417 km/h on German Autobahn

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by pwr4ce

Once upon a time someone with a lamp had to walk in front of a motor vehicle for safety purposes - perhaps history is going to repeat itself ?


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We already are....... now have to be escorted into the quarry by a guy in a small car with red flags and beacon lights.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I'm never going to forgive him for creating VW.

I love VW's, in fact I have owned 3, 2 Beetles, a 1956 and a 1972 and a late 1960's VW Variant (wagon)

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

We already are....... now have to be escorted into the quarry by a guy in a small car with red flags and beacon lights.

WHS/OHS rules - the operators can't see you in a truck but they can see a 'small car with red flags and beacon lights'

I bet you have to have a beacon too

[roKWiz]

Its funny people banging on about how fast they should be allowed to drive on our crap roads, meanwhile over on the petrol price thread we are complaining about the price of fuel.
Geeze at 130km/h + on hwy's I reckon the fuel tanks going to empty alot quicker.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

WHS/OHS rules - the operators can't see you in a truck but they can see a 'small car with red flags and beacon lights'

I bet you have to have a beacon too

Yes beacons, CB, HiVis, hard hat, ERPIB, lifejacket, fuffy dice.

Apparently a directive from insurance companies started this, so yeah OHaS.
All started from an invincible cocky bloke (age withheld) who decided he was going to pick stone behind a working rockhammer excavator.

sorry back to topic.....

[GO FURTHER]

Imagine the cost, and special high speed rating on the tyres needed to do 417 Km/h.!

Not your average tyre found at your local Bob Jane T-mart.

Would not want a tyre blowout at that speed.

Anyone want to try it on Winruns?

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

Yes beacons, CB, HiVis, hard hat, ERPIB, lifejacket, fuffy dice.

Originally Posted by roKWiz

Apparently a directive from insurance companies started this, so yeah OHaS.
All started from an invincible cocky bloke (age withheld) who decided he was going to pick stone behind a working rockhammer excavator.

does he age start with 'M' and he was born after the mid 1980's?

[slowsnake]

Originally Posted by Junkyard-Dog

As a Kraut myself, I know very well how much better most European nations handle driver instruction but that's largely irrelevant here. All the skill in the world won't help this bloke if an obstacle appears in his path. The car may have incredible technological aids to assist the driver but that won't help much either if he runs over an oil slick and loses traction. At that speed, you would have no chance of reacting.

Look at Barry Sheen coming off his bike practising for the Daytona 200 in 1975, It made him famous, he doing 170 mph with the tyres on the "chicken strip" around a bend into the straight, they blame the tyres, but in his biography he said his tyre run over a " worm "
Have a look, damn heavy crash!

https://bangshift.com/bangshiftapex/...crash-in-1975/

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by GO FURTHER

Imagine the cost, and special high speed rating on the tyres needed to do 417 Km/h.!

Not your average tyre found at your local Bob Jane T-mart.

Would not want a tyre blowout at that speed.

Anyone want to try it on Winruns?

Depends on the tyre you need. For high speed acceleration you're gonna need the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2R TR tyres - at around $42k a set.

Front size: 285/30 R20 (99Y) Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2
Rear size: 355/25 R21 (107Y) Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2

https://www.tyreplex.com/news/does-b...et-legal-tyres

[ford71V8]

With the condition of the roads I use, I wouldn't like to go much faster than the speed limits....sometimes better to be under just to give you time to avoid all the potholes, cracks, poor bitumen work and raised manholes.
Even driving at night is the difference between getting home comfortably vs hard hits to the rims. Yet every time I turn a corner there is roadworks (and another reduced speed limit)

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by GO FURTHER

Imagine the cost, and special high speed rating on the tyres needed to do 417 Km/h.!

Not your average tyre found at your local Bob Jane T-mart.

Would not want a tyre blowout at that speed.

Anyone want to try it on Winruns?

Only have to watch truck daschcam footage on the tube after a front steer blows to see how this ends up.


