2015 carsales.com.au Car of the Year winners:

[SumoDog68]

Originally Posted by LyleXR8

Family of 2 adults, 2 kids would be considered average, I'd like to see them in this on a family holiday for a week, especially when the kids are teenagers,

Average Australian family is 2.6 people :-). People with children on average have 2 , so you are right . Golf is considered more than big enough in many Europian countries.

[Windsor220]

What family car under 30k would people suggest is better?

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by Polyal

I think its an awesome car but how many people, hand on your heart, would buy one when you have $100k to play with?

You can pencil in the Mustang for next years winner then, that or the Focus RS.

Agreed....not down playng Ford but you can get amg a45, rs3, BMW m135, s3, golf r, wrx...all under 100k.

Must admit I'm a bit of e euro fanboi....but my wallet is not.

[zilo]

It's "car of the year", not family car of the year.

It's not the povvo's car of the year either...

Just ...best car of the year....

Tesla Model S also won it in the United States.

[Brazen]

Tesla are mightily impressive. P90D Model X would be my lotto car.

[Yamonda]

In relation to the Carsales car of the year awards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys4nU8HS1xE

[LeadFoot81]

Originally Posted by Yamonda

In relation to the Carsales car of the year awards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys4nU8HS1xE

I fixate on the performance car for under a hunjy K cos it's hilarious, but the best he could muster was a jibe about a Colette Dinnigan dress to go with the Fiesta...nice try. Jeremy Clarkson, this guy aint.

[mtbkym01]

Originally Posted by Wretched

So no substance behind the comment then.
May be they should have another award for fordforums.com.au members where Falcon wins everything and it is the only competitor.

Where in this thread did anyone say Falcon should've won this or that! For someone who always says their views are not biased on here, you have a crack at Falcon every chance you get. You're biased alright, against Falcon!

[Qwerty321]

Originally Posted by deluxe_

Golf sized cars are the norm in Europe where many use it as a daily family get around car irrespective of the age and size of the kids.

However, it's only in Aus and Us where folks prefer to commute in comfort opting for a large sedans. But I see this trend changing lately with the sales of smaller cars increasing ever more.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Small cars are becoming ever more popular as second, third etc. cars in the family, but from what I've observed almost every single family will have a large/medium sedan, wagon or SUV as their "long distance" main car. Camry or Caprice is purely a factor of comfort, a Camry is more than enough for a long trip with possibly occasional towing. A Corolla on the other hand wouldn't be up for that.

In Europe there's probably less demand for large/medium cars simply cause everything is so small. A long drive would have you crossing a border or two, so there isn't a very big market for it.

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by mtbkym01

Where in this thread did anyone say Falcon should've won this or that! For someone who always says their views are not biased on here, you have a crack at Falcon every chance you get. You're biased alright, against Falcon!

Read between the posts it is pretty clear.
I am not against Falcon at all, but I don't hold it in high regard like people here do. I don't hold onto a bygone era, Falcon is just another product and that's how I judge it, nothing more.
I am Ford man, not a Falcon man.

[mik]

Originally Posted by zilo

say it a bit louder?

Car of the year...


Tesla Model S.

yes that has about as much credibility as the golf.

[40RDT]

Originally Posted by DJM83

There it is, was waiting for it.

You honestly think that the best performance car available with a budget of 100k is a ford fiesta? There are many other cars that offer much better performance for under 100k...

[Express]

Originally Posted by tempted

They have lost the plot alright.

They give the main award to a car that probably only 1% of the population can actually afford, ..........

These awards really don't deserve any oxygen.

I’m getting in early and voting it ‘Bang For Buck’.

[mik]

Originally Posted by zilo

It's "car of the year", not family car of the year.

It's not the povvo's car of the year either...

Just ...best car of the year....

Tesla Model S also won it in the United States.

how does it go for reliability ?

[Express]

Originally Posted by mik

how does it go for reliability ?

and dealer network.

[new2ford]

Originally Posted by mik

how does it go for reliability ?

There's not too much to go wrong in the drivetrain of an electric vehicle and servicing is vastly simpler. Any theoretical issues would be some of the stupid things that Ford owners would be familiar with like door lock actuators, ball joints etc!

Originally Posted by Qwerty321

In Europe there's probably less demand for large/medium cars simply cause everything is so small. A long drive would have you crossing a border or two, so there isn't a very big market for it.

A lot of myths about Europe. It's a big and wealthy continent and there are plenty of large/medium cars including big SUVs.

I find it funny that the interior space of the Golf, which they've chosen as the family car, it not that much bigger than the Fabia which they've chosen as the entry car. I still think for a family with lump-sized teenagers you need something a bit bigger. With little kids maybe the Golf is OK. It's the amount of luggage space that's actually the crunch.

