Why do people keep buying VE commodores?

[BHDOGS]

I dragged a ve 6 auto when they first came Out and beat it with my stock auto ef xr6 a pointless post but it always made me lol

[Tysonv48]

Simple the VE is an aggressive looking car
And as for the ss/ssv Aussie's will always love a big v8

[flooded one]

Originally Posted by Tysonv48

Simple the VE is an aggressive looking car
And as for the ss/ssv Aussie's will always love a big v8

not really when you consider that the top two australian selling vehicles dont have a V8 option. if that be the case every commodore you see would be a V8. most commodores you see are V6s.

most of commodore sales are fleets anyway. fleets have long abandoned the falcon. you just have too look up holden fleet discount too see why.

[XD ESP! XELR8]

Funny about the blue tooth, my g6et has a mind of its own..

Can tell you tho, I no a few mates that were die hard HSV boys..

Guess what there driving now..

Ford and fpv Turbos..

[svo supporter]

Maybe because the commodore boys don't complain at the after sales service they receive with their cars....

That does play a part in buying a new car.

[flooded one]

Originally Posted by XD ESP! XELR8

Funny about the blue tooth, my g6et has a mind of its own..

Can tell you tho, I no a few mates that were die hard HSV boys..

Guess what there driving now..

Ford and fpv Turbos..

falcon is the better performance car!!! good that they seen the light!!!

[flooded one]

Originally Posted by svo supporter

Maybe because the commodore boys don't complain at the after sales service they receive with their cars....

That does play a part in buying a new car.

I'll agree with that. the way a certain ford dealership treated my parents years ago with there BA makes me never want too buy a ford from that dealership!! I'll drive out of town too get one!!!

[FGX-351]

Beta was better than VHS.

HD DVD was better than Bluray.

Perception is reality.

[XD ESP! XELR8]

Originally Posted by wildrider

falcon is the better performance car!!! good that they seen the light!!!

Spot on mate..

But sometimes a want to say get back in ya hsv and let us have it over you, like the ls1s had stock over the pre 04 ford v8s..

I always get up them both, tell em there turn coats lol

One of them sold he's after a weekend out in both cars, I'm sure I have done my part for ford..

[GTENVY]

Originally Posted by ivorya

Ford and Falcon I6 have a reputation of being extremely thirsty. My Boss and collegue hired a FG XR6 recently, major holden supporters. They came back and raved at how little fuel was used, how it felt so much better than the VE they had hired the wk previous.

And I bet they still wouldnt buy one.

[Windsor220]

Originally Posted by svo supporter

Maybe because the commodore boys don't complain at the after sales service they receive with their cars....

That does play a part in buying a new car.

They do actually. Go on LS1 forum. Holden was one of the worst in the dealer ratings a year ago.

[Fiesta_Man69]

Marketing, advertising, numerous stories about the Falcons imminent demise in the media and the fact that many Aussies only see the Falcon as a taxi, and today in 2012 the name has no aspirational value to gen x, despite it being a brilliant car.

We all know it's great, but active members on this forum represent less than 0.01% of the Aussie car buying public...

[Dash_XR]

I think the taxi thing would play a bigger part then you think.

[aussie muscle]

Originally Posted by robbyj

People who are holden buy generally buy holden.

my nephew is a Holden guy (even wears the merchandise). he bought an captiva for his wife, and admitted it's been in twice to fix recall items and had lots of problems with it, but was still going to replace it with another holden.

[desGT]

Originally Posted by compact 351

wow we have a ve sv6 commodore and we have a gtp,the reason we went to commodore is cause we didnt like the au,after owning a ford and a commodore i wouldnt put **** on either as they both have some problems,as for the ve being slow i dont think so

Agreed! Same reason, I still have my VX (S, Supercharged) with almost 280k on it and still going strong. I still like the car.

I have had mainly Fords, and am on my 2nd GT. BUT, going to move to a VF HSV Tourer not only because I want the extra space, but FPV royalled me when they brought out the 335 less than a year after the FG - same model, etc. Real bad planning and loss of a customer!

[compact 351]

Wow i must be a lucky sv6 owner cause a tank of fuel gets me from melb to sydney,about faults lets not go there cause all our fords had problems aswell,we have one of each and are more than happy with both sv6 and gtp,also have a fleet of ve commodores at work and havent had a major problem

[FGII-XR6]

because prople are of the mistaken belife that a commodore is the most Australian product but Australian content in Commodores had been dwindling over the years. the falcon actually have more Australian content but many are easily fooled

[robbyj]

bathurst?

