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Old 17-08-2007, 09:38 PM   #31
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okay bank has said yes so i will be buying then i will tell and show all plus reveal more info about anther one late tomorrow xa/xb
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Old 17-08-2007, 09:41 PM   #32
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things to check for rebody is holes in the underside of parcel shelf all the way along. only in gt's not in falcon's etc.
all checks out with dan at grand tourer he says grab it
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Old 17-08-2007, 09:42 PM   #33
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Then its a car to keep. At that money your not over exposed if the GT market has a correction and you will always be in profit if you decide to sell.
You cant loose!
Bathurst stats play some part in that. The Clevo has the runs on the board.
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Old 17-08-2007, 09:44 PM   #34
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.......I wouldn't hesitate at that. Manual, auto, red yellow green or what ever. AND I am not just talking about buying it as investment .... I couldnt give a stuff about that. Buy it and drive the hell out of it. It may be the only GT from that era that gets driven these days! XW way over the XY for looks too!



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Old 17-08-2007, 09:45 PM   #35
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Bathurst stats play some part in that. The Clevo has the runs on the board.
from what ive read the windsor wasnt given much of a chance the tyres is what lost it for them back then
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Old 17-08-2007, 09:47 PM   #36
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from what ive read the windsor wasnt given much of a chance the tyres is what lost it for them back then
No point having good running shoes when you have bad asthma. :
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Old 17-08-2007, 09:51 PM   #37
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and I've never understood that...much prefer the Wheezer over the boat anchor....;-)
I think you're confused, the wheezor IS the boat anchor!!
Bathust victories were strictly the domain of the Cleveland, hence the premium paid for Cleveland GT's!



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Old 17-08-2007, 09:52 PM   #38
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Yep for sure, tyre choice cost Ford victory. I wouldnt worry too much, theres plenty of tuff windsors out there.
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Old 17-08-2007, 09:53 PM   #39
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.......I wouldn't hesitate at that. Manual, auto, red yellow green or what ever. AND I am not just talking about buying it as investment .... I couldnt give a stuff about that. Buy it and drive the hell out of it. It may be the only GT from that era that gets driven these days! XW way over the XY for looks too!
go to a gt club day and u will see loads of gt's gettin the *** driven out of them. do agree on looks of xw ova xy!
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Old 17-08-2007, 09:54 PM   #40
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History is a tough subject. no one remembers who ran second. lol...

(Except maybe when the clevo coupes ran 1st and 2nd)
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Old 17-08-2007, 09:55 PM   #41
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Yep for sure, tyre choice cost Ford victory. I wouldnt worry too much, theres plenty of tuff windsors out there.
i tend to agree plus both will kick *** if u tickle them right
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Old 17-08-2007, 10:01 PM   #42
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here is a fine example of the price of xw's

http://www.australianmusclecarsales....cle_view/96382
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Old 17-08-2007, 10:02 PM   #43
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from what you describe, great colour ,manual, no rust and tidy black trim
I would think 70k would be a good buy.
It could be worth up to 100K but the fact its a windsor drops its value a
little IMO.
6-8 grand and that wheezor will put out more power and be just as reliable as any mildly modified clevo.
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Old 17-08-2007, 10:02 PM   #44
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i tend to agree plus both will kick *** if u tickle them right
Not the factory 351 W unfortunatly, those heads will forever be its short coming, the clevo GT's will allways attact more $$$ its just the way it was and the way it allways will be because of the racing success of the clevo..

Modifying them means little too, mod for mod, $ for $ the big port clevo will win every time. At the end of the day people pay the big $ for history, not mod potential.



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Old 17-08-2007, 10:02 PM   #45
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Good find mate, is it owned by a close friend of yours?

I'm a bit baffled by the price, If it's a good as you say it should be worth around the 100K mark as has been said.
It would seem as though these rarities either go for a steal when being sold by someone who has no idea of their worth or full market value as dictated by current prices.
This falls smack in the middle which doesn't make sense to me.
The owner seems to know it's worth big dollars by the raised value he puts on it but isn't going to sell it for what it's really worth which can be established with a simple call to AMCS.

