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EXTERIOR - YES | 172 | 46.11% | |
EXTERIOR - NO | 189 | 50.67% | |
INTERIOR - YES | 273 | 73.19% | |
INTERIOR - NO | 93 | 24.93% | |
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10-02-2013, 07:58 PM | #1 | ||
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it looks like it was trying to be a mercedes benz but stopped halfway cos it got to difficult, though i must say, nice interior, pitty the outside isnt nice - stretched out cruze
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10-02-2013, 08:00 PM | #2 | |||
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I like it, the Calais has a GREAT interior, in my opinion, nicer than G6E. And I am liking the look of the SS(?) in the promo pic. Will wait to see one in person before I make my final call on it.
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10-02-2013, 08:09 PM | #3 | |||
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Let's see what Ford do. I can't help but think that GM basically told Holden what they needed to include in the interior tech. This is being made into a Chev. All of this "Australia designed" blah blah. I like this Commodore, but it's obvious that Australian stylists did not have a big say in the frontal, rear, and interior changes. It is basically a Chev now, built in Australia. That's the only reason why it's getting things like HUD etc. Americans have had these features for years.
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And if Dearborn turned around and told Ford Oz that they must squeeze the new Fusion interior into the Falcon, I wouldn't complain...........
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10-02-2013, 09:41 PM | #5 | |||
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Congratulations to Holden for pulling this off. It is now one of the most high tech cars in the GM world stable. Not a bad effort at all for a VE refresh. |
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10-02-2013, 09:45 PM | #6 | ||
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Is it getting HID's/Xenon's? I can't see the headlight washers
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10-02-2013, 08:05 PM | #7 | ||
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Interior reminds me of Cruze or an Infiniti, and the outside just looks like a Lexus GS/ Malibu / Chrysler Sebring hybrid.
Commodore has died imo. Just doesn't look like a 'Holden Commodore' anymore. Ah well should be a good car and hopefully Falcon will raise the bar again. |
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10-02-2013, 11:30 PM | #8 | |||
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The side-on picture someone posted looks HORRIBLE. VE doors and different front and rear end that just dont fit. No congruence with the styling. Crap.
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10-02-2013, 08:10 PM | #9 | |||
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Interesting report on Channel seven news here in Vic, basically said it was the last aussie Commodore and the next model would be a global 4 cylinder and FWD. Now if Holden are so proud of that, why is it such a big issue if that was happening to Falcon too?
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10-02-2013, 08:17 PM | #10 | ||
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Theres a lot of other cars DNA in it. Not fan of the rear. The interior looks better than VE, but not huge fan..need to see it in flesh.
will be keen tl see next 3 motns VE sales...
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10-02-2013, 08:44 PM | #11 | ||
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Looks good, hope they sell quite a lot of them.
Would have preferred the camaro tail lights though. |
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10-02-2013, 09:12 PM | #13 | ||
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That Calais looks like it would look right at home in a Buick show room over in the States.
I spent a bit of time in a LaCrosse back in 2011, and those pics look pretty similar inside and out to the vehicle I had. Cheers Steve |
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10-02-2013, 09:30 PM | #14 | |||
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Already been mentioned that there is a fair amount of flack over the new design on various Holden forums.
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10-02-2013, 09:35 PM | #15 | ||
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plenty of ooh's and ahh's on here.
most of them are from those that are normally the first to stick the boots in to ford. no surprise really that true colours are shown |
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10-02-2013, 09:43 PM | #16 | ||
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Get over it mate, the days of Holden vs Ford are long gone, its Australian vs imports now and we should be doing our best to support the local product regardless of the badge.
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10-02-2013, 09:50 PM | #17 | |||
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have a look at the comments. i have no problem with people praising the product, but then using the opportunity to have an extra dig at the opposition (which happens to be australian made also, even moreso) is very typical of those doing it. there are many members on here that only seem to comment when its a GM related article or its vfacts time and they can offer their 'wisdom'. |
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10-02-2013, 10:01 PM | #18 | ||
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I must be an old school supporter, to me its always Ford vs Holden. Cant wait for the next Falcon pity its at least 18 months away.
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10-02-2013, 10:00 PM | #19 | |||
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There will be lots of discussion about the VF at Ford over the next few weeks. Maybe you can attend and tell them to get over themselves, because they aren't Ford enough for you. |
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10-02-2013, 11:16 PM | #20 | |||
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I didn't like the exterior much when I first saw it but I feel it looks much better in the red and darker colours. The interior looks excellent in the dark trim. Don't know if it has been posted, but more pics here... http://theage.drive.com.au/photogall...210-2e64k.html Has anyone noticed the old school door locks on the doors? Last edited by naddis01; 10-02-2013 at 11:25 PM. |
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10-02-2013, 11:46 PM | #23 | |||
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I must admit that many cars these days I see on the road, I cannot easily identify because of the similar rear ends. This will be another. |
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11-02-2013, 12:50 AM | #24 | |||
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All I can say is that if Ford want the Falcon update to be remotely successful they're going to have to pull out the cheque book and keep making 'em out, cause GM certainly made sure it had all of their goodies! |
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10-02-2013, 09:24 PM | #26 | ||
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At first I wasn't keen on the look of it from outside but in a few hours it has grown on me and I'm starting to like it. The car obviously has some euro look to it as no doubt it part of the bigger plan for exporting it, the Aussie look died a while ago as it doesn't help exportation. Lets face it the usual die hard Ford fans will knock it just as the Holden fans will knock the Ford but there is no doubt that we build great cars here in Australia and it would be a shame to see that end, unfortunately they are moving more and more towards euro styling.
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10-02-2013, 09:44 PM | #27 | ||
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Its just an average design to me. Not ugly or anything like that but its not really appealing either. The sort of car that will just blend in after a couple of months.
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10-02-2013, 09:46 PM | #28 | ||
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That's good though. We know how cars which stand out (excluding exotics) fare on the market.
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10-02-2013, 09:46 PM | #29 | ||
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i heard commodores replacement was a new Taurus hahahahah
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10-02-2013, 10:16 PM | #30 | ||
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Some nice improvements here, the largest being the interior/tech upgrades. The images certainly convey an effort to bring the interior up a few cogs in quality terms so will be good to see one in the flesh. The exterior has lost a lot of the original VE aggression but if exporting to the US was going to be a success, they had to consider how the design would translate to that market. The proportions carried over from VE are still a strong point compared to FG. Not totally convinced about the new front and rear ends. I like the lower half of the front end but for me, the headlight and grill design has a little too much height. The use of aluminium should improve both economy and handling considering the change in weight distribution. Sales figures are going to be interesting considering the retention of drivetrains. Guess we'll find out how much of the "lack of tech" in our locals has driven people away. Unfortunately I still think the general public concensus of SUV flexibility and the often misguided "gas guzzler" tag will be harder to shake. The 2014 falcon has a huge challenge. But so does VF really.
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