Hunt for man punching kangaroo

[Cobra]

Farmers/landowners shooting an animal because it's a pest is a whole different thing to someone filming deliberate brutality to a weak or injured animal and then posting it on the internet.

[Fev]

This opposite of this thread pretty much..

http://www.bigpond.com/news/offbeat/...09/2360219.asp

[Peuty]

Originally Posted by Cobra

Farmers/landowners shooting an animal because it's a pest is a whole different thing to someone filming deliberate brutality to a weak or injured animal and then posting it on the internet.

I know and I acknowledge that.

My comment was in response to someone thinking it's disgusting shooting them for fun.

[sgt_doofey]

Originally Posted by ams77

can't they trace the video to a ip address from the computer that uploaded the clip and then to a physical address?

Possible, but would need a court order.
An IP address can be traced to an ISP and the ISP could look up their logs to who was assigned that IP address at the time of uploading, but the ISP would need a court order first.

[Fev]

Is it legally required for them to give say, the police, the IP without a court order? because i know if i could do it i would..

[merlin]

Sick little pathetic bastids - torturing an animal is really one of the lowest acts someone can do.

[tex]

I hate to say it, but this sort of thing is a reflection on the society in general. There is a distinct lack of respect nowadays - particularly amongst (SOME) youngens - for everyone, and everything. While I don't profess to know what is fostering this slide in community values, I have my own theory, and it is I believe the older generation (ie me and older) allowing it to occur.

Punishment no longer seems comenserate with criminal activity / anti social behaviour, and 'rough' justice does not get dealt. Court imposed sanctions are a joke, and on the whole do not reflect most community views.

The days of a 6'5" copper giving these little turds a belt under the ear 'ol have long gone, and it would seem so has the days of 'proper' parental imposed values, enforced through a firm but fair hand.

Go out to any bus mall, any inner suburb shopping complex, or other gathering point for the youth of today, and observe the behaviour, the disguisting abuse, intimidation, spitting, littering, grafitti and general NO RESPECT behaviour.

trouble is, it's hard to instill respect for other people / property / wildlife, on people that have no respect for themselves in the first place.

Rant over.

[blueoval]

How UN-australian can you get with these 2 morons.

[Brent]

Originally Posted by tex

I hate to say it, but this sort of thing is a reflection on the society in general. There is a distinct lack of respect nowadays - particularly amongst (SOME) youngens - for everyone, and everything. While I don't profess to know what is fostering this slide in community values, I have my own theory, and it is I believe the older generation (ie me and older) allowing it to occur.

Punishment no longer seems comenserate with criminal activity / anti social behaviour, and 'rough' justice does not get dealt. Court imposed sanctions are a joke, and on the whole do not reflect most community views.

The days of a 6'5" copper giving these little turds a belt under the ear 'ol have long gone, and it would seem so has the days of 'proper' parental imposed values, enforced through a firm but fair hand.

Go out to any bus mall, any inner suburb shopping complex, or other gathering point for the youth of today, and observe the behaviour, the disguisting abuse, intimidation, spitting, littering, grafitti and general NO RESPECT behaviour.

trouble is, it's hard to instill respect for other people / property / wildlife, on people that have no respect for themselves in the first place.

Rant over.

Nailed it square & centre there mate. Spot on.

Maybe its just a social 'phase' we're going through that will disappear again with time. Maybe not. Whatever, but right at the minute, we seem to be running headlong through the era of zero personal responsibility. The "I know my rights" mindset and the good old "Its somebody else's fault why I did something, not mine" approach.

Seems that every 5 minutes there's some no-name sociologist, psychiatrist, or do-gooder inventing a new behavioural syndrome or diagnosis as a handy excuse for what is otherwise known as d*head behaviour. Same old thing.....just shifting the blame away from the clown who does the wrong thing in the first place. As a society we just seem to look the other way, and IMO if you don't stamp out bad behaviour with a firm hand, then as a society, you're basically condoning it.

Oh yeah, as for the hero in the video...........you're a real big man, aren't you? Disgrace, coward, cretin. Take your pick chief.

[uranium_death]

When I read the title, I thought it meant that they were looking for a kangaroo that punched a man.

People like this are despicable. I would like to see them be put on an animal cruelty register, and not allowed to own a pet for a bloody long time, if not never again.

I agree on the $10,000 fine. This was purely intentional, and the fact that they filmed it and put it on Youtube only validates that fact.

We should get that stripper to visit the mongrel who did this, and she can ride him "like a dog or horse".

[Fev]

Originally Posted by tex

I hate to say it, but this sort of thing is a reflection on the society in general. There is a distinct lack of respect nowadays - particularly amongst (SOME) youngens - for everyone, and everything. While I don't profess to know what is fostering this slide in community values, I have my own theory, and it is I believe the older generation (ie me and older) allowing it to occur.

