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Old 05-08-2014, 08:31 PM   #31
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[QUOTE=Syndrome;5176786]Fixed it for Nissan.[/QUOTE
Nissan Australia wanted to keep Dualis but had to use worldwide name Quashqui (cashki) just like Ford Aus had to use KUGA instead of ESCAPE ..Kuga is Escape in America. Should be Escape makes more sense.
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Thats alot of people for the 11th recall of the commodore this month.
Ever drove past a heap of sheep and sounded the horn?
Reminds me of commodore owners.
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Nissan Australia wanted to keep Dualis but had to use worldwide name Quashqui (cashki) just like Ford Aus had to use KUGA instead of ESCAPE ..Kuga is Escape in America. Should be Escape makes more sense.
the name that annoys me is ecosport.
every time ford has used eco it is as you would think. but in ecosport its pronounced echo sport. silly ford and new names
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Giant Cranium...maybe Ecosport should be called Terrier ?? It's a smaller Territory.
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Six months after the all-new Mazda3 arrived in Australia, Toyota's Corolla has overtaken its sales lead, with the hatch's success bolstered by the Q1 launch of the sedan.

The Corolla passed the Mazda3 in overall sales for 2014 during July, topping the monthly sales charts for the fifth month running.

Toyota found new homes for 3800 Corollas last month, compared with the Mazda3’s 3421 sales. Year-to-date figures for each are now 25,966 and 25,945 respectively.

With end-of-financial-year sales done and dusted, two commercial utilities slipped out of the top-ten as sales figures ‘normalised’ to largely reflect the five months of 2014 before June.

Holden’s Commodore returned to fourth spot after falling to seventh last month, while the Mitsubishi Triton and Nissan Navara slipped out of the top-ten after third and ninth place finishes respectively.

After an ‘SUV-free’ top-ten in June, July saw the Mazda CX-5 finish the month in sixth place on 1895 sales.

Jeep’s Grand Cherokee (1409 sales), the Hyundai ix35 (1380), Toyota Rav4 (1327) and Subaru Forester (1204) rounded-out the top-five for SUVs, showing a spread of sales across size segments.

The Toyota Camry maintained eighth spot from last month, while the Cruze and Colorado made it a strong month for Holden with both models breaking into the top-ten.

While Holden sales are up 6.6 percent for the year, the figures are surprisingly down 11.3 percent on July last year, reflecting an overall downturn in new-car sales.

Hyundai and Nissan managed to buck the trend with improvements of 4.3 and 7.5 percent respectively on July last year, while both Volkswagen and Subaru managed a 0.6 percent improvement.

Just outside the top-ten, Mercedes-Benz continued its strong 2014 with an 11th place finish; 105 sales ahead of Kia in 12th and 130 ahead of Jeep in 13th.

Benz’s B-Class topped the small car segment above $40,000, while the E-Class was the best-selling large car above $70,000.

In the Upper Large segment above $100,000, Maserati's 'sedan' models and the Mercedes-Benz S-Class continued their sales battle with the Maserati beating the Merc by 19 sales this month.

The top-two were reversed last month, and the pair tied for sales in May.

Other class winners included the Mitsubishi Mirage in the sub-light category and the Hyundai iMax for people-movers under $60,000, while the Porsche 911 topped the sports category above $200,000.

Toyota was the top-selling brand again in July, followed by Holden, Hyundai, Mazda and Ford.


Top 10 Selling Brands - July 2014

Toyota - 16,486 sales - down 5.4 percent
Holden - 8990 - down 11.3 percent
Hyundai - 8351 - up 4.3 percent
Mazda - 8048 - down 5.6 percent
Ford - 6210 - down 7.8 percent
Nissan - 5451 - up 7.5 percent
Mitsubishi - 5042 - down 10.4 percent
Volkswagen - 3991 - up 0.6 percent
Subaru - 3121 - up 0.6 percent
Honda - 2708 - down 1.4 percent
Top 10 Selling Models - July 2014

Toyota Corolla - 3800 sales
Mazda3 - 3421
Toyota HiLux - 3140
Holden Commodore - 2469
Hyundai i30 - 2434
Ford Ranger - 2023
Mazda CX-5 - 1895
Toyota Camry - 1805
Holden Cruze - 1747
Holden Colorado - 1443
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Old 06-08-2014, 09:10 AM   #36
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Say what you like about the VF but the sales results speak for themselves.
Ford enthusiasts keep saying you don't need all that tech in a car...and the public keep saying you do.
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Yep, we can bag the Commie all we like, but it is still selling.......
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while the commodore is selling well why the .... would they kill it in 2 years time.
p.s. commodore has great marketing, very patriotic and makes people feel good about buying it.
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Say what you like about the VF but the sales results speak for themselves.
Ford enthusiasts keep saying you don't need all that tech in a car...and the public keep saying you do.
And for what result? It's gone too.

We'll get all the tech we want from our imported lineup.

GM are not a smart company, they never know when to give up. They are losing money with cars like the VF.
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And for what result? It's gone too.

We'll get all the tech we want from our imported lineup.

