Falcon ute going? - Page 3

Brazen · 04-09-2011, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DASH GT

FPV are not selling 200 V8s a month... Not at the moment anyways.. They would be lucky to be moving 50...

As for Falcon ute dead, why? They could leave it as FG Series 1 and stlll sell 500 a month for the next 3 years.

I really hope they bring the XR8 ute back. Frankly I think the FPV GS has been a disaster in bringing new buyers to Ford, I suspect FPV GS buyers were always going to buy a FPV or Ford. Its the fence-sitting SS or SSV buyers who follow the latest flavour of the month trends who would be swayed by a XR8...

Plus there are no fricken rural FPV dealers!!! You are throwing away hundreds of potential sales by not having vehicles on the ground where people live. Bring back XR8 ute!!

StrikeTwiceXR6 · 04-09-2011, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 5.0

Jees, mines in vanish..im starting to think it might have been damaged in transit..was given an original time frame of 6 weeks though so can't really complain..unless its full of bog

Maybe it has "Vanished" lol. Sorry to hear buddy, it will be worth the wait. Trust me!

vztrt · 04-09-2011, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

If I want a sports ute I sure as ***** won't buy a Ranger.

I would only buy a Falcon/Commo ute. I drive these other utes for hlaf a day and feel stiff as a board.

I'd like to see what LPi does to ute sales. Egas was quite a big chunk of ute sales.

SpoolMan · 05-09-2011, 01:03 AM

Hope it's true, although not surprised the FG axles are poor quality and bend to easily compared to what was used for BA/BF.
Another supplier may fix this issue...

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Originally Posted by robbo/region15

4.Beam axle supplier not receiving any further purchase orders..
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Zero_PSI · 05-09-2011, 01:17 AM

Pfft. Yeah, and Ferrari are gonna start building Family cars.

FGX-351 · 05-09-2011, 05:20 AM

After reading about the potential of the new powertrains coming online I don't believe at all that we'll lose the ute.

To be completely honest I dont think we'll lose the falcon or rwd either for that matter.
It's all rumours and scare mongering!
Nothing but good things coming from ford!

aussie muscle · 05-09-2011, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Brazen

Plus there are no fricken rural FPV dealers!!!

it's a good point, i'd imagine there are more country drivers buying utes as a percentage of sales, but i imagine most get the XR6 anyway.

Ford PR · 05-09-2011, 03:39 PM

Hi everyone, Just thought that I'd dispel any rumours that are out there at the moment. Falcon remains an extremely important part of the Ford line-up. That’s why we’re continuing to invest in Falcon and Territory. As is normal practice, we are currently working our future model plans but don't expect to see anything about our future plans just yet. We hope you understand that we can't reveal any future strategies to our competitors.

Smoke Pursuit · 05-09-2011, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ford PR

Hi everyone, Just thought that I'd dispel any rumours that are out there at the moment. Falcon remains an extremely important part of the Ford line-up. That’s why we’re continuing to invest in Falcon and Territory. As is normal practice, we are currently working our future model plans but don't expect to see anything about our future plans just yet. We hope you understand that we can't reveal any future strategies to our competitors.

So will Falcon ute be staying beyond Feb 2012 like some of your suppliers suggest here?

I surely hope so

mr smith · 05-09-2011, 05:05 PM

Once people drive the new Ranger, Falcon ute will be gone. The only thing that Ranger type utes lack at the moment is the ride comfort, once this is sorted why buy a cramped, cant see out of properly, ute? It may stay for FG II but I bet development willl now stop, much the same way the panel van went.

Stazza_Brendan · 05-09-2011, 05:39 PM

Ranger also lacks a performance model. Like xr6 turbo or coyote.

nstg8a · 05-09-2011, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mr smith

Once people drive the new Ranger, Falcon ute will be gone. The only thing that Ranger type utes lack at the moment is the ride comfort, once this is sorted why buy a cramped, cant see out of properly, ute?.

i cant agree with that at all, not everyone that wants a ute, wants a high riding 4wd type ute.

SpoolMan · 05-09-2011, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

not everyone that wants a ute, wants a high riding 4wd type ute.

Correct, I love Utes & have had 3 since 2003, a Ranger is a long from the type of vehicle I want to drive, 2 different markets..

galaxy xr8 · 05-09-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Brazen

Plus there are no fricken rural FPV dealers!!! You are throwing away hundreds of potential sales by not having vehicles on the ground where people live. Bring back XR8 ute!!

Bendigo has a FPV authorised dealer.

Adamz Ghia · 05-09-2011, 07:17 PM

If there is a new Ute after this generation, perhaps they could go back to the way they used to be, with the tub integrated with the rest of the car like Holden's ute, which is a show pony rather than a work car... we have Ranger for the work market...

xr8lover · 05-09-2011, 07:17 PM

Just curious, how many of you guys who are positive of Falcon's future actually work in the automotive industry?, I ain't saying who I work for suffice to say we are a major supplier to Ford and believe me, the news we are recieving from Ford does NOT bode well guys!.

mr smith · 05-09-2011, 07:21 PM

My thoughts are as the 4WD type utes become more refined and I belive the new Ranger will be a game changer, the average ute buyer will move away from sedan based utes. Ford and eventually GM will not resource for a small market for which will ultimately be a performace car.
I feel that the One Ford model is very closely based on Toyotas model. If you want a Toyota ute pretty much world wide it will be a Hilux or maybe a Landcruiser. Same car sold all over the world.
I have moved from two new Falcon utes over the last 6 years to the current Ranger. I couldnt go back. A little more power, a quieter ride and more suspension compliance and they will have a life time customer, and dont even start with the relabilty between the two.

