Petiton for enquiry into LPG pricing finally!

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by bobthebilda

Theres literally millions of square kilometres off the coast of WA where you can go explore, extract anď then refine your own LPG. Why dont you go and do it. Those shareholders in the likes of Woodside and Shell etc did it, put alot of their money on the line to do it.

What a silly thing to say,

Are you saying the current price is fair?

[timeout]

Well what makes anyone think anything other than the standard line of prevailing market conditions and production cost dictate prices.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by timeout

Well what makes anyone think anything other than the standard line of prevailing market conditions and production cost dictate prices.

The current price hike in Australia has nothing to do with standard line of prevailing market conditions and production..

[MercurySilver]

signed
5 more needed

pulled in to get gas at the local country place the other day
sign on pump
"out of order"

unreal
ill be ducking into the larger local town later today to fill up
ill report on price at a few servos

[bobthebilda]

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

The current price hike in Australia has nothing to do with standard line of prevailing market conditions and production..

And the reason for the current price hike is??????? Its a very stupid company that would spend billions of dollars to produce a product, and then try and sell it at a price that no one is willing to pay for it.

[GASWAGON]

5 more and they'll have 200 signatures.....C'mon peoples we need as many as we can get!

[LightningStrike]

Signed. Thanks for getting this moving!

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by bobthebilda

And the reason for the current price hike is??????? Its a very stupid company that would spend billions of dollars to produce a product, and then try and sell it at a price that no one is willing to pay for it.

The current price hike is blamed on Cold conditions and supply in Europe. thus Australias price has changed due to the Saudi Aramco Contract Price.

I stand by my previous comment, the Australian suply conditions have not changed

do some research..

[Struggo]

Canberra service stations are running out of gas as multiple Cootes Transport trucks remain off-road, disrupting deliveries throughout the ACT and New South Wales.

Caltex, BP and Shell stations have all been affected, forcing motorists to search wider to get their LPG top up.

No other forms of petrol or diesel are impacted.

Caltex Australia spokesman Sam Collyer said at 5.30pm Thursday seven of the 10 Caltex and Caltex Woolworth branded stores in the ACT were out of LPG

Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-...#ixzz2nsfsxUHC

[MercurySilver]

1.06c seems to be the norm
tank took 65 bucks worth

[GASWAGON]

Originally Posted by LightningStrike

Signed. Thanks for getting this moving!

Someone had to do it...Everyone else is just too bloody lazy or hypocritical!

[bobthebilda]

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

The current price hike is blamed on Cold conditions and supply in Europe. thus Australias price has changed due to the Saudi Aramco Contract Price.

I stand by my previous comment, the Australian suply conditions have not changed

do some research..

you stated the price hike had nothing to do with prevailing market conditions and production. Now you are saying it is blamed on cold conditions and supply in Europe. You are arguing with yourself here, not with me. Supply issues in Europe is a market condition, when you consider that supply and demand are the two main determinants in a products price.

[ultvict]

Signed. 200 reached.

[GASWAGON]

You beat me to it......Well done mate thanks heaps.......200 WOHOOO!

[GASWAGON]

O.k they're going for 300 now......Please send the link to ANYONE you think will sign it....Even Holden fans lol!

[davids_gxl]

signed

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by bobthebilda

you stated the price hike had nothing to do with prevailing market conditions and production. Now you are saying it is blamed on cold conditions and supply in Europe. You are arguing with yourself here, not with me. Supply issues in Europe is a market condition, when you consider that supply and demand are the two main determinants in a products price.

Do I have to underline it.. I said IN AUSTRALIA

[GASWAGON]

They're now going for 500 signatures now.....Please sign guys I promise your fingers wont get hurt!

[Blem]

signed

[Jastel]

For whatever good it will do...I signed
As a multiple taxi operator can I sign multiple times??
Get the numbers up...LOL

[GASWAGON]

Originally Posted by Jastel

For whatever good it will do...I signed
As a multiple taxi operator can I sign multiple times??
Get the numbers up...LOL

Well you should be showing your taxi co and all the drivers and talking about it also......You never know we just might be able to get something done!

[ILLaViTaR]

Signed. Thank god it's still 69 cents in Berwick area but I was ****ed when it went above 38 cents. It'll never come back down to that again I'm sure.

It's a by product which they used to dispose of at cost and now they're squeezing every penny with it

[jaydee]

Signed, have 3 family cars on gas. Nothing will change though, not enough of us to make a big enough noise.

[Bushbasher]

The stupid thing is, if our govt. let the public have LPG at a good price, like UAE or Venezuela or any of the other oil producing countries do for their citizens, and only sell off the surplus at global market prices, like UAE or Venezuela or any of the other oil producing countries, then we'd have a thriving LPG industry and would be well on our way to being world leaders in LPG technology. Our economy would be doing so much better because transport costs would be so much lower and Ford and Holden would have been producing and selling many more LPG powered vehicles, which they could have then exported the technology, and probably vehicles, to the rest of the world, maybe even enough to have survived as manufacturers in this country.

This country floats on gas and successive govts. have systematically sold it out from under us, along with all our other natural resources, with no thought or concern for our own citizens. The people of this country, on the whole, get no benefit from all the natural resources this country has to offer thanks to the ineptitude of our politicians and plain old corporate greed.

[stevz]

If everyone has to pay global prices, then why do we give away lpg to China at 4c per litre or some ridiculous price like that?

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Bushbasher

This country floats on gas and successive govts. have systematically sold it out from under us, along with all our other natural resources, with no thought or concern for our own citizens. The people of this country, on the whole, get no benefit from all the natural resources this country has to offer thanks to the ineptitude of our politicians and plain old corporate greed.

I was listening to an interview on ABC radio while ago.
Apparently the person being interviewed had been connected with the Oil/Gas industry, he pretty much said that ALL Oil and Gas mining is meant for the overseas market and we get what's left over.

So basically if we want it we have to pay their prices !

[Bushbasher]

^^^ and that right there is the problem.^^^

That whole philosophy and business model is a$$ backwards as far as the govts. position is or should be. Take care of our own first THEN the greedy corporate suits.

[mash again]

The higher the price the more tax collected, why would the government want the price down, if it gets too high and we buy petrol the tax rate is higher on petrol, its win win for Govco.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by mash again

The higher the price the more tax collected, why would the government want the price down, if it gets too high and we buy petrol the tax rate is higher on petrol, its win win for Govco.

I don't think it quite works like that, it's a flat tax, not a percentage according to Wiki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_taxes_in_Australia
The Goods and Services Tax of 10% is charged and included in the price of all fuel purchases in Australia.

The excise tax on commonly used fuels in Australia as of June 2006 are as follows:[citation needed]
A$0.38143 per litre on Unleaded Petrol fuel (Includes standard, blended (E10) and premium grades)
A$0.38143/0.40143 per litre on Diesel fuel (Ultra-low sulphur/Conventional)
A$0.05 per litre on Liquified petroleum gas used as fuel (Autogas or LPG as it is commonly known in Australia) till 30/06/2014.
A$0.38143 per litre on Ethanol fuel (Can be reduced/removed via Grants)
A$0.38143 per litre on Biodiesel (Can be reduced/removed via Grants)

[OLDFORDNUT]

yes im sure the lpg tax is heaps less than petrol which is taxed at much higher rate