**Trevor I gave you a thanks to answer your question.

[slowsnake]

Originally Posted by Junkyard-Dog

As long as we don't go back to when steam traction engines were forced to come to a complete halt, produce no noise and emit no steam any time a horse approached.

I know most of us don't drive our traction engines around as often as we'd like to (despite the cheap cost of coal) but if we go back to those days, I'm buying a horse. Or a zebra, if possible.

When I was in Adelaide in 1971 I got fined on the road past Parafield Airport, charge was failing to give way to a "horse"!
No ****, it come out of a road to my left, coppers got me about 20 seconds later, lol, I was 18 yrs old, long hair down my back and they gave me a nice touch up along with the fine, and " we give way to horses here, ya not in NSW now "

Had a good laugh about it, thems the breaks, I was really only just learning about life, good learning curve for what was to come later in my life?.....

[slowsnake]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

You can't even ride an e-scooter faster than 10km/h here, and there's been crackdowns on little kids with them.

There'll be someone chiming in about how dangerous 10km/h is on e-scooters soon and how irresponsible little children are.

Rules are made to be broken!
My friend was offered an electric scooter just yesterday, I was in her lounge when this idiot offered it, she said no of course, he said he has had it up to 90 klm?.....I said impossible, as in control, brakes etc, he insisted you can buy and beef them up?..anyone here verify that?

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Originally Posted by Wretched

With the kind of money he has, I wonder why he didn't try and rent Nardo Ring.

Probs coz it wouldn't get the same level of interest when he posted it to social media /Internet

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

Its funny people banging on about how fast they should be allowed to drive on our crap roads, meanwhile over on the petrol price thread we are complaining about the price of fuel.
Geeze at 130km/h + on hwy's I reckon the fuel tanks going to empty alot quicker.

I had an average speed of 106km/h across 732KM hotel driveway to home driveway on my last Adelaide trip, my fuel usage went up from 5.7L/100km to 6.1L/100km.

I think it'll start making a significant difference once you start pushing over the 150 mark for longer periods of time.

[Late braker]

I’ve driven the autobahns in a Merc- it’s a different world entirely. At first when I got on an autobahn I thought what’s so great but after about 2 mins the engineering of the road, the etiquette of ALL the other drivers and of course the brilliant car all crystallised to form the holy trinity of driving- the roads, driver training and the cars. The fastest I went was about 190 km/h and I was always sure to check the mirror. If you were a bit long in the fast lane (left lane) you would glimpse the flash from behind as the Audi/BMW/MB/Porsche came up. Most of them were in the 240+ range judging by the speed differential. I’ll remember it as a great eye opener as to just how backward we are here in every way.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

and I pointed out, quite clearly, albeit sarcastically that the road is open to anyone from around the world, with NO German training, in fact the driver of the Bugati is from Czechoslovakia, did he get his licence in Germany? or are you now going to tell me how hard it is get a licence in Czechoslovakia? What about the person who might inadvertently move into that lane being from a country where they drive on the left? Oh, that would never happen would it, or do they need a German licence to drive on the road too?

No need to yell at clouds, facts will beat that all the time, but your small-mindedness thinks its great to throw insults as a way of proving your point, but it just shows your level of intelligence or lack of it - you can't handle rational debate with facts and logic

What facts have you presented? None. Do you even know the level of testing german drivers require to get their licence. Maybe look it up. You might learn something.

[Junkyard-Dog]

I don't know which direction this thread is going in but if it's a wild ride that comes to a sudden stop,

at least we'll be back on topic.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

Only have to watch truck daschcam footage on the tube after a front steer blows to see how this ends up.

Steer tyre blowouts (at legal speeds) are fine so long as you're holding onto the steering wheel.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

What facts have you presented? None. Do you even know the level of testing german drivers require to get their licence. Maybe look it up. You might learn something.

I give up, you just don't get the fact that people from all over the world drive the road, and that not everyone who drives the road is German with a German licence

I can't say it in differently - you win

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

I give up, you just don't get the fact that people from all over the world drive the road, and that not everyone who drives the road is German with a German licence

I can't say it in differently - you win

But the vast majority are by far. How is that hard to comprehend?