Road_Warrior · 05-09-2011, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by xr8lover

Just curious, how many of you guys who are positive of Falcon's future actually work in the automotive industry?, I ain't saying who I work for suffice to say we are a major supplier to Ford and believe me, the news we are recieving from Ford does NOT bode well guys!.

Well it might not bode well for you if Ford is going with a different supplier...

xr8lover · 05-09-2011, 08:28 PM

tell me "bout it!, lost work from Mitsubishi, GMH, sad state of affairs in this country, may as well go and buy crappy Korean junk..........

kevino · 05-09-2011, 08:43 PM

Are you saying Korean parts are junk vs Aussie made parts?
What about Cruze-good or bad?

yift · 05-09-2011, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kevino

Are you saying Korean parts are junk vs Aussie made parts?
What about Cruze-good or bad?

drive a cruze then drive a focus and tell me if korean is better than european.

kevino · 05-09-2011, 09:20 PM

Nah, got 2 focuses now and owned a 2004 before.
Dont like the asthmatic 1.8 in the Cruze nor the idea of a 1.4 tsi motor and the Peugeot/Ford 2 litre diesel is definitely more flexible (torque at lower revs) than the Cruze diesel.
But Cruze outsells Focus 3 to 1.

robbo/region15 · 05-09-2011, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by xr8lover

Just curious, how many of you guys who are positive of Falcon's future actually work in the automotive industry?, I ain't saying who I work for suffice to say we are a major supplier to Ford and believe me, the news we are recieving from Ford does NOT bode well guys!.

Just not the News we get from within Barry Rd,the other Tier suppliers all over Vic are getting the same news & views.Global sourcing is bigger than anyone can imagine,not good for Victorians as a whole,wait and see.

SteveJH · 05-09-2011, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by xr8lover

Just curious, how many of you guys who are positive of Falcon's future actually work in the automotive industry?, I ain't saying who I work for suffice to say we are a major supplier to Ford and believe me, the news we are recieving from Ford does NOT bode well guys!.

Ford PR (post 68) suggests otherwise.

Bossxr8 · 05-09-2011, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DASH GT

FPV are not selling 200 V8s a month... Not at the moment anyways.. They would be lucky to be moving 50...

As for Falcon ute dead, why? They could leave it as FG Series 1 and stlll sell 500 a month for the next 3 years.

I beg to differ. They would easily be doing at least 150+ a month. Things have really picked up over the past few months for FPV.

nstg8a · 05-09-2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamz Ghia

If there is a new Ute after this generation, perhaps they could go back to the way they used to be, with the tub integrated with the rest of the car like Holden's ute, which is a show pony rather than a work car... we have Ranger for the work market...

even though the holden ute is quite commonly referred to as the show pony of the two, doesnt it actually have a higher load rating than the more 'worker' oriented ford?

ive never been a fan of the separate tray but you cant argue with its usefulness.

Road_Warrior · 05-09-2011, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by robbo/region15

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Just not the News we get from within Barry Rd,the other Tier suppliers all over Vic are getting the same news & views.Global sourcing is bigger than anyone can imagine,not good for Victorians as a whole,wait and see.

And there it is.

It seems we are now finding out the true meaning of 'One Ford'.

vztrt · 05-09-2011, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

even though the holden ute is quite commonly referred to as the show pony of the two, doesnt it actually have a higher load rating than the more 'worker' oriented ford?

ive never been a fan of the separate tray but you cant argue with its usefulness.

Compare base models and the Falcon destroys the Commo ute. The XR vs S models then they're rated about the same, but this is apparently because of tyres on the Falcon that are causing the lower load capacity.

Bossxr8 · 05-09-2011, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

even though the holden ute is quite commonly referred to as the show pony of the two, doesnt it actually have a higher load rating than the more 'worker' oriented ford?

ive never been a fan of the separate tray but you cant argue with its usefulness.

Falcon tray back can carry 1.2 tonne. The most the Commode can do is around 800kg.

The SS can carry a little more than the XR's but put that down to the load rating of the tyres more than anything.

Bossxr8 · 05-09-2011, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ford PR

Hi everyone, Just thought that I'd dispel any rumours that are out there at the moment. Falcon remains an extremely important part of the Ford line-up. That’s why we’re continuing to invest in Falcon and Territory. As is normal practice, we are currently working our future model plans but don't expect to see anything about our future plans just yet. We hope you understand that we can't reveal any future strategies to our competitors.

Are Ford planning on doing anything to dispel the viscious rumours that have been circulating about Ford Australia's/Falcons demise, or are they going to continue saying nothing until it becomes so bad that no one would even consider buying one due to all the negative sentiment.

The ABC killed Mitsubishi with a lot of negative stories, have Ford learnt nothing. And they probably wonder why Falcon isn't selling. Constant negative stories in the media, and Ford continues to do nothing to dispel them.