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Old 11-12-2006, 12:46 PM   #61
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I left my camera in the car :S

I did see a couple of people wandering around with cameras tho, post up your pics!!!
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Old 11-12-2006, 12:48 PM   #62
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Dezza, I guess it's fair enough you didn't attend. Your EA wouldn't have cleared the roof of the dyno shed anyway :P
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Old 11-12-2006, 05:20 PM   #63
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hey grechie, what was you intake and air temp??
can you post up you run??
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Old 11-12-2006, 06:13 PM   #64
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Mr 4.0 here is my dyno reading, and also the a/f ratio dyno reading...i dont know wot my temps were, were do i find that ?




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Old 11-12-2006, 06:23 PM   #65
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Mr 4.0 here is my dyno reading, and also the a/f ratio dyno reading...i dont know wot my temps were, were do i find that ?




your air temp was 29 intake temp was 37
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Old 11-12-2006, 06:28 PM   #66
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ah i see now thanx jason
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Old 11-12-2006, 06:29 PM   #67
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mine was air temp 33 intake temp 43 so im guessing that there is heaps of room for improvement

ill scan and email it to someone to post it for me as im having dramas with my comp and i cant upload pics can someone pm an email addy to send it to

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Old 11-12-2006, 06:34 PM   #68
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hrmmm.....after looking at grechies, my AFR is shocking. mine starts at 14.0 and goes as low as 11.5 and then back up to 12.3.

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE CHIPTOURQE!!!!
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Nice AFR mate! (and rwkw)

I notice your AT & IT were lower than mine, but your run was during a hotter part of the day... maybe the shed had some kind of latent heat factor going on...

Anyway here's mine:



That dip in the 95-110kph range is due to the car running lean between 2000-4000rpm. It's at its worst between 3000-3500rpm, which is 95-100kph for me.

EDIT: it was done in 3rd gear, not 4th.
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mine was the 3rd car to run, so it was pretty early in the moarning, around 11 i think it was ! thanks Ghia5L tho, im real happy now...

Mr 4.0, yea i hope you get that fixed up, i got my A/F ratio by asking them , and they printed out free of charge another reading with it on n said it had a smooth combustion.
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Old 11-12-2006, 06:46 PM   #71
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shouldnt my car of pinged?
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Not really. 14.0 is a little lean, but as you said it started there and then got rich-ish.
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Old 11-12-2006, 07:53 PM   #73
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grechie, nice flat AFR curve there mate! Looks like a sweet combo

AT vs IT looks intresting though
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grechie, nice flat AFR curve there mate! Looks like a sweet combo

AT vs IT looks intresting though

thanks walkinshaw, im pretty happy seeing as efgiar, his bro and i lowered the timing to stock 3 days b4 and it was running like a pig coz it couldnt adjust proply, but i drove it heaps and by the dyno, it settled it self out !
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ill try again i stuffed it

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Old 11-12-2006, 09:04 PM   #76
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Walkinshaw, do you know how much adjustment is made over a 8 degree difference in AT vs IT at that kind of temperature?
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take 2

here is mine



hope it works this time

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here is mine

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/Grechie/File0010.jpg[/IMG]
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Old 11-12-2006, 09:38 PM   #79
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yeah sorry man AdzELXR, i couldnt help my self but state my opininon.
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Im very dissapointed with my result. Too upset to say. It made over 100rwkw tho. It running very lean. Hope everyone had a great time. I did at the start. A lot of impressive results minus mine, Well done guys especially Jason and Grechie.
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AT vs IT looks intresting though
Same thoughts here...

Were they putting the temperature probs into the intake on every dyno run?

And a dyno - particularly when running in shootout mode - will produce the same figure (or within 1 or 2kw) on any occasion, hot or cold. There are built in temperature, barometric, etc, etc correction factors to compensate for the differences.

I was going to come down to watch - maybe for a run - but the 5am bedtime and 1pm wake up stopped that. Always good watching some Fords make a decent amount of noise on a dyno.
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yer they were. my intake temp was 34. and outside temp was 35. guess my CAi really works, lol
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Well here is my graph, I found out the other day why my results where fairly good, the exhaust shop didn't have time to put a thing on my car that goes meow!

That will be fixed tomorrow, so I expect my figure to drop ~5kw's apparently.



I didn't get an AFR graph, will have to pop down again and see them.

My intake sucks donkey's balls as its gone up 6 degrees, or is that normal?
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most ppl had a intake rise like that one.
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Did anybody get pics?
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Well it should make sense. Hot day, car engine bays remain hot after cars are turned off outside dyno shop. Cars are then started up and driven onto the rollers at low speed, causing the engine bay to remain hot. OK, so there are people with cold air intakes, but the heat of the engine bay should still have an impact on the temperature readings for a stock/ish intake.

Your reading puzzles me Mr 4.0 :P

*EDIT* oh, and like Krys said, (car pics)
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lol @ car pics in brackets, I know you mean peoples girlfriends Dave!
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remeber though that my extractors and intake pipe are all ceramic coated inside and out though.
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No, I meant cars, honest!

but if anyone is obliging...
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remeber though that my extractors and intake pipe are all ceramic coated inside and out though.
But... since when does an engine run at temperatures lower than ambient?
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