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Surely it must get to a point where if they continue to drop out of different markets it will pass so much potential sales to Holden that the Falcon is no longer viable. Very weak. |
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Not making money on it? WTF. What do they actually do up and above the XR8 ute.
Lets see; Engine from GT, interior from GT/GTP, front stickers are not pricey. So they make a unique exhaust and badging...hmm I would be massively surprised if FPV drop a V8 ute variant altogether, but its Ford/FPV so who knows. The maloo might be a tupperware car but it has cred and presence the pursuit has never had. Its basically an occa monaro and its serving them pretty well.
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HSV can sell cars FPV would NEVER be able to move purely because of the badge. We might be outnumbered by the flanny bogans but atleast we have taste and class.. ![]()
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if the coyote is as easy to get a power boost as the xr6t,f6, ie, pulley change and tune , we may well see the ute v8 sales wipe the floor with the myloo, thats my prediction
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A SC V8 may just turn the tables.
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The GT/GT-P/GT-E are all the same car with different seats and badges. They are not an XR8 nor a G6E with minor changes. The pursuit is a unique combination of engine and chassis and to recover the costs I suspect it would have to sell a lot more than it recently has. |
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I'm tipping it won't need a pulley change to do it. |
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If they didn't ruin the tub of the fg utes id say they would sell more as the maloo (pre riceish model) has a sexy looking tub and rear end. Only thing that saves the falcon ute for me is the ability to throw out the tub and whack a tray on
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The Destroyer
Join Date: Jun 2007
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I'd already be in a pursuit if I wasn't waiting for coyote. If they drop the pursuit I doubt I'll end up with a 4 door fpv.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Ford U.S.A invested heavily when things were looking bad and i must admit have trurned out a few vechicle that me personally would love to get my mits on . There f150's there mustangs even that awd taurus did not seem to bad as a family rig . But ford Aus has got struggling v8 sales so the start to think about dropping it again . Nevermind the fact the v8 in general were selling better then ever for hsv . But they seemed to look over the fact it was and is the worst performing performance car in it class . Now the ute is in the same boat , Well it not ugly but its lacking somthing there nothing inspiring about it the motor is virtually the same as we have had for the last 7 years . Yeah its got more grunt but it weighs more so there is no real noticable difference. the interior is nice but will cost you about 30k to trade up just for that. They have a oppourtunity now with the new motor , some new somthing inspiring . This is what we have all been waiting for and now they reackon there is no case for it > Fools |
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ford should just stick to making turbo sixes and leave holden to the v8's. i have only seen 2 fpv utes from memory very ugly in my opinion. theres just something about fpv it has no street credibility. you see a xr6t ute or any kind of ford and you dont even look twice but you see a maloo and its like woohoo a hsv. yes im a holden fan but im not one eyed i own a f6 sedan
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GT sedans and F6s have presence. |
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The front half of the pursuit is all GT so cooling etc in theory is all the same, from the cat back its different but as far as development costs go it would be pretty small; surely not enough to look at killing it altogether. Its an easy model for FPV to shift a few more numbers, and I dont usually like a model existing without effort being put in but in this case its a no brainer. Enough people around for a ute with a bit more pep and prestige than the base XR8.
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Barra Turbo > V8
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Am I the only one that can see the contradiction in the rumours?
Rumour one is that Ford will drop the V8 and leave this as FPV only, good bye XR8 as we know it. Rumour two is FPV will drop all utes leaving the V8 ute to the XR8. But the XR8 does not exist according to rumour one, so does that mean no V8 utes?
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i wonder if they would make for a decent options list instead of a full fpv?
ie option up the fpv motor/wheels/ brakes etc etc? |
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But then they would have to do all the ADR testing required when there are different engines, brakes, suspension etc. They might as well just make the FPV.
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All of the V8s Ford Australia used after the Cleveland have all sucked *** anyways, the 302 Wheezer (exception to 5.6L in T series), which had its *** handed to it by its XR6 cousin in the EL, then the Boss, a modern smooth quad cam V8, I reckon those only suit luxury cars, need something old school with huge displacement, low revving, nice sounding, unrefined and pushrods if you go an 8 in something like a "sports" model Falcon. If I wanted quadcam V8, I'd have bought something with a 1UZFE Toyota V8, big potential for high power right there.
Thats my idea of a good V8 but for me its function over form and thats where the I6T comes in, my judgement can change but "Coyote" better be the bees knees. This is just my opinion, don't take this as fact. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 22-02-2010 at 10:03 PM. |
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Barra Turbo > V8
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All of the Ford V8's were right for the time they were released IMO. Old school tech? Its 2010 not 1990 alot more factors have come into the sums when buying a modern day V8 and dare i say it fuel economy is one of them, so much of your 'old school' is old tech and will never happen
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Why the hell would you buy a V8 if you cared about fuel economy? |
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Barra Turbo > V8
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I did say DARE I SAY FUEL ECONOMY. There are some people out there that care about how much fuel their new V8 will use (no i dont care how much my old 'Wheezer' uses). So i agree there
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You dig, we stick!
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Both rumours can be true. In the end I think the models offering will cater for all. It's the badges people are fighting over. |
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Ich bin ein auslander
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One day you and others here will work out that the majority of the performance market look at a range of figures, acceleration figures are some but in todays world where premium fuel costs enough to make the 75L tank cost over $100 to fill, economy matters too. Not all buyers are set in their habits, some will pick what they believe is the better vehicle out of ford and holden when buying a car, economy comes into it. We do not want to go back to the days of the XF model where we lost the V8 and Holden established the hold on the performance car market they still enjoy today. Rumours such as these concern me as I see it as potential that ford is going to make the same mistake again.
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