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Old 30-01-2015, 05:11 PM   #31
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i actually weighed my AU at work, not long after i got it , it was 1550 with half a tank and the truck weigh bridge scales are accurate to plus or minus 20 kg .
Geebus, my ST was 1580kg with me in it and next to no fuel at the local tip.
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Old 30-01-2015, 06:01 PM   #32
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Heaps of big family's drive there clapped out 1990s Toyota Estima's and Honda Oddyseys with leaking shocks and worn suspension around south Auckland fully loaded up with the family and what not, I don't see them crashing into many moose, so what's the problem with this brand new car
It's doubtful that neither the Toyota or Honda would pass like that

The Mercedes 'A' class failed the Moose/Elk test a few years ago, so they (Mercedes) fixed the problem and sent it back for retesting.
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Old 30-01-2015, 06:11 PM   #33
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Heaps of big family's drive there clapped out 1990s Toyota Estima's and Honda Oddyseys with leaking shocks and worn suspension around south Auckland fully loaded up with the family and what not, I don't see them crashing into many moose, so what's the problem with this brand new car
Hmm so your argument is that you see lots of families in unsafe old cars, so whats wrong with them being in unsafe new cars instead?
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Old 30-01-2015, 06:37 PM   #34
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Hmm so your argument is that you see lots of families in unsafe old cars, so whats wrong with them being in unsafe new cars instead?

The thing is the average Joe doesn't care at all about how much his car weighs, if he can fit people or luggage in his car in one trip instead of 2 then he probably will. I don't know anyone who has ever given a rat's **** about only taking 3 passengers or no luggage because its a bit heavier than it apparently should be according to some scientist in the other side of the world
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Old 30-01-2015, 08:22 PM   #35
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Ok, hands up everyone that weighs their car (with wife, kids, dog and luggage) before leaving on holiday.
Never ever weigh the wife. Won't end well.
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Old 31-01-2015, 12:20 AM   #36
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Geebus, my ST was 1580kg with me in it and next to no fuel at the local tip.
So if you had a full tank and you where not in it...... they would be similar weight ? hmm surprising the st isnt a fair bit lighter, i guess the st has a bit more kit in it than the au .... not to hard there ay .

dunno if its right or not but XR8`s seem to be a listed as a little lighter than a similar equipped model in 6 cyl version, by 20 or 30 kg from memory, may be grand pas axe is a bit on the weighty side .
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Old 31-01-2015, 04:54 PM   #37
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realistically, look at an touring ute set up for holidays, tradie utes etc there all mostly overloaded, just the kind of thing everyone seems to turn a blind eye to, and smash the truck drivers instead
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Old 31-01-2015, 05:04 PM   #38
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The Mercedes 'A' class failed the Moose/Elk test a few years ago, so they (Mercedes) fixed the problem and sent it back for retesting.
I thought you were going to say they sacked the moose
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Old 31-01-2015, 05:18 PM   #39
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So if you had a full tank and you where not in it...... they would be similar weight ? hmm surprising the st isnt a fair bit lighter, i guess the st has a bit more kit in it than the au .... not to hard there ay .

dunno if its right or not but XR8`s seem to be a listed as a little lighter than a similar equipped model in 6 cyl version, by 20 or 30 kg from memory, may be grand pas axe is a bit on the weighty side .
Im not trusting the scale lol, went there today to off load some more junk, was 1.54 tonnes this time with more fuel. I dont think i have lost any weight
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My G6ET was 1930kg's even on the dump scales with me in it and ~20 liters of used oil. The same load in my 65 mustang was 1200kg's on the nose.
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My G6ET was 1930kg's even on the dump scales with me in it and ~20 liters of used oil. The same load in my 65 mustang was 1200kg's on the nose.
That's an example of why people drop modern engines into old cars and do nothing more to modify the engine...why bother? The weight saving along would be worth a huge amount of horsepower.
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That being said, a 69 Mustang would be a fair bit heavier than a 65.
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Old 31-01-2015, 06:30 PM   #43
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Additional weight will increase your tyre's rolling resistance.

So spending that extra money on tyres for a modern car that was made post-1993 is probably pointless

This thread makes me even happier about owning an old rust bucket.
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Old 31-01-2015, 09:24 PM   #44
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if you load a car to the max, any car, you should weigh it. The onus is on the driver not the manufacturer.
Are you saying Ford should hire no engineers? Millions of engineering costs in making a new model, and seeing as that cost is passed down to us I'd expect them to do their job!
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Old 01-02-2015, 06:51 PM   #45
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what does that mean? just because I can physically fill every nook and cranny of my boot with bricks, does that mean I should be able to do so and still be within the weight limits? of course not. It's my responsibility as a driver to load the car safely and within manufacturer limits.
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