Mondeo Wagon Why Not Here ????? - Page 2

Zippy7 · 10-07-2008, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryanmk1

new zealand gets everything

they also get really cheap imported second hand jap cars...

When I was working in Wellington for 3 months, it seemed that almost every second person was driving a subaru with a bonnet scoop, and went whoosh with the turbo when racing out of the lights!!

apstar · 11-07-2008, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryanmk1

new zealand gets everything dammit they got the mk3 st220 , sooo close yet sooo farr.

But they don't get a diesel!!

apstar

MAGPIE · 11-07-2008, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by apstar

But they don't get a diesel!!

apstar

Yes we do !

Martyvan · 11-07-2008, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MAGPIE

Yes we do !

Yes, and at a converted ~AU$33990 for a diesel wagon... holy smoke, thats good value.....!!!

Is it easier to ship a car from NZ than it is to ship one from elsewhere on the planet? a) given its RHD, and b) would they run similar regulations to us?

I also noticed that the G6ET is only NZ$5000 more expensive than a G6E !!! which is about AU$3700 compared to the AU$8000...

Pricing is strange, but good in NZ... :evil3:

Zippy7 · 15-07-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Martyvan

Is it easier to ship a car from NZ than it is to ship one from elsewhere on the planet?

I daresay that importing a car from anywhere is difficult/painful/annoying at the best of times when you have actually owned it for the preceeding 12 months.
I'm not sure of the story when you try to bring a new one in... I'm sure they would make it as hard as possible! Plus, you'd probably get zero warranty on it here.

TheColonel · 16-07-2008, 03:22 PM

That was before people knew there would be no falcon wagon

apstar · 16-07-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheColonel

That was before people knew there would be no falcon wagon

Fair enough,Ford knew though

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TheColonel · 16-07-2008, 05:41 PM

Yeah they did, but they might have been smart enough to say nothing so they could clear out the BF wagon stock... who knows... if the Mondeo wagon was around when i got mine car, i think i would have got the wagon

Zippy7 · 16-07-2008, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheColonel

if the Mondeo wagon was around when i got mine car, i think i would have got the wagon

I would've considered a wagon too...

...if they had an XR5 version

Lord Viykor · 16-07-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Zippy7

I would've considered a wagon too...

...if they had an XR5 version

An XR5 wagon would have been sweet.

Bossxr8 · 16-07-2008, 08:17 PM

I saw what I believe was the MMS show car wagon a few weeks ago outside Product Engineering, black, real dark windows and a big yellow Left Hand Drive Evaluation Vehicle sticker on the back, so it seems to me its still being evaluated.

It had to be the show car.

csv8 · 16-07-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Viykor

An XR5 wagon would have been sweet.

They do !!!!

cardinalred · 17-07-2008, 10:41 AM

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The wagon failed to attract attention at the Melbourne car show had it,it would have been coming here

Surely Ford have tested the market more extensively than just interest at the Melbourne Motor Show. Were this the definitive test, the whole country would be driving Ferraris

Motor shows are probably the worst testing possible. Typically the demographic attending are young and very unlikely to be in the market to buy a new car. The poor demographic attending motor shows is one of the prime reasons so many importers (Benz, Porsche, etc) no longer bother getting a stand as they get better bang for their buck from targetted events such as invitation only drive days etc.

There is definitely a martket for the Mondeo wagon. Look at the success of the Mazda 6 wagon as an example. Ford should import this wagon and offer it in a range of equipment levels. Fleets will be interested in the TDCi but user-choosers are more likely to be looking for a "Ghia" spec diesel or a petrol powered sports variant.

csv8 · 16-07-2008, 08:47 PM

This is from the FORD UK site, BUT that wagon will never come here..220ps !!!!
Your vehicle

* Ford Mondeo
* Estate
* Titanium
* 2.5 Duratec 220ps
* Durashift 6-Speed Manual

Base price

£22,895.00
Selected options

* Thunder Metallic £375.00
* New York Cloth in Infinity Blue

Total price

£23,270.00 iThe estimated 'On the Road' retail price for all car models excluding Ford Ranger* includes items such as delivery to dealer, Vehicle Excise Duty, Vehicle First Registration Fee, cost of Number Plates (estimated) and VAT (at 17.5%)

Lord Viykor · 17-07-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

This is from the FORD UK site, BUT that wagon will never come here..220ps !!!!

The 220ps (PferdeStarke, which is German for HorsePower) is the same as power quoted for the XR5T over here. Taken from the flywheel though if I recall correctly.

Would be a good combination 2.5T with a six speed manual in a wagon.

BammasAUIIIXR8 · 18-07-2008, 05:40 PM

Well I've got my Mazda 6 brochures and they have just dropped in price by over $2k - so it looks like I'm off to Mazda to get a mid sized wagon !!!

Peter R.

Zippy7 · 18-07-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BammasAUIIIXR8

so it looks like I'm off to Mazda to get a mid sized wagon !!!

The price drop only justifies my gut feel last month when I was shopping around.

I genuinely hope you enjoy your Mazda - Even as a previous owner of a Mazda, I just couldn't bring myself to buy the new Mazda6.

