New Landcruisers weak as **** ,dont bother

[Falcon Coupe]

Nissan Titan does.

[schmidty]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Whats so good about 420Nm out of a 4.2L $70k+ Toyota?
Hell Euros are getting 500Nm out of a 3.0l.
Latest Rangie gets a 3.6L Diesel with 640Nm!

Ford and Chevy Diesels in the US are over 800nm.

True, but the nissan only pulls 380, or 354 if you've got an auto. Try getting an 800nm Silverado here with the allison auto and see what it owes you! Sure it'll pull city blocks behind it, but try buying it, insuring it, getting parts for it here, parking it at the shops, and finding someone who knows how to work on it. Good if u have a mammoth horse float you want to take across the country. Try taking 1 onto fraser or into the bush! Got friends with a surburban, and what a waste of time that $h!tbox is!

The thread was basically saying toyota have turned to crap. Just saying i've had good experiences, wasn't tryng for a dyno shootout!

[schmidty]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Try factory 5.6 litre V8.

So what, lets see it off road. It'd drown in the first creek. Another jacked up play ute

[schmidty]

All comes back to horses for courses. As an all rounder i still dont think u can beat the cruiser. Possibly even the patrol ;)

[Falcon Coupe]

Originally Posted by schmidty

So what, lets see it off road. It'd drown in the first creek. Another jacked up play ute

But you were talking about pulling Nissans in half . :

[schmidty]

There's more than 1 way to do that anyway, just free spool the winch out, wrap it all the way around the nissan, hook back onto the front tow hook, short out the control box, and watch it pull itself in half!!!!!!

[Falcon Coupe]

Ok Schmidty, have a look at this Nissan and Tell me you ain't impressed :

http://www.users.on.net/~browie/xxxtitan_short.wmv

[schmidty]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Ok Schmidty, have a look at this Nissan and Tell me you ain't impressed :

http://www.users.on.net/~browie/xxxtitan_short.wmv

Yeah, u wouldnt believe it but i was even going to post that link before! Downloaded that vid earlier in the night. The thing would be a tad second hand after that. So u get on outerlimits too?

[Falcon Coupe]

I browse 4wd forums, i have an 06' Navara common rail TD, but i'm too scared to take it off road.

[Outbackjack]

This why you cant be plodding along wondering when you front end is going to give way... Some of the places where the tourists dont go....

http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...70/Out%20bush/

Cheers.

[schmidty]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

I browse 4wd forums, i have an 06' Navara common rail TD, but i'm too scared to take it off road.

Thats my absolute pick of the 3.0L TD 4wd utes. Had a good drive of 1, very impressive even compared to the new hilux. In this case, i'd take the navara over the hilux any day! But really, it's only a ute for roads. Or out on a farm, but realistically they aren't made for any serious bush or 4 wheel driving. Not bad for touring. Suspension travel is what kills them off road. Pics?

[Falcon Coupe]

Yeah, i had a deposit on a Hilux until i saw the Navara preview in a mag, i have not taken a pic of it yet it's mostly standard, i will get a 2" lift, some A/T's and an alloy bar down the track.
This is exactly the same as mine apart from the LHD.

http://videos.streetfire.net/categor...D8B41802C5.htm

[schmidty]

You'd be mad not to have gotten the navara! The hilux sr5 is overpriced and over rated! I think collectively, hilux's are the most over rated, underperforming peice of crap. I had a lot of trouble with mine when i had it. Had a few mates with lots of trouble with theirs, mainly i suppose because we all had such high expectations of them. Saying that, they were abused well and truly, and went some pretty full on places but i basically couldnt handl having my road speed dictated by the wind direction and speed any longer! I like being able to pull 3 tonnes at 100 and not lose anything up hills, or to power through a bog hole in whatever gear you like.

What sort of mileage does the navara run?

[Falcon Coupe]

At the moment 450klm from 65 litres, but thats loaded with tools and a heavy trade trailer, easy 600klm from same fuel empty, it's 5sp auto, ment to be a little thirsty compared to the manual.

[BA_Turbs]

If people know of some good ustralian 4WD drive forums, feel like posting up some links?

Thanks,

BA_Turbs

[Falcon Coupe]

Originally Posted by BA_Turbs

If people know of some good ustralian 4WD drive forums, feel like posting up some links?

Thanks,

BA_Turbs

http://www.exploroz.com/Splash.asp

[CAMS290]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Ok Schmidty, have a look at this Nissan and Tell me you ain't impressed :

http://www.users.on.net/~browie/xxxtitan_short.wmv

I want a Nissan Titan thanks !

[schmidty]

Originally Posted by BA_Turbs

If people know of some good ustralian 4WD drive forums, feel like posting up some links?

Thanks,

BA_Turbs

Best 1 i have ever found. Very informative, very helpful members, and some funny stuff too. Quite a lot of members with some pretty hardcore rigs and comp trucks. Lots of stuff i wish was in my garage!

www.outerlimits4x4.com

[dogbreath_48]

Originally Posted by schmidty

www.outerlimits4x4.com

[BA_Turbs]

Thanks for the links!

[ondori]

The Landcruisers the Army, and most of the Government get are UN spec. a hell of alot more work goes into these then others, including the number of welds

Nissan titan have a look at this that saying at the end of each vid will drive you mad,

http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/f150/truth/

Please FORD bring the F150 to Australia

[Outbackjack]

The biggest issue with these big ford and other trucks is their width. When you go bush it is not just the ground clearance, articulation, approach and depart angles. Sometimes the width of the vehicle can work against you. And these ford F150's are wide......

Cheers all.