Ford Mustang GT v Holden Commodore SS-V Redline v Chrysler 300 SRT comparison review

[2242100]

Originally Posted by chris0

Am I the only one who seems to recall the yanks getting a far better 0-62mph time in the same car? Not that it is the only thing you would buy one for, but you know..

I believe that US testers often don't actually get the published times because they use a correction system for what the car would achieve with a full fuel load under pretty good conditions.
Check on the net. Car and Driver explain how it's done in a video and I've also been told that Motor Trend was doing the same thing.
I know Road and Track were publishing the exact test times when they were based on the West Coast, but a few years back they moved their office to Michigan and I can't say that they are still routinely posting the actual times.

Also importantly US testers normally set their timing gear to only start counting when the car has moved 1 foot and that commonly reduces the time by about 3 tenths.

Regarding the Mustangs 5.6 to 100 km/h, I'd expect later tests to cut that down a fair bit.

[XR Martin]

Less power due to Euro spec exhaust is to blame for lesser performance I imagine.

[2242100]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Less power due to Euro spec exhaust is to blame for lesser performance I imagine.

Part of the reason too I guess, but Motor did get a 4.9 out of a US spec car and 5.6 is well behind that.
The problem with just a 0-100 time is we don't know how much time it lost to wheelspin getting off the line and what it's rolling acceleration is like.

[SpoolMan]

Originally Posted by Express

When you factor in the Mustang's lengthy waiting list and the impending end of the Aussie-made Commodore, picking the Holden seems like the obvious choice for anyone who loves a great V8.

So its the obvious choice because its a Aussie built car and there is no waiting list, he wouldn't have needed to test drive them to know that..

[Falcon SXR8]

Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

Why no XR8 you clown of the anus Ottley? The SS is done and dusted like the XR8, so why omit it from the review???

Ford probably didnt want there new poster child being flogged by there outgoing model

[Tommie]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Ford website states curtain airbags as standard, along with dual front and side thorax airbags as well as knee airbags for both front passengers.

That sounds more right and logical. I was just going off the article as written by the journo. Should have known better...

[Express]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Doesnt the Mustang have overhead airbags in the rear?

Only in the Convertible.

[Fordman1]

Every time I see a VF SS I think of a Holden Cruze or Dame Edna.

Nice muscle car if you want to look feminine.

[4vxc]

Originally Posted by tempted

I don't think anyone here is interested in your queer Dame Edna fantasies.

Love it or loathe it the VF is the best car ever produced by this country.

At least the best local car with a imported engine , that is if we ignore those A pillars

[mr_xlr8]

5.6 sec 0-100...that is a bit hows it goin.

[DanielXR8]

Originally Posted by Barraxr8

Every time I see a VF SS I think of a Holden Cruze or Dame Edna.

Nice muscle car if you want to look feminine.

I've yet to drive a car that threatens my masculinity, but some on here seem obsessed about what everyone is thinking about them or their appendage or who they slept with last night, all based on a car of all things.

I don't care and maybe you shouldn't either.

[GasoLane]

If this thread starts getting personal it will go the way of the Dodo and cease to exist.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by tempted

Love it or loathe it the VF is the best car ever produced by this country.

That's be the ugliest locally made car with the least local content too- other than the Cruize.

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by tempted

I've spent the last 6 years and 100,000km in a VE. Cannot recall a single occasion when the pillars have interfered with my vision or caused any sort of issue.

Owned a VE Clubsport, then went to an FG F6 and didn't notice any better (or worse) visibility being obscured by the A pillar and then an EvoX which again is pretty much the same. The size of the plastics appeared larger in the VE but the additional visible rubber and door of the FG evened it out (from what I can recall..)

[Rodp]

Odd comparison if you ask me. 3 cars that the only thing in common I can see is they're all V8's. Each of them appeal to a different buyer.

If the Mustang had a shorter waiting list, the other two cars could be faster, more nimble, more fuel efficient and have more gadgets, but I'd choose the Mustang every single day of the week.

[Sox]

Originally Posted by tempted

Love it or loathe it the VF is the best car ever produced by this country.

Even if it was, which of course it isn't, it is still pretty butt ugly.


Luckily all this is subjective, cos I reckon the best car ever made in the land down under was of course the mighty AU Falcon back in 1998-2002.

[Uncle_Ken]

Originally Posted by Sox

Even if it was, which of course it isn't, it is still pretty butt ugly. image


Luckily all this is subjective, cos I reckon the best car ever made in the land down under was of course the mighty AU Falcon back in 1998-2002.

Ford some strange reason I agree
UK
(As he goes back to the AU Falcon section)

[Windsor220]

The VF should be the best car made in this country. Its the most recent model. I'm not going to include FGX because Ford had already announced the Falcons end before its release and didn't invest much money in it.

[Express]

Originally Posted by Barraxr8

Every time I see a VF SS I think of a Holden Cruze or Dame Edna.

Nice muscle car if you want to look feminine.

And that is the exact reason why I never call any of my Commodores Horace.

[bradFPV]

The mustang isn't doing it for me yet. I don't want the falcon to die :(

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by bradFPV

The mustang isn't doing it for me yet. I don't want the falcon to die :(

The previous models say 2005 on look better to me...
Just my opinion

[duaned]

Originally Posted by Sox

Even if it was, which of course it isn't, it is still pretty butt ugly. image


Luckily all this is subjective, cos I reckon the best car ever made in the land down under was of course the mighty AU Falcon back in 1998-2002.

May have been the best built car in Australia (I dis-agree) but it sure was the ugliest! (T series aside)

[MethodX]

We have gone from which company is more Australian, to which car is more masculine...

Didn't the phase 3 use an imported engine?

[Giant Cranium]

I want to own none in that review. Ss redline wagon for me!

[MAGPIE]

However, that initial feeling of excitement about the V8 is dampened by its low rev performance - or rather the lack thereof. The 5.0-litre is missing a real punch below 4000rpm which is disappointing. Rev it to 4000rpm and beyond and the story changes, as it roars and offers up excellent top end performance.

I don't understand this, my 2011 has no such issue. If you use full throttle it takes off like a scared and frightened rabbit.

[mick74GT]

Originally Posted by tempted

I've spent the last 6 years and 100,000km in a VE. Cannot recall a single occasion when the pillars have interfered with my vision or caused any sort of issue.

I've had an E3 Maloo as my daily the last 5 years and I agree. Never even thought about the A pillars

[PALE ALE]

Originally Posted by MethodX

We have gone from which company is more Australian, to which car is more masculine...

Didn't the phase 3 use an imported engine?

No, while components were u.s. sourced, the engines were developed by engineers Ian Stockings and Bill Santuccione

[kypez]

Originally Posted by chris0

Am I the only one who seems to recall the yanks getting a far better 0-62mph time in the same car? Not that it is the only thing you would buy one for, but you know..

Thought most US tests are 0-60. That extra 2mph makes a little difference. With the old BA 5 speed, getting to 100 was an extra gear shift at 98kms/hr.

Overall, I don't mind the cars being pitted against each other, but giving the win purely on availability is a long bow to string IMO.

[mik]

half a second slower to a hundred kph , it means little , and who really cares, in any event surely the yardstick has been the standing quarter/400 metres, the only thing nought to a hundred establishes is traction in my book, the real mark of performance is top end.

[damo6]

Originally Posted by Wretched

May be they couldn't get one, according to people here, the XR8 has a long waiting list.

Nah,i doubt thats the problem. Quick look on carsales has 18 demos and 2 used ones around brisbane.having said that the other states maybe different