I'm happy to stand corrected if i'm way off but if it's a genuine GT it's gotta be worth more than a restored replica XY regardless of engine
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Old 17-08-2007, 10:10 PM   #46
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Not the factory 351 W unfortunatly, those heads will forever be its short coming, the clevo GT's will allways attact more $$$ its just the way it was and the way it allways will be because of the racing success of the clevo..

Modifying them means little too, mod for mod, $ for $ the big port clevo will win every time. At the end of the day people pay the big $ for history, not mod potential.
to be honest ive personly only had clevos so i carnt really coment much
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Old 17-08-2007, 10:10 PM   #47
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Not the factory 351 W unfortunatly, those heads will forever be its short coming, the clevo GT's will allways attact more $$$ its just the way it was and the way it allways will be because of the racing success of the clevo..

Modifying them means little too, mod for mod, $ for $ the big port clevo will win every time. At the end of the day people pay the big $ for history, not mod potential.
Could always put the clevo heads on there :nutsycuck
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Old 17-08-2007, 10:12 PM   #48
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I think you're confused, the wheezor IS the boat anchor!!
Bathust victories were strictly the domain of the Cleveland, hence the premium paid for Cleveland GT's!
So the 1967 Bathurst win doesn't count??
haha.. firing up the anchor brigade is too easy - it's funny, even my mate with his XA GT calls clevo's anchors...just taking the p1ss of course... clevo's are ok, but I'll always prefer a 351W in an XW GT
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Old 17-08-2007, 10:13 PM   #49
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Could always put the clevo heads on there :nutsycuck
turn it into a boss hmm thats a thought anyway thats down the track anyway going to bed back here tomorrow with more details
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LOL, love the fighting passion of the wheezor brigade! its hard to be humble though when the clevo has a 6 to 1 Bathurst win record against the wheezor! :



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Thats how I remember Windsors. They ran out of puff around 5000 - 5500 rpm. Alloy heads have given them the legs they needed. Before that in Boss form they went well.
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Thats how I remember Windsors. They ran out of puff around 5000 - 5500 rpm. Alloy heads have given them the legs they needed. Before that in Boss form they went well.
True, the wheezor was reliable though... well atleast the 289/302 was, you couldnt blow up a wheezor because they couldnt breath well enough to spin hard enough to blow up in the first place!



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Old 17-08-2007, 10:26 PM   #54
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windsor / cleveland ,

who really cares. If you want a fast car for this sort of coin i could think of some great cars to buy. and they would stop and handle a ship load better.
For me its not about how fast it is. I love to get into My GT and cruise with the sound of the clevo drowning out the sound of the kids fighting in the back .lol
but really for sound I would have to say the best sounding car i have is my windsor powered sierra. makes some heads turn for sure!
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LOL, love the fighting passion of the wheezor brigade! its hard to be humble though when the clevo has a 6 to 1 Bathurst win record against the wheezor! :

Hmmmm...using this theory i calculate that Holdens 304/8 is the king then :
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Maybe but we all know Holdens suck, so they dont count.
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True, the wheezor was reliable though... well atleast the 289/302 was, you couldnt blow up a wheezor because they couldnt breath well enough to spin hard enough to blow up in the first place!
hehe...I suppose once you sort out the oil pressure problems and fix up those Intake ports with alloy tongues then the anchors do make a good towcar motor when you want to tow your racecar to the track....
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Wasn't there a 6cyl that beat the Clevo once......72
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Even Ali and Tszyu had losses, but like the clevo they are still miles ahead of their competitors.
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Hmmmm...using this theory i calculate that Holdens 304/8 is the king then :
Maybe under Group C/A after Ford removed all factory support of motorsport.. and Holden increased theirs..
As a production race engine under the production car rules that the HO's competed in the 308 didnt win anything.
Holden did a good job of supporting their teams with this engine under group C then Group A, its a pity Ford never did...



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