BammasAUIIIXR8 · 25-07-2008, 02:31 PM

For those interested this is part of an article on CarsGuide referring to the new Fiesta & Kuga which references the Mondeo wagon:

'Two of the best and brightest Fords from Europe are being readied for sales in Australia. The great-looking, new Fiesta and the compact Kuga four-wheel drive are set for Down Under deliveries, with only the timing, price and equipment still to be set. Both should be in showrooms in the first quarter of 2009.

They will —Join the Mondeo station wagon, which is already confirmed but running late, and probably the S-Max people mover. Ford Australia, however, isn't revealing details under a policy that prevents commenting on future products and despite the importance of the company's quality compact imports.

Even the Mondeo wagon, which was previewed at the Melbourne motor show at the start of the year, is still subject to speculation.

“Yes, the car is coming,” says spokesman Mark Winslow.

“We will announce the details when we are ready.” '

Sounds like he is sick of being asked "when". I would think that this would mean there is significant interest in the car ???

Zippy7 · 25-07-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BammasAUIIIXR8

“Yes, the car is coming,” says spokesman Mark Winslow.
“We will announce the details when we are ready.” '
Sounds like he is sick of being asked "when". I would think that this would mean there is significant interest in the car ???

I think one of the first questions after they state when the car is coming would be "Tell 'em the price son!"

Martyvan · 25-07-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BammasAUIIIXR8

They will —Join the Mondeo station wagon, which is already confirmed but running late, and probably the S-Max people mover.

Even the Mondeo wagon, which was previewed at the Melbourne motor show at the start of the year, is still subject to speculation.

“Yes, the car is coming,” says spokesman Mark Winslow.

“We will announce the details when we are ready.” '

Sounds like he is sick of being asked "when". I would think that this would mean there is significant interest in the car ???

2009 stellar year for Euro sourced imports.......

Bring that on!

PedroinTas · 25-08-2008, 07:39 PM

This ad appears in the current issue of New Scientist (Australia & New Zealand version), all of the other adds in the mag are for Australia. Notice that the name is listed as Titanium X (UK branding?) and that it's a 2.2 litre.

There's absolutely no other detail in the ad apart from the logo and fuel consumption figures. They're supposed to be releasing it in October but no word from ford

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What's everyone think?

Martyvan · 25-08-2008, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PedroinTas

This ad appears in the current issue of New Scientist (Australia & New Zealand version), all of the other adds in the mag are for Australia. Notice that the name is listed as Titanium X (UK branding?) and that it's a 2.2 litre.

There's absolutely no other detail in the ad apart from the logo and fuel consumption figures. They're supposed to be releasing it in October but no word from ford

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What's everyone think?

Would buy one in a flash. In fact, I know in absolute terms that i would order one in January if it was made available here in that spec, regardless of name.

bathurst77 · 26-08-2008, 09:22 AM

MMMM.. Ford CAN build hot looking station wagons.

BammasAUIIIXR8 · 26-08-2008, 02:29 PM

I'm about to order a Subaru Outback because I couldn't wait any longer.

Surely there would be some press if it was to be released in October !!!

Zippy7 · 26-08-2008, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BammasAUIIIXR8

I'm about to order a Subaru Outback because I couldn't wait any longer.

I presume you are aware that there's an all-new model out next year for the Liberty/Outback range.

cardinalred · 27-08-2008, 04:00 PM

Hopefully Ford are agressive in the wagon model they offer. It will be disappointing if all they offer is a TDCi level. With Holden now having the Sportswagon I believe an upspec Titanium level wagon would offer substantial competition particularly amongst user-choosers who are attracted to the fuel economy of the diesel but in a unspec vehicle.

BammasAUIIIXR8 · 30-08-2008, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Zippy7

I presume you are aware that there's an all-new model out next year for the Liberty/Outback range.

I guess that's why it's called a Runout sale !!!

If anyone else can find a mid-sized wagon with Leather, electric front seats, tow bar, auto, alarm, reverse sensors, mats, rear tray, tint, fabric protection + other extras for $37,500 (excl GST) then please let me know.

With a 57% residual after 3 years and no significant fall off with model differentiation, I think buying an Outback runout is a safe bet.

csv8 · 02-09-2008, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BammasAUIIIXR8

I guess that's why it's called a Runout sale !!!

If anyone else can find a mid-sized wagon with Leather, electric front seats, tow bar, auto, alarm, reverse sensors, mats, rear tray, tint, fabric protection + other extras for $37,500 (excl GST) then please let me know.

With a 57% residual after 3 years and no significant fall off with model differentiation, I think buying an Outback runout is a safe bet.

Check Subaru servicing and spare parts costs before buying. I sold my Subaru as their prices are at BMW prices.

PedroinTas · 26-08-2008, 07:50 PM

I did send an enquiry to Ford by email asking if the ad was correct and if there was a date of release, but given the turmoil that seems to be going on there at the moment, I'm not holding my breath... Will advise when/if I hear

PedroinTas · 27-08-2008, 05:51 PM

Ford's reply

"Thank you for your e-mail to Ford Motor Company of Australia Limited (Ford Australia).

Ford Australia does not import the Mondeo wagon and at this stage we have no confirmed plans to introduce this vehicle into our current model range.

Should you wish to import one of these vehicles into Australia you would need to do so privately.

We trust that this helps you, and thank you for taking the time to contact Ford Australia"

I've emailed a reply asking why they're advertising it in an Australian Magazine and that the major car websites still have it slated for an October release. We might get more sense in their answer, we might not.