GM are not a smart company, they never know when to give up. They are losing money with cars like the VF.
I suppose they should have locked the gates on the day they decided it was time to stop manufacturing in Australia?
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I suppose they should have locked the gates on the day they decided it was time to stop manufacturing in Australia?
No, I'm talking about the amount invested in the VF.
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No, I'm talking about the amount invested in the VF.
That money was invested when GM still had plans to keep Holden in Australia, and Holden was pushing to grow it's export market into the US. However, the financial crisis put an end to that when GM decided that they would focus on local US jobs and production.

I've never been a fan of the Commodore and some of their imports have been a nightmare, but at least Holden tried to create an export business plan. Something Mitsubishi and Ford lacked, and Ford had no excuse when they had a class leading product in the Territory.
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while the commodore is selling well .........
I wouldn't say 2,500-3,000 sales per month is selling well. Holden were selling more than double that per month only a dozen or so years ago.
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I wouldn't say 2,500-3,000 sales per month is selling well. Holden were selling more than double that per month only a dozen or so years ago.

Yes but the number 1 selling car now isn't even selling 2002 numbers. So 2500 in this flooded market ain't bad
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Yes but the number 1 selling car now isn't even selling 2002 numbers. So 2500 in this flooded market ain't bad
Not when this is the model's main market and the breakeven point to recover the costs of development is well above 2,500-3,000 sales per month.
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Say what you like about the VF but the sales results speak for themselves.
Ford enthusiasts keep saying you don't need all that tech in a car...and the public keep saying you do.

Lol lol lol.

Cant need too much tech, look at Territory, even with limited build its still holding its own!
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Not when this is the model's main market and the breakeven point to recover the costs of development is well above 2,500-3,000 sales per month.
That's why they are pulling out of production in Australia, along with Ford & Toyota. Nissan & Mitsubishi did it first.

Not enough families want a sedan. Exporting was the only hope, but that died due to many reasons.
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Can people tell me what tech that the VF has that is so special? I honestly want to know. Apart from the HUD, what else? Self Parking? That's really helped the Focus. What else?
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That money was invested when GM still had plans to keep Holden in Australia, and Holden was pushing to grow it's export market into the US. However, the financial crisis put an end to that when GM decided that they would focus on local US jobs and production.

I've never been a fan of the Commodore and some of their imports have been a nightmare, but at least Holden tried to create an export business plan. Something Mitsubishi and Ford lacked, and Ford had no excuse when they had a class leading product in the Territory.
I would loved to have seen the Territory given the opportunity to sell on the world market and prove it’s worth, people don’t know what they have until it’s gone.
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Say what you like about the VF but the sales results speak for themselves.
Ford enthusiasts keep saying you don't need all that tech in a car...and the public keep saying you do.
Nothing to do with it commodore has always out sold the falcon. Mainly because it's been better promoted, and after all it is Australian.
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Nothing to do with it commodore has always out sold the falcon. Mainly because it's been better promoted, and after all it is Australian.
Always?
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Why cant Ford sell FOCUS. Surely supply restraints are not an issue now?
Im guessing, when people do their research on google, they are finding a butt load of problems with the dual clutch auto in the petrol versions (im guessing the same with Fiesta) and fords response of "yeah its like that", im pretty sure is turning alot of people off both cars.

You simply arent getting major issues like this with the Mazda 3 or Corolla. They may have an antiquated CVT transmission, look boring, etc. - but it just works.

In the end, people want peace of mind motoring, the Focus doesn't offer this compared to the competition and fords service department aint helping by the looks of things
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That holden stick thier badges on cheap POS from korea and sell them as the best thing since sliced bread!
Glasshouses......do you realise that Ford import cars from South Africa and Thailand yeah? Both lower cost and generally speaking lower quality than Korea

Korean auto manufacturing has come a long way since the old Hyundai Exel Daewoo Matiz days
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Im guessing, when people do their research on google, they are finding a butt load of problems with the dual clutch auto in the petrol versions (im guessing the same with Fiesta) and fords response of "yeah its like that", im pretty sure is turning alot of people off both cars.

You simply arent getting major issues like this with the Mazda 3 or Corolla. They may have an antiquated CVT transmission, look boring, etc. - but it just works.

In the end, people want peace of mind motoring, the Focus doesn't offer this compared to the competition and fords service department aint helping by the looks of things
There was a known public issue with the sky active technology from Mazda that it would stall the vehicle on start up/take off.
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Nothing to do with it commodore has always out sold the falcon. Mainly because it's been better promoted, and after all it is Australian.
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Nothing to do with it commodore has always out sold the falcon. Mainly because it's been better promoted, and after all it is Australian.
I gave you the benefit of the doubt and assumed you were joking about the Australian part... Hasn't always outsold the Falcon either btw


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Korean auto manufacturing has come a long way since the old Hyundai Exel Daewoo Matiz days

Sure sure, that's all well and good. But the Holden's are Korean designed (maybe not really, but they are all cheap and nasty bar the Commodore) where as the Fords are European or Australian developed. This is reflected in reviews where imported Fords are consistently praised for their steering and dynamics. The imported Holden range is without exception utter garbage - yet it continues to outsell Ford. That's bizarro world for ya.
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