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roughly 100mm in shoulder room and 125mm rear leg room - about a palm width in both directions. While Ford would never lengthen and widen a Focus to do that, it proves the point that the difference in space between a small car like that and a big car is not that much, where the difference comes in is all the extra fluff motor companies put around it to gain perception of added value and features of performance and towing ability not found or arguably needed in a small car. Last edited by jpd80; 03-04-2012 at 10:21 PM. |
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for people that are hurting with the cost of living
it`s hard to see them picking a big sedan in the upper fuel usage bracket when they can get a medium size car you can make do with that uses a tad less fuel and with a lower outright purchase cost. in my book this the main reason why people are going for the small/medium size pos, the sad part about it is no matter how good the big car is and how mediocre the medium small car is, if people are cost cutting (as a lot of the population is)the smaller vehicle will get sale. It will be interesting to see the figures at the end of 2012 with the diesel terri and 4 potter falcon. |
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While there's a disconnect with retail sales, the loss of fleets is the biggest problem for big car makers.
Having two very fuel efficient alternatives for fleets is key to Falcon's long term survival: - EcoLPI, a large LPG car has traditionally been popular with fleets - Holden has one too - Ecoboost, a frugal I-4 turbo, a lighter car, four cylinder credentials - Holden doesn't have one |
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Reliability is Fords strong point ........ perception may be a weak point and constant statements like these on a forum dedicated to the brand is probably another reason. Really .... what hope have they got. You might have had a problem with a couple but in the scheme of things, they are a bloody great car, in design, BFYB & reliability ..... believe it or not.
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Ford need a big wake up call.
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But you will also have those who continue to buy because they are reliable. I for one would not and do not have the crap load of money to waste over such a long period of time on something that is crap. Not that stupid believe it or not.
Despite some small issues like those above ...... (had BA warped brakes, easy fix and bad dealer experiences, easy fix), there are of course some things that can and have been improved. A few specific problems, ball joints which has been addressed, diff bushes (hopefully .... jury still out) for the quantities that have been sold is for me and many 1000's been a good experience and no reason to change. Sheep will be sheep and having a Mazda 3 must be the going thing.
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Another thing that Ford struggles with that Mazda has downpat is supply, we get ripped off big time in the grand scheme of things (Focus and Ranger continue to hurt due to no supply).
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The only one that had a couple of minor issue was my 2007 MPS3 which had a idler pulley crap itself and a bose speaker die. I modded that car (suspension, wheels/tyres and bolt on power upgrades) and tracked it and it still held up well. It is currently still going with no issues with the person who bought it off of me in 2009. At the moment we only have the wifes SP25 sedan and my FPV F6 as our daily drive cars (I still have the V8 XP coupe and my old VRX magna), reason i moved on from the mazdas was i wanted a large turbo'd RWD car and Ford/FPV just happened to build what i wanted. (I wont class my G6ET as a good expierience considering how much of a lemon it was, so that car is quickly disgarded as one ive owned) Id have no issues buying another Mazda if they had what i wanted in there range. Last edited by zoomie; 03-04-2012 at 11:34 PM. Reason: spelling |
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I have a little over 12 months before my lease is up on my G6ET and it will be the last Ford I buy. I'm just over it all. With the crap quality of finish and then you have to nearly have a title fight to get them to admit there is a problem. As far as I'm concerned they went backward in quality control when the FG came out. |
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Fords problem is they don't advertise. And when they do... their advertising sucks.
Funny how people say the Mazda 3 is performing better than Ford product. When the Mazda 3 is off of Ford's C1 platform. And despite all this as Boss said. Mazda is losing billions of dollars, and are looking to partner up with someone as they are simply in hot water as far as goes. So they may be selling these but are they making money off of them? ford is posting huge surplus of cash globally. But as far as Australia actually goes. They aren't attacking the market... their just watching their share slide. But by the looks of the Falcon MkII website... looks like they might be gearing up for a campaign to get back in there. Hopefully they've hit rock bottom and now it's up time. Go Ford. And all you Ford hating rappers. Everyone is waiting for you at ls1 or gminsidenews or camrylovers or wherever you're from.
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ford forums not falcon forums, i am a car enthusiast. that prefers holden. would i by a ford? yes...as long its not an australian made one..
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By rights, if the platform is the same winning platform, they should be selling both in equal measure. Yet, one is completely trashing the other. Is there a difference in build quality? Is it lack of supply? Is it because the indicator stalk is on the wrong side? Is it the difference the Ford Dealer network? If Ford was selling as many Focus and Mazda is selling the 3, we would all be nodding our heads wisely talking about Ford’s brilliant adaption to a new small car reality. But it is not happening … |
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How about Ford drop the Focus and bring back the Telstar ?? ie the Mazda 3 badged as Telstar ? Which Ford did in the 1980's .
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I liked the first gen more so than the second gen but that is due to a style thing. There is nothing really wrong with the Mazda 3, it is a great car. Mazda deserve the sales figures. The Focus is a damn good car too, the sales aren't too bad for it.
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Mazda 6 ne 626 was Telstar. And both of those suggestions are contrary to One Ford. So not a chance. Lukeyson
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same goes for dealer servicing/experience etc. so many people crucify the brand over one or two stories or experiences they have heard of, or had themselves. again, not an accurate indication of the brand as a whole. like others, i have had every model since XF and would class them as a very reliable, good value product, and will continue to buy and promote them. so many people think that because they don't suit their needs, then they don't suit anyone's needs. many need to look at things from a much broader point of view. |
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I had warped rotors on my BA turbo, got them fixed. No dramas. At the time it was the best car I had owned.
Now Im on my FG turbo...it has been faultless. The FG is a cut above the BA. Happy Falcon customer here. |
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One Ford is utter rubbish. What happened to different variants to suit different markets? Focus sales have tanked in Europe as the Europeans (expecting something sharp to drive) haven't warmed to the car's feel-free steering. European drivers have at least flocked to the far superior Fiesta.
Gotta love One Ford; destroying sales in international markets just to cut costs. Why does Ford have to be run by Murrcans who can't see past the length of their own noses?
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As long as Ford captures a significant slice of people down-sizing (which seems to be the case) its all good!
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However, I don't work for Ford, I'm just a car enthusiast, and from the point of view of this particular car enthusiast, One Ford isn't healthy. I just can't help thinking that One Ford was implemented from a strictly American perspective.
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