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by GasoLane

Steer tyre blowouts (at legal speeds) are fine so long as you're holding onto the steering wheel.

Who needs 2 wheels to steer anyway, just use the other one.

[Paull]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

and I pointed out, quite clearly, albeit sarcastically that the road is open to anyone from around the world, with NO German training, in fact the driver of the Bugati is from Czechoslovakia, did he get his licence in Germany? or are you now going to tell me how hard it is get a licence in Czechoslovakia? What about the person who might inadvertently move into that lane being from a country where they drive on the left? Oh, that would never happen would it, or do they need a German licence to drive on the road too?

No need to yell at clouds, facts will beat that all the time, but your small-mindedness thinks its great to throw insults as a way of proving your point, but it just shows your level of intelligence or lack of it - you can't handle rational debate with facts and logic

Good Sir, the countries Czech Republic and Slovakia split 29 years ago, 1 Jan 1993 to be precise. It came about from the Velvet Revolution in 1989.

See more here

Not trying to be smart ar$3, it's just that when I see/hear people using "Czechoslovakia", it doesn't do well for the point that they are either discussing or arguing over.

[Trevor 57]

Semantics.......my point was the driver wasn't German and mostly didn't have a German licence

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

But the vast majority are by far. How is that hard to comprehend?

I don't disagree with with that but the basis of your argument is flawed which you now admit

What is it? 2 people who have posted in here have driven the road with no German licence

[Paull]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

But the vast majority are by far. How is that hard to comprehend?

I don't believe that you can say "The vast majority". Having driven through Germany, Austria and the Czech republic on a number of occasions, all of these main European roads are simply cross country thoroughfares. It is very plain to see, by the licence plates on the cars, what country they are from. I always find it interesting to see how many different nationalities are driving, and not just the trucks.

What I found was that the majority of German cars would simply come on and then shortly thereafter, exit the Autobahns. There were many other nationalities driving the longer distances.

[T3rminator]

Mobility amongst the EU is too easy. When I was working in London, we used to knock off at 5, fly into any part of Europe by 10pm, usually for under 30 quid, spend the weekend there and get back for work on a Monday morning. People did this all the time. Hiring a car doesn't require anything special either, not sure if that was due to the UK licence, when they were part of the EU.

[slowsnake]

Originally Posted by Late braker

I’ve driven the autobahns in a Merc- it’s a different world entirely. At first when I got on an autobahn I thought what’s so great but after about 2 mins the engineering of the road, the etiquette of ALL the other drivers and of course the brilliant car all crystallised to form the holy trinity of driving- the roads, driver training and the cars. The fastest I went was about 190 km/h and I was always sure to check the mirror. If you were a bit long in the fast lane (left lane) you would glimpse the flash from behind as the Audi/BMW/MB/Porsche came up. Most of them were in the 240+ range judging by the speed differential. I’ll remember it as a great eye opener as to just how backward we are here in every way.

You can do that here in Australia, just don't get caught or hit a roo or camel!
My EK Van would hit a 100mph, but took a long time to get there, the NT was unlimited on the Stuart Hwy and if you got caught you just had to prove in court it was safe, ie, no rain, clear vision etc, the Autobahns are just another highway that you use a bit to get where your going then you get off, no big deal really!

[Junkyard-Dog]

The sections of Autobahn which have no restriction on speed are all exceptionally well designed, built and maintained. In other words, the polar opposite of our road networks.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Junkyard-Dog

The sections of Autobahn which have no restriction on speed are all exceptionally well designed, built and maintained. In other words, the polar opposite of our road networks.

Even if we had freeways in immaculate condition the speed would still be 80km/h with a bazillion speed 'safety' cameras on it for 'our safety'.

Like the Tullamarine Freeway, it's 5 lanes wide each way and it's still 80km/h.

There's a dirt road around the corner from where I live with a 100km/h speed limit.