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You really don't like the aurion do you kezzer? As a basic run about with half decent looks, bit of oomph and pretty good value, it's not a bad car. No one buys an aurion to win races against fords and holdens.
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My dads a Toyota convert. After owning Falcons and Commodores his whole life he now prefers the fit and finish of the Toyotas and the smootheness too. I personally think they are quite boring, but as a daily driver I cant fault them.
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Great writeup xr8ted - this mirrors my experience of the Aurions. You get quite a bit of kit for your money, and the motor is very sweet. And i believe it's not so much about the chassis' ability to result in a quick car but more it's feel and balance from the driver's perspective.
What i've heard the cops say about them is that they're a bloody quick and nice car, but in the wet they'd prefer a commodore or falcon. I think the bottom line here is were they RWD they'd be a serious threat to commodore or falcon, but whilst they are FWD they're always going to be number 3.
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1. Just because the falcon may be superior in driving feel etc, does not mean you need to be M shumacer to tell the difference. I think any driver once you explained the basics would be able to work out that a certain car is a better 'handler' then another. I'm not saying they would care all that much but given the choice between an aurion as it is now and one that handled properly (for example, was easier to drive) for no difference in price i reckon they'd pick the latter. Bear in mind that alot of 'average punters' push their car pretty hard (take a look next timeyou are out and about....i know soccer mums in territorys on the school run that look like they are shane van gizbergan in the top 10 shootout at bathurst..... 2. I reject the notion that that good handling cars aren't able to compete on their other atributes. Although slightly cheaper in most models, and having more kit in top spec models, the aurion is no better than the FG as a car. It has a lower ANCAP score, its interior is not any better, its fit and finish almost identical and its fuel economy much the same. As a car, it doesn't impress me all that much irrespective of how it drives. As for reliability, well the recent toyota recalls may not prove they are a 'dodgy' car company, but it goes a fair way to proving they aren't really any more 'durable' or 'dependable' than any other car make out there.....
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It's your mums for that reason, she's a mum who wants something reliable. It's stale to you because it's not your FG. I know which I'd be driving though
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* there is a video about, i will find it but being about a year or so old its well hidden, and shows a BF vs VE vs Aurion vs 380, and the aurion trups them all* Personal experience with my own drive car, a certain troll stole my plates one night as I was at willowbank, and in pursuit I chased him down the 1/4 mile, proceeding to do a 14.6@98mph... bloody troll. - i did get my plates back after that, and then sold the car a week after, dealer demonstrator i believe they are called. and yes in the ATX/SX6/personia you can disable the VSC, Presara/ZR6 requires the pulling of the ABS fuse.
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I have to agree, the Aurion feels damn quick even in stock form
Easily would kill a commodore V6, maybe even a stock BF. In a straight line anyway.
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You can disable the Traction control in the Aurion when starting the car up. There is a certain procedure you need to follow in regards to pressing the brake etc. Not need to pull the fuses. Google it if you really need to know.
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as i said DK30RB, only in the lower spec models does this work, upper spec you have to pull the fuses.
*unless this has changed with the updated shape* but I doubt it.
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I have a ZR6 as my second car. A mate has a presara. We can disable traction control without pulling fuses as per the startup sequence. I have tested it on numerous occasions and it works everytime. Mines not the updated shape. All the Aurions have the same procedure to disable to system.
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^^ interesting, didnt work on my company presara yet worked fine on the SX6... sorry ill stand corrected
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if i was after an NA 6 i would not even consider a falcon or commodore, toyota and mitsubishi leave them both for dead as far as im concerned
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I have to say they probably presented the best value for money in their class and considering they are not a performance car, they are a family hack, who cares if they don't like being pushed beyond 7/10's. They do the family hack stuff very well as long as you do not have to tow anything larger than a small box trailer to the tip.
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Power 210kW @ 6400RPM Torque 350Nm @ 2900RPM Fuel Consumption Combined (ADR 81/01) 10.1L/100km Kerb Weight 1770kg Aurion SV6 MY10 Power 200kW @ 6200RPM Torque 336Nm @ 4700RPM Fuel Consumption Combined (ADR 81/01) 9.9L/100km Kerb Weight 1615kg Last time I checked 9.9 is less than 10.1. Power to weight and how it puts the power to the ground effects qtr times more than outright KW anyways. As I said earlier 14.6@98mph it’s not exactly hanging about now is it? Considering a kluger does a 14.98@94mph stock, they aren’t a bad engine for lacking torque/power....
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My only view on the Aurion is that they are about as comfortable to travel in as a wooden bench at the gym.
They all pull along ok, sure I have a preference for the larger slow revving engines but as people have pointed out, 95% of people dont care. Well done on the promotion! (Maybe next one will get you a little better choice in car!) |
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If anytying it is the rest of the car that lets the aurion down. As i said, i look forward to your explanation.....(and please don't waste my time with resale values....they are very close and either way if you want to go down that track your not discussin the car you are discussing acounting and budgeting....not motoring....)
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i have owned a camry and magna in the past and prefered the magna over my BA XR8 in every detail except power, i also had zero issues with the magna even though it was 10yrs old. the 1991 camry i owned before was too old to compare to my 2003 ford, but compared to an early 90s falcon id also take the camry for reliability and comfort but please remember im just giving my opinion, most people here disagree with me..... on most things lol
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Were did you get the figure for the 1/4 mile times? Aurion (A6) 0 - 100 kph in 7.5 sec / 0 - 400 metres in 15.5 sec from an article not that long ago, the VE got 14.6 / 0 -400m, and the xr6 got 14.8 / 0-400m. You were comparing engines... The alloytec SIDI is the better engine, we weren't talking about curb wieght! The fact that the commodore weighs more then the aurion, yet still beats it down the 1/4 really shows this. And the SV6 is downtuned!! Theres a graph floating around of a complete stock SV6 pulling 174rwkw. So, either the earth isn't round, or you're wrong. The Alloytec at the moment is the better NA 6. |
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