was going to quit before the last election. He formed a committee 9 months ago and its taken this long for a decision to be made ......

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Nostalgia · 27-07-2007, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by auslandau

Apparently he was going to quit before the last election. He formed a committee 9 months ago and its taken this long for a decision to be made ......

Thats alot quicker than most of his other decisions.

**Full Noise** · 27-07-2007, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevlndStemer

I'm a Victorian and honestly didn't mind Bracks and co, sure they made bad decisions at times but then what government hasn't? I guess only time will tell what will happen now.

In my John McEnroe voice, “you can’t be serious”?

When your kids are 50 years old and paying to use Eastlink, remind them of who you voted for.

Lets all take a look at some of Super Steve’s achievements in government.

Mitcham Frankston freeway “cough cough” Tollway.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...29/1076568.htm

The regional fast rail project that was originally only going to cost around 80 Million. Last count was at around 750 million. And it isn’t even fast.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/nation...796469419.html

Let’s not forget Land Tax.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/20...838277853.html

Thanks Bracksy.

Dr Smith · 27-07-2007, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ea_silver_ghia

I have never been done by a speed camera, but it's the principle why I hate the things. For someone to get a fine of a few hundred dollars for doing 103 in a 100 zone is very rough, particularly with car speedometers having a 10% margin of error.

You don't get a fine for driving at 103 in a 100 zone, you have a detected speed which is above the Police set threshold to which they then deduct the set threshhold to arrive at your alleged speed which might then come down to 103. So in actual fact you need to be travelling closer to 110 in a 100 zone. The alleged speed, after all deductions is the speed you would then have to defend in court or settle the fine over.

**Polyal** · 27-07-2007, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mik

i did`nt mind bracks too much compared to howard he seemed like a saint (FLAME SUIT ON)

You suited up yet?

Who wants a saint, I want a hard a$$ that will bust his balls and those who stand in his way.

Kennett FTW.

Something very odd about it all. I heard Brack's cited "family reasons".

ClevlndStemer · 27-07-2007, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Full Noise

In my John McEnroe voice, “you can’t be serious”?

When your kids are 50 years old and paying to use Eastlink, remind them of who you voted for.

Lets all take a look at some of Super Steve’s achievements in government.

Mitcham Frankston freeway “cough cough” Tollway.

I didn't say he was perfect but then I mean who put the tollway on the Monash from after Toorak Rd onwards? Wasn't that road already there? As far as I am aware the Eastlink project is a whole new roadway which I probably won't ever use.

Yes land tax and stamp duty, etc, shocking and just full of greed. So is the GST. I mean we could go on forever criticising all of them but what is it going to achieve? As i said I didn't mind Bracks. I guess I considered him the lesser of two evils and I guess I obeyed the speed limits ;)

SpoolMan · 27-07-2007, 11:44 PM

Fair bit of tit for tat here, not all policies are going to suite everyone this is why we vote for the side we want..
who gave us the tolls 1st and tolled a existing road being the Tulla free way, who was the 1st to come to power and put on a $100 house tax...

Brack's Elected democratically how many times?..... kicked out the cocky politician (JK) who thought he was safer than the city bank volt..
well done to Steve Bracks done a good job and made it a fairer state to live in....
At least he knew the time was right, some of others on both sides of politics should take the same lead, Federal and State.
Victoria now lacks politicians who like they can be a leader..

Dezza · 27-07-2007, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Smith

You don't get a fine for driving at 103 in a 100 zone, you have a detected speed which is above the Police set threshold to which they then deduct the set threshhold to arrive at your alleged speed which might then come down to 103. So in actual fact you need to be travelling closer to 110 in a 100 zone. The alleged speed, after all deductions is the speed you would then have to defend in court or settle the fine over.

It's still within 10% though

**Charliewool** · 27-07-2007, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevlndStemer

I didn't say he was perfect but then I mean who put the tollway on the Monash from after Toorak Rd onwards? Wasn't that road already there? As far as I am aware the Eastlink project is a whole new roadway which I probably won't ever use.

Yes land tax and stamp duty, etc, shocking and just full of greed. So is the GST. I mean we could go on forever criticising all of them but what is it going to achieve? As i said I didn't mind Bracks. I guess I considered him the lesser of two evils and I guess I obeyed the speed limits ;)

Mate, I'll harp til the end of the earth on this one!...... Been banging heads with Bracks, Thwaites, and Co for too long
DO YOU wash your car mate?, Water your garden?... This frigging bunch of bozos are ENTIRELY to blame for this water crisis!... Forget the weather!... Our elected government's role is FIRST & foremost to PROVIDE essential services.. OUR taxes pay for this....
IF, (and thank god it did) it hadn't rained in the last month, we were to put it bluntly... SHAGGED!... Bracks gambled on this.. (and HE KNEW)
Gambled on our most basic, our most fundamental resource!.... (and we wonder why "water wally" Thwaites also jumped ship?)
Sorry guys, but I am extremely passionate about this!....

Auslandau · 28-07-2007, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SpoolMan

Fair bit of tit for tat here, not all policies are going to suite everyone this is why we vote for the side we want..
who gave us the tolls 1st and tolled a existing road being the Tulla free way, who was the 1st to come to power and put on a $100 house tax...

Brack's Elected democratically how many times?..... kicked out the cocky politician (JK) who thought he was safer than the city bank volt..
well done to Steve Bracks done a good job and made it a fairer state to live in....
At least he knew the time was right, some of others on both sides of politics should take the same lead, Federal and State.
Victoria now lacks politicians who like they can be a leader..