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by 40RDT

You honestly think that the best performance car available with a budget of 100k is a ford fiesta? There are many other cars that offer much better performance for under 100k...

You'll end up with a price on your head if you say things like that around Euro Ford enthusiasts.

[superyob]

Originally Posted by Wretched

Read between the posts it is pretty clear.
I am not against Falcon at all, but I don't hold it in high regard like people here do. I don't hold onto a bygone era, Falcon is just another product and that's how I judge it, nothing more.
I am Ford man, not a Falcon man.

If Falcon is 'just another product', surely then Ford is 'just another product'. Nothing to get excited about then as all cars are just 'products'?

I am a Fairlane aficionado myself but surely it is Falcon that stirred the loins of 99% of Ford fans in OZ including myself? That 'bygone era' is still fresh in the minds of most who's formative years coincided with a time when Falcon was King. Not all of us can easily dismiss hugely exciting times just because they are gone...

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by 4ORDT

You honestly think that the best performance car available with a budget of 100k is a ford fiesta? There are many other cars that offer much better performance for under 100k.

Never said that, but thing i will agree on is $100k is too much, if it was under say $40/50k it would make more sense. In $100k there is such a broad range of cars

Originally Posted by Adrenaline

You'll end up with a price on your head if you say things like that around Euro Ford enthusiasts.

really? Happens a lot more in reverse when something bad is said about falcon and you know it. Myself i couldnt really care, well did in the past not any more

[mcflux]

Originally Posted by Brazen

Tesla are mightily impressive. P90D Model X would be my lotto car.

My wife & I are seriously interested in the model 3 coming out in 2017(?). Provided there's:

* A decent electric recharge network by then (the only two in Gippsland, VIC are Bairnsdale & Leongatha! If one opened up in Sale we'd be laughing)
* Charge times can be reduced, and
* The RRP doesn't blow out.

[LeadFoot81]

Originally Posted by 40RDT

You honestly think that the best performance car available with a budget of 100k is a ford fiesta? There are many other cars that offer much better performance for under 100k...

How do you define a performance car? Is it just straight line speed? Overall power? Handling?

What else is important in a performance car? Looks? Mod cons? Running costs? Convenience/suitability for your lifestyle?

The judges would've scored each performance car (in the up to 100K bracket) in each category, tallied up the totals, then discussed the 'X factor' of the highest scorers and decided on a winner.

They may have found the ST just had 'it', the vibe, the mabo.

Or, they may have found that the ratio of X factor versus cost of purchase (30K) [and running costs] in the little upstart ST was better than those of the cars pushing 100K (in which case a BFYB performance crown would've been more appropriate)

[Seasoned One]

who cares, I love my g6et

[Qwerty321]

Originally Posted by mik

how does it go for reliability ?

It's basically a large RC Car. And if childhood me struggled to break those, I doubt you'd manage to break a Tesla.

Tesla should not have won that though. The Tesla is a novelty car, its very expensive and highly impractical. If Tesla gave their cars generators that run on petrol that you could use on long trips then yes the car is amazing, but in its current electric only state its nothing more the musks little pet project.

[mcflux]

Originally Posted by tempted

The Fiesta ST is realistically nothing more than a hotted up young girls car. I don't think there would be a man on earth who if given $100k to buy a performance car, would choose a Fiesta. Unless of course they bat for the other team.
Cue all the politically correct do-gooders.

As a forum troll, you're quite the master-baiter.

Small pocket rockets can be fun to fang around in. Although I'm not sure whether the Fiesta would be worthy of winning a category that stretches all the way to $100k, as many others have already said.

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by kaniSS

What a load of BS. These idiots don't know what they are on about.

I wouldn't completely write them off - Holden got no awards.

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by DJM83

really? Happens a lot more in reverse when something bad is said about falcon and you know it. Myself i couldnt really care, well did in the past not any more

Oh I think both sides are crazy. If you manage to appreciate both for what they are, I'm your biggest fan.

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by Adrenaline

Oh I think both sides are crazy. If you manage to appreciate both for what they are, I'm your biggest fan.

Ive started to if im honest prefer Euros but can appreciate both, if i was closer to owning my ST id probably have a new falcon on order but alas im not.

[mik]

Originally Posted by Qwerty321

It's basically a large RC Car. And if childhood me struggled to break those, I doubt you'd manage to break a Tesla.

Tesla should not have won that though. The Tesla is a novelty car, its very expensive and highly impractical. If Tesla gave their cars generators that run on petrol that you could use on long trips then yes the car is amazing, but in its current electric only state its nothing more the musks little pet project.

i think a lot of people think that ,but in fact i believe its quite the opposite.

[Windsor220]

I think its very easy to see who is stuck back in the 70s with threads like these.

[superyob]

Originally Posted by Windsor220

I think its very easy to see who is stuck back in the 70s with threads like these.

Guilty as charged!!!