Punishment no longer seems comenserate with criminal activity / anti social behaviour, and 'rough' justice does not get dealt. Court imposed sanctions are a joke, and on the whole do not reflect most community views.

The days of a 6'5" copper giving these little turds a belt under the ear 'ol have long gone, and it would seem so has the days of 'proper' parental imposed values, enforced through a firm but fair hand.

Go out to any bus mall, any inner suburb shopping complex, or other gathering point for the youth of today, and observe the behaviour, the disguisting abuse, intimidation, spitting, littering, grafitti and general NO RESPECT behaviour.

trouble is, it's hard to instill respect for other people / property / wildlife, on people that have no respect for themselves in the first place.

Rant over.

I agree with you but i do have to say its a minority of youth that do this sort of thing.. minority being about 15-20%

[Hillbilly F Truck]

Originally Posted by ams77

can't they trace the video to a ip address from the computer that uploaded the clip and then to a physical address?

Mate i hope so. There have also been a few attacks on Koalas recently in QLD, where mother and baby are tortured to death - broken bones etc.. and decapitated. Reportedly a group of youths were seen to be the perpetrators in one incident. Very concerning behavior, needs to be dealt with, and no wrist slap because if not, it's just saying that it's ok.

[sgt_doofey]

Originally Posted by Fev

Is it legally required for them to give say, the police, the IP without a court order? because i know if i could do it i would..

They need a court order otherwise it's covered by the Privacy Act.

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by sgt_doofey

They need a court order otherwise it's covered by the Privacy Act.

Even then, if they uploaded it at a publicly available computer you have no chance at all at proving who did it.

[WindsorXR]

Hope he gets shot in the face! If anyone knows this guy, can i have his address!?

[MRHELE]

Originally Posted by RobRoy

Mate i hope so. There have also been a few attacks on Koalas recently in QLD, where mother and baby are tortured to death - broken bones etc.. and decapitated. Reportedly a group of youths were seen to be the perpetrators in one incident. Very concerning behavior, needs to be dealt with, and no wrist slap because if not, it's just saying that it's ok.

That's a concern.
How many murderer's have there been where it's been found they tortured and killed animal's before moving their trade onto people...

[JG66ME]

Originally Posted by Dazza XL

The courts need to get tougher on animal cruelty offenders.
RSPCA do the hard yards to get a case, only to have the offender stroll out of court with a $400 fine.
Whatever happened to enforcing the maximum penalty?
Edit- Screw the $400. Start at a $10k minimum penalty and work your way up from there.
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I am with you mate. Animal cruelty is one offence that should be stamped out. Those that are cruel to creatures that have no deffence are nothing but cowards.

[Cobra]

Originally Posted by MRHELE

That's a concern.
How many murderer's have there been where it's been found they tortured and killed animal's before moving their trade onto people...

Anyone who has ever studied psychology would tell you that it's almost a given that murders, serial killers and the like all tortured animals when they were younger.

[ltd]

Just goes to show that having children should be licenced. This would certainly upset a lot of people but bogans, shackas, losers, 18 yo pensioners etc are all sub intelligent and prolifically breed to the detriment of the species. If we as a society allow these fringe dwelling troglodytes to have offspring, we are merely ensuring our own downfall as a species. I reckon blame could be shifted to governments as well for the lack of suitably jailing petty offenders and juveniles who engage in this sort of behaviour. I'd hunt the bastards down and take them to the zoo where we could put them amongst the lions. I'll take bets on the lion vs the urban twat.

[ltd]

Originally Posted by Cobra

Anyone who has ever studied psychology would tell you that it's almost a given that murders, serial killers and the like all tortured animals when they were younger.

Exactly 100% correct.

We need to get really tough in this now or else we will be ensuring that these kind of inbred idiots graduate to more heinous crimes.

It's like when the police commissioner decided to crack down on fare evasion in NYC for their zero tolerance laws. He said and I quote; "Not everyone who is a fare evader is a hardened criminal, but you can bet every hardened criminal is a fare evader". That was unbelievably one of their biggest successes at cleaning NYC up.
The point is, that we need to make people who do petty things like this accountable. Name them and shame them and send them to prison. Another thing, WTF is with these prisons? What kind of deterrant are they with cable, pools, game boy etc? Give them an 8 x 6 foot box they can rot in 23 hours a day and watch crimes drop as criminals become scared witless of the place.

[sgt_doofey]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Even then, if they uploaded it at a publicly available computer you have no chance at all at proving who did it.

People who do this sort of things probably wouldn't be smart enough to think of things like that, hopefully.

[eb_5litre]

I think theres more important news going on in the world.
A possibly drunk male has done something stupid in the heat of a testorone filled moment which was stupidly captured on video and now the media and general public have labelled him a kangaroo murderer (didnt see it die) and a psychopath.
I'm fairly confident this sort of behaviour has been evident for decades in the bush and it doesnt sit very well with the bleeding hearts.