Nope they dont suit everyone and thats why it makes for good banter! (and isnt always a good thing on forums!)

The tolls were discussed during an election and JK was elected knowing they were to be tolled. Scoresby F'way went to the polls with Brax stating it will be a freeway ....... thats the difference. $100 household fee was for two years and wasnt very nice and peed quite a few off but was a result from the Kirner years debacle.

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Nostalgia · 28-07-2007, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by charliewool

Mate, I'll harp til the end of the earth on this one!...... Been banging heads with Bracks, Thwaites, and Co for too long
DO YOU wash your car mate?, Water your garden?... This frigging bunch of bozos are ENTIRELY to blame for this water crisis!... Forget the weather!... Our elected government's role is FIRST & foremost to PROVIDE essential services.. OUR taxes pay for this....
IF, (and thank god it did) it hadn't rained in the last month, we were to put it bluntly... SHAGGED!... Bracks gambled on this.. (and HE KNEW)
Gambled on our most basic, our most fundamental resource!.... (and we wonder why "water wally" Thwaites also jumped ship?)
Sorry guys, but I am extremely passionate about this!....

Mate, i totally agree with everything you said. Bloody SPOT ON.

Full Spectrum · 28-07-2007, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ea_silver_ghia

I have never been done by a speed camera, but it's the principle why I hate the things. For someone to get a fine of a few hundred dollars for doing 103 in a 100 zone is very rough, particularly with car speedometers having a 10% margin of error. The speed cameras have also been found to have inaccuracies, the biggest example of this being a woman who proved her Datsun couldn't go anywhere near the speed she was supposedly caught doing. They aren't reliable at all, and it's all about revenue.

I can't say I'm going to miss Bracks. When he was voted in over Kennett, I thought it would be good for the state because Kennett wasn't great either. According to Kennett, the state of Victoria ended at the Melbourne suburbs. While new buildings were popping up all over Melbourne, the country was missing out completely. Coming from the country, I know this first hand. Roads were constantly getting patched up, but were rarely resurfaced. There were patchup jobs on top of patchup jobs. While Bracks has been a little bit better for the country, he still didn't do enough for it. The fact is, I'd like to see the day when a politician comes into power with the general public's welfare being his number 1 priority. As it is now, the number 1 priority is greed.

Ok easy, How does a bank deposit $500,000 into a sole parent pensioner of 3 children's account? Mistakes happen and always will..

Roads i live in the out west and i have never in my life seen so much road works in the last 12 months.. I can't count the time we have slowed down below 50 or had lanes closed while they resurface or exstend roads.. But still the back streets suffer..

But a leader for all just wont work, People like that would be loved and you can't be a polly and be kind to all it just doesn't sit well with them.

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Originally Posted by chevypower

Tell that to the driver of a Datsun 120Y, a bus driver and a truck driver who all got fined for impossible speeds. Now they are the obvious ones, what about all the others that aren't so obviously inaccurate?

Stuff like this has been happening for many years, You just don't hear them all until you introduce something contraversal.
Did you ever here about the phone company charging 1000 times for 1 single SMS? Or the phone company that sent the same SMS more then 20 times one year it wasn't 1 person it was spread.

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Originally Posted by SpoolMan

Fair bit of tit for tat here, not all policies are going to suite everyone this is why we vote for the side we want..
who gave us the tolls 1st and tolled a existing road being the Tulla free way, who was the 1st to come to power and put on a $100 house tax...

Brack's Elected democratically how many times?..... kicked out the cocky politician (JK) who thought he was safer than the city bank volt..
well done to Steve Bracks done a good job and made it a fairer state to live in....
At least he knew the time was right, some of others on both sides of politics should take the same lead, Federal and State.
Victoria now lacks politicians who like they can be a leader..

The worlds most liveable city back to back

He done allright and he didn't privatise my grandmothers house to make money:P..

SpoolMan · 28-07-2007, 12:43 AM

So the people who used the Tulla freeway for the last 25 years for free, were happy to start paying a toll...

The whole of Australia is having water problems blame Brack's for that too and speed camera's gee he has left a very bad legacy..

We always blame the last government for the present day mistakes this is politics.

Politics and religion you can debate this for 1000 years its always a no win situation..

**Charliewool** · 28-07-2007, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SpoolMan

The whole of Australia is having water problems blame Brack's for that too and speed camera's gee he has left a very bad legacy..

We always blame the last government for the present day mistakes this is politics.

Politics and religion you can debate this for 1000 years its always a no win situation..

Mark, Yes it IS a no-win arguement!.... Freeways, tollways, speed-cameras, hoon laws, smoking bans, survailance in every public used area (1984 cum true)
Damn sure either party would be pretty similar! (revenue IS revenue)

However, The water problem is an entirely different issue!... Bracks & Thwaites have had 3 years MINIMUM with being continually briefed, informed, advised., coerced, prompted.. almost BEGGED by experts in water sustainability that the water crisis was just THAT! .. A CRISIS! Head in the sand Bracks , Thwaites, Skinner of Melbourne Water... the lot of em are to blame for NOT heeding the warnings & predictions... Mark my words (no pun intended mate)... Water has been this pairs downfall....

SpoolMan · 28-07-2007, 01:16 AM

The above is going on in every State of Australia, banned smoking laws, tollways, lack of water, etc, ect.
If not being able to wash my car at home was his only mistake then in my book he has left on a high note and if you looks at the polls they would agree he went out on the top of his game, like all politicians he now has a nice tax payer super fund to look forward too....roll on the next pollie...

Kenaz · 28-07-2007, 01:26 AM

Bring back Jeff!