[Gobes32]

Originally Posted by BHDOGS

I dragged a ve 6 auto when they first came Out and beat it with my stock auto ef xr6 a pointless post but it always made me lol

Really? Having owned 2 auto el's and driven a VE SV6, I can assure you E series are gutless slugs compared to modern vehicles. The 6 speed auto's in Holden and Fords today are worlds apart from the agricultural 4 speed in our EF/EL Falcons..........

[XR_Strider_GuY]

Have driven many 6.0L Calais and SSV's. For me the answer is simple, for around $35-40k you get something that looks nice, drives nice and plenty of easy, simple V8 grunt and a lovely sound from that stock exhaust. Some things on the VE are not to my taste, the hand brake and some of the interior fixtures.

I love my XR8 make no mistake and in many ways it still holds a candle to the VE SS but Ford do not offer this sort of package for the price I mentioned. Yes the XR6 Turbo is Fords answer, but for me its the wrong flavor.

[blueoval]

Jesting aside, the whole knuckle dragging, pathetic, no reason excuse of 'because it's a Ford' is getting bloody old. I've been hearing it for eons. Sick to death of hearing this stupid lame *** reasoning backed with no factual evidence, unbiased reasoning or intelligent responses WHY.

Pro Holden enthusiasts need to come up with new, intelligent answers rather than this broken record drivel. Or is that too much to ask???



PS. I have driven both back to back. Both have pro's and con's. But it depends on what aspects you want to focus on. I find both do their job well but some aspects shine brighter than others when you place them back to back. In saying that, I'd still pick the Ford over the Holden, no, not because I have owned plenty of them in the past, but because I expect a certain level of refinement which I found the Holden lacked. Im by no means a fan boy either.

[grandpa_spec_F6]

I drove an SV6 for work, it was horrible.

Gearbox was like the panties of an indecisive lady of the night, up, no down, actually back up again, no no that was too far lets go down two steps this time, now let's hold them here for an extended period of time for no reason.

[Mr Hardware]

Originally Posted by gsF6

lets go down two steps this time, now let's hold them here for an extended period of time

just what you like isn't it gsf6?

[dimka100]

Are you going to ask the same question when the VF comes out?

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by desGT

Agreed! Same reason, I still have my VX (S, Supercharged) with almost 280k on it and still going strong. I still like the car.

I have had mainly Fords, and am on my 2nd GT. BUT, going to move to a VF HSV Tourer not only because I want the extra space, but FPV royalled me when they brought out the 335 less than a year after the FG - same model, etc. Real bad planning and loss of a customer!

Thats not true... FG 315 GT came out April 2008, FG 335 GT came out October 2010...

So the FG GT 315 had 2.5 years on the road before they brought the new one out.

Look at what HSV did, brought the VEI Tourer out then replaced it about 5 months later with the VEII...

[flooded one]

Originally Posted by grandpa_spec_F6

I drove an SV6 for work, it was horrible.

Gearbox was like the panties of an indecisive lady of the night, up, no down, actually back up again, no no that was too far lets go down two steps this time, now let's hold them here for an extended period of time for no reason.

I havent seen too many commodore boxes that dont hunt. I think this is a big let down too the car itself. can be rather annoying at times

[JG34JA]

OK, I think they sell as they have a great SS package. AND they offer more body styles! NA pushrod V8 with plenty of power and character. Often too, it's a sharp deal money wise. To some extent after almost 30 years, the V8 ( especially manual) option is alive and well and plenty of people love it. Driven SS manual, and SS auto wagon with cylinder shutoff and both were great products, with that raw power that brings a smile again and again as a muscle car does. It's the halo of the range.

HSV take this formula and continue and enhance it, and have done for ages. Driven HSV GTS with pretty much every option including the launch control on the manual and it was exhilarating, raw and mostly FUN. The cars have been this way for a long time and have great loyalty.

My own cars are Fords, one a pushrod Windsor V8, and I love it for the same reason. Disclaimer, I think the Miami one-ups all these, but where is it in a Ford badged and affordable 'bang for your buck' product that has been available and is a known quality for 30 years? And where is the wagon?

[Falcman0o7]

Because it's cool! It's a holden! What else?....Um...it's a holden!

[Chopped]

Holden need to look at the Aurion V6 for refinement. I did a couple of days in Rocky and Gladstone for business last week and had an Aurion hire car. The handling was pretty average but that motor gets up and goes well for a "family" V6. Very smooth and responsive. It's a shame it doesn't power the back wheels.

[kaniSS]

Originally Posted by Silver Ghia

People are like sheep sometimes.

Sometimes???

I asked 2 mates why they own a VE (SS & SV6 Sportswagon) They both said they liked the design.