But hey.... lets string him up anyway if it makes us feel better. He's an idiot, we all know it, but lets put it into perspective and see where it sits amongst current social concerns.

[Cobra]

Originally Posted by eb_5litre

I think theres more important news going on in the world.
A possibly drunk male has done something stupid in the heat of a testorone filled moment which was stupidly captured on video and now the media and general public have labelled him a kangaroo murderer (didnt see it die) and a psychopath.
I'm fairly confident this sort of behaviour has been evident for decades in the bush and it doesnt sit very well with the bleeding hearts.

But hey.... lets string him up anyway if it makes us feel better. He's an idiot, we all know it, but lets put it into perspective and see where it sits amongst current social concerns.

The end result, whether the Kangaroo died is netiher here nor there. Of course it would be sad if the Kangaroo died, but I think you're totally missing the point of why this has turned into such a big thing. The point IS that these bunch of cretins INTENTIONALLY beat up a defenseless animal to the point at which it was knocked unconcious, then decided that the filming of it was so funny (as evidenced by the with the camera/phone laughing) that it was worth putting up on youtube. So, regardless of the outcome, do you not see how this bemuses so many people as to how someone could do such a thing? The difference between punching a human and punching an animal is that people could assume an array of reasons as to why this man may have hit someone else, but can you in your right mind think of any reason as to why this scumbag beat up an animal other than being a sick twisted cowardly bully? He'll get his own, one day...

[eb_5litre]

And my point was that its not the first time this has happened and it wont be the last. But because it has been uploaded to youtube everyone has gone hysterical.

Once again, IMO there are more important things worth worrying about.

I once hit a frog across the road with a 3 Wood, Ive hit 3 kangaroos (all of which hopped away), ive set cane toads on fire, pulled wings off blowflies and put liquid paper on their eyes, gone roo and rabbit shooting etc

That must make me a psychothatic serial killer apparently.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by eb_5litre

And my point was that its not the first time this has happened and it wont be the last. But because it has been uploaded to youtube everyone has gone hysterical.

Once again, IMO there are more important things worth worrying about.

I personally think that this is a very poor attitude to have on this topic.

First time or 100th time, makes no difference.

People KNOW what's right and wrong, what's funny at the time and what is pure evil.

Yes, there are greater problems with the world but all great problens start samll... these people are sick troubled little boys. Brushing off what they did with a 'meh.... and?' is just wrong..

[Russ]

Originally Posted by eb_5litre

And my point was that its not the first time this has happened and it wont be the last. But because it has been uploaded to youtube everyone has gone hysterical.

Once again, IMO there are more important things worth worrying about.

I once hit a frog across the road with a 3 Wood, Ive hit 3 kangaroos (all of which hopped away), ive set cane toads on fire, pulled wings off blowflies and put liquid paper on their eyes, gone roo and rabbit shooting etc

That must make me a psychothatic serial killer apparently.

You're not friends with the kangaroo puncher are you ??? Some of the things you've done to those poor creatures sound pretty sadistic to me !!!
:togo:

[eb_5litre]

Nah wouldnt know him from a bar of soap.
I work around kangaroos everyday also, I wouldnt run one down and punch its lights out but i'm not going to get my panties in a twist just because other idiot does it either.

Just imagine what else goes on in society that doesnt get caught on camera... SHOCK.
It sounds sadistic now but when I was 13 a flaming canetoad hopping across the yard and the sound a frog makes when suddenly compressed by the force of a 3 Wood was extremely funny...... did I grow up to be a mass murderer?

[Russ]

Originally Posted by eb_5litre

...... did I grow up to be a mass murderer?

I suppose we've all done some pretty strange things in our lives, as far as you being a mass murderer, well we'll just have to wait and see won't we !!! :

[FPV8U]

Anyone defending someone for bashing a animal just for the fun of it needs to be checked out.. a Shark attacks someone.. we go on a hunt, a croc takes someone who is swimming in their water, we shoot it.. this person deserves no better

Sure worse things do happen.. it's one thing to film this filth but to put it on the net shows it was not just a random drunken act, obviously this pathetic piece of $#!T thinks it's funny..

Sad thing is in a society addicted to punishing maximum penalties, for those who commit minimal crimes like Speeding, we have forgotten how to really punnish people like this.

[MitchG]

Well i hope he feels real tuff now! if he continues these acts of cruelty he is onley gonna get burnt, in a big way to! just a few weeks ago in sunbury VIC a bloke got ripped up by a roo, not killed but seriously injured, i have also seen a hunting dog get ripped to pices by a male roo...obvisely this gutless Pr#@k has chosen to pick on a